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Title: The tool thread
Post by: Bellend on 08 March 2013, 12:42
Can't find one I'm sure was made before. Could be a good idea.

Cannot believe the price of this set:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bahco-S240-Socket-Set-24-Piece-1-2in-Drive-/390534827272?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item5aedb08d08

Such an awesome socket set. Actually prefer it over my Snap-On ratchet that rusted due to moisture in a damp garage (poor storage admittedly after moving) where a £25 motor factors jobbie was fine!

What does everyone think of Teng? I've have loads of tools nicked all my Snap-On gear gone. I do want more Snap-On screwdrivers though so will need to find a dealer.

However there is a kit:
http://www.teng.co.uk/tcmm1001n-tengtools-1001-piece-mega-master-tool-kit_1324_pd.asp

Then just getting a few other bits.

Need a decent lightweight jack if anyone has any solutions. My three tonne trolley Sealey pro crap is just way too heavy to be lifting out the vehicle all the time. Need something low and lightweight but fairly capable of lifting vans if possible.

Cheers!

What tools have you got?
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: scarr89 on 08 March 2013, 12:47
Really cheap set above! Cracking deal. Bacho are ace use them at work all the time.

My fav, of which I own, are the halfords professional. The easy push button for sockets on and off is just the best.  :smiley:
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: murraymint on 08 March 2013, 12:50
My sister's boyfriend is a complete tool. ....... O wrong type sorry  :laugh:

If your looking for pannel beating tools I recommend Kennedy planishing hammers. I use them everyday and just as good as strap on but a fraction of the price.

I have some pro-mech stuff. It's supper cheap and I've had it for about a year and still going strong

http://www.promechracing.com/RED-PRO---Professional-Tools/c-1-107/
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Bellend on 08 March 2013, 13:17
Thinking of the 170 kit tbh. Even just to chuck in the car and can then use on jobs i one suddenly comes up. Call out to put a mirror on a van Monday for example, had I had that in the car could have gone straight to the job.

Those Pro-Mech look a decent price!
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: VW BUSH on 08 March 2013, 13:28
Stahlwille all day long
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: danny_p on 08 March 2013, 17:38
sealy stuff is sh!t.

but more inportantly STOP LOOSEING TOOLS if you suspect there are pikeys in your presance old mobile phones or GPS dog trackers are usefull.  ont eh plastic boxed tool kits you can usally wedge them between the inner an outer nicely out of sight.

if it goes missing   GPS it,  go to where the GPS says it is  and ring it,  if it's in someone elses toolbox or car and it's locked i just ask them if they have it when they say no out comes the plasma cutter.  tools stop going missing very quickly. 

Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: murraymint on 08 March 2013, 17:57
Thinking of the 170 kit tbh. Even just to chuck in the car and can then use on jobs i one suddenly comes up. Call out to put a mirror on a van Monday for example, had I had that in the car could have gone straight to the job.

Those Pro-Mech look a decent price!

Yh I've got the spanners, ratchet spanners and socket sets. Must say they are very good quality for the price. 
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Thom89 on 08 March 2013, 19:00
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQOtt960NBrRTaHXkPqBthYcd_WPk87ruRmUEx7ZbhWYPv8MB_xZw)

Thom
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Bellend on 12 March 2013, 16:14
Ended up just getting the Halfords kits after being called out to sort a wiper linkage and didn't have my tool kit.  :rolleyes:

Decided to just get it and leave it in the boot. £118 lighter I walked out. The toolkit isn't light though.

Thought I'd do a mini review and take photos of everything. Yes it's all listed on the Halfords website but this is so much easier to see and understand.

First impressions you get a cardboard box that's pretty heavy and covered in a clear plastic wrap. A quick careful cutting with a Stanley knife along one edge of the wrap (so it could be taken back if I change my mind :whistle:) and it's out.

First impressions of the plastic box, pretty sturdy! Nice soft rubber grip. Go to open it up and cheap plastic clips are holding it shut. I'll see how long these last, not holding my breath though!
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_112000_zps7f84f7e9.jpg)

Open it up and it's rammed full of tools!  :cool:
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111057_zpsad369316.jpg)

In terms of ratchets, bars and extentions you get what you see here:
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111244_zpsebc7b58a.jpg)

1/2" drive
- Ratchet 45 tooth 8 degree's motion
- Universal joint
- Short wobble extention 125mm

3/8th drive
- Ratchet 45 tooth 8 degree's motion
- Short breaker bar
- Medium length wobble extension 150mm
- Short wobble extention 75mm
- Universal joint

1/4" drive
- Ratchet 45 tooth 8 degree's motion 140mm length
- Screwdriver type handle attatchment with 1/4" connection on top
- Medium length wobble extention 100mm

All feel pretty nice in the hand. I always find they are slightly too thin and do hurt a little when undoing really tight nuts and bolts with them.

The ratchets move freely enough but the ratchet mechanism feels quite snappy when it moves. I think I'll be packing mine with grease to aid that and also under the advice that they will last longer.

The breaker bar is fine it just seems a bit pointless being that short. I'm sure the ratchet will take all the abuse possible by hand.

You also get three adaptors: 1/4" to 3/8", 3/8" to 1/4" & 3/8" to 1/2"
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111723_zps04699f50.jpg)

Onto sockets.

SAE, all 12 point:
3/8": 3/8, 7/16, 1/2, 9/16, 5/8, 11/16, 3/4, 13/16, 7/8
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111320_zpsa2c17c1f.jpg)

1/2": 15/16, 1, 1-1/16, 1-1/4
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111328_zps085ad33e.jpg)

6 point SAE 1/4" drive: 15/16, 1, 1-1/16, 1-1/4
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111707_zpse7e93126.jpg)

Metric 12 point normal length
3/8": 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19mm
1/2": 20, 21, 22, 24, 27, 30, 32mm
Impact, all 1/2 6 point: 13, 14, 15, 17, 19, 21, 23mm
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111302_zps310c0ff3.jpg)

1/4": 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13mm
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111707_zpse7e93126.jpg)

1/4" long sockets, 6 point: 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9mm
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111447_zps3cdd9ff5.jpg)

3/8" long sockets, 12 point: 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19mm
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111504_zpsf3ac6b08.jpg)

1/2" long sockets, 6 point: 20, 21, 22, 24mm
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111556_zps7f4464f9.jpg)

Also the normal 10 and 14mm spark plug sockets in 3/8" drive with the rubber plug grip:
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111532_zps91474ff0.jpg)

E-Torx sockets
3/8": 8, 10, 11, 12, 14mm
1/2": 16, 18, 20mm
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111738_zpsda9e5ab8.jpg)

You get some bit sockets, all 3/8":
Slotted: 4, 5.5, 6.5
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111632_zps638043e2.jpg)

Philips: 1, 2, 3:
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111639_zpsbba368b3.jpg)

Hex: 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10mm
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111648_zpsa01eb331.jpg)

Torx: TX-10, TX-20, TX-30, TX-40, TX-45, TX-50, TX-55, TX-60
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111655_zpsd7f86c94.jpg)

30 piece screwdriver bit and a 1/4" square adaptor: Slotted 4, 5.5, 6.5, Hex 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, Phillips 1, 2, 3, Pozi 1, 2, 3,Torx T10, 15, 20, 25, 27, 30, 40, Tamper Torx T10, 15, 20, 25, 27, 30, 40
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111826_zps5262eab6.jpg)

All bits are sharp and well made. All the security Torx bits have been made central which is a big thing to me!

Ratchet spanners, these are brilliant. Really nice feel and ratchet is good. Feel better than a Bluepoint set I had before. Only thing I dislike is there is a decent range but things like 9, 11 and 18mm are missing. 9 I can't remember using but 11 and 18mm are used quite frequently. Most clutches I've come across have 11mm bolts.
8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19mm
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111339_zps6a74c21b.jpg)
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111350_zpsac773106.jpg)

Lastly, a set of allen keys tucked neatly away: 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 5.5, 6, 8, 10mm
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t265/JoshoRey/20130312_111607_zpsc1b2eacd.jpg)


Pros:
- Amazing price
- Good range and awesome to chuck in the boot. Probably pretty much every tool an average joe would need in terms of socketry all bar a big breaker bar.
- Lifetime warrenty
- Ratchet spanners are amazing

Cons:
- Certain size bits missing such as 9, 11 and 18mm spanners.
- Ratchets in the bars although tight feel a bit too harsh
- Not much in terms of extensions. No small 1/4" extention and no longer 1/2 extention
- Box clips feel super cheap.

All in all a great set and reccomended. My only vice is it only comes in 12 point. Although 12 point fits all I prefer 6 point unless 12 poin is neccesary. Luckily I have other sets which are 6 point.

With a breaker bar and a decent set of extensions and a few other bits this would probably be all an average person would need alongside jacks, stands and screwdrivers.

Deffo reccomended at that price though!
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Sam on 12 March 2013, 16:36
You will need a set of adapter bits too if you only use that kit. Other than that it is pretty flippin awesome, re built my golf with them with no issues
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: scarr89 on 12 March 2013, 18:08
Good right up.

Your kit seems far more advanced than mine which was bought 2 years ago.

All ratchet spanner ends now is ace! I may sell mine and get a new one  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 16 March 2013, 11:17
Can you do me a favour and measure the length of all the ratchet spanners?

I'm looking at replacing all the spanners in my kit with ratchet versions but not sure if they'd fit in the box...
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: cняis on 16 March 2013, 19:53
This is awesome, bought one through work for about £15 as I only had 3/8"

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ratchet-Wrench-Set-4-Piece-1-2-Drive-Sealey-AK6623-/120739415060?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item1c1ca14414

If using the longest handle extension its ideal for removing carrier bolts, shock absorber lower bolts which rust on etc. as it's like having a breaker bar.

Plus it makes an awesome sound when you remove a handle extension, sounds like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsSWQBr_R9M  :cool: :cool: :cool: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Bellend on 16 March 2013, 22:18
Can you do me a favour and measure the length of all the ratchet spanners?

I'm looking at replacing all the spanners in my kit with ratchet versions but not sure if they'd fit in the box...

Will do mate was gonna do it today but only just got in from work!
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Gavv8 on 16 March 2013, 22:18
The halfords professional stuff is very nice, i bought a 1/4" set to replace stuff missing from my collection and some ratchet spanners that feel like real quality.
My main 1/2" ratchet is a halfords one that i bought 20 years ago and it still works fine.
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Rich2086 on 17 March 2013, 20:45
Very useful is that halfrauds kit to be fair. For the money you cant go wrong imo
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Ashy on 20 March 2013, 08:14
Halfords Ratchet spanners are great. Especially for the money.

I tend to use this bad boy more than anything in my toolbox. Really great action and will undo most things a breaker bar is needed for.

Facom S.154
(http://www.drewsdirect.com/productimages/fullsize/F3452BC5-ED1C-4CD2-BD77-86E28222BB9D.jpg)

Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Bellend on 22 March 2013, 17:32
Update. Box clip snapped in my hand for no good reason. Box is also pretty crap at holding sockets which is so annoying.  Can see why so many people on eBay flog the box tbh.

Wondering if I can blag one in Halfords but I doubt it somehow.

One torx bit snapped undoing an ABS sensor, little bit in the box did it though. One of the big Torx bits twisted with me using it by hand on the tiny breaker bar. Going back to swap these. Will have to get a decent chest and upgrade. Still hoping to get this Twng set.
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Bellend on 25 March 2013, 15:41
So yeah the Torx bits are pretty crap. Need to find a local Snap-On dealer to restock my stolen tools really.

Went back to Halfords and new box on the way which is good as I just accidentally snapped another clip by kicking it and two Torx bits.

Sending it all to my house as not in stock. Cracking service!

Box is just not up to a pro level of work IMO.
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: scarr89 on 25 March 2013, 22:18
I think with some of those torx bits you will always get failures, no matter what the brand. I mean surely HF make them just as good as Snapon? They are so small and fragile.

I always use WD before attacking ANY bolt these days!  :whistle:
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Bellend on 25 March 2013, 23:09
They aren't small Torx.

T50 totally twisted with a SMALL bar, same length as the ratchet by hand and I'm no Superman.

Had to get a cheapy Laser small set for a tenner at a local bike shop today as was right next to a job. Did the job perfect.

Definitely need a BIG tool spend up very soon!

NEED some 3/4 or inch drive stuff. Any advantage over either or is it a price thing? Just wondering if there's any point in going 3/4" or straight to inch.

Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: scarr89 on 26 March 2013, 09:48
Why would you need inch drives? Or Even 3/4? Half does me fine, can fit large enough sockets on it for a car...
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Steve_PD on 26 March 2013, 11:31
Been using 1" 1/2 drive impact guns here on 85mm nuts which need to be torqued to 10000NMs!!! Thankfully not by hand
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Bellend on 26 March 2013, 11:37
Why would you need inch drives? Or Even 3/4? Half does me fine, can fit large enough sockets on it for a car...

Vans and small trucks.

1/2" just doesn't cut it. Bars snapping etc.

10,000? Flipping heck. What's that on, rigs?
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: scarr89 on 26 March 2013, 11:39
^^ 1/2 will do me then, don't think I'll ever work on a small truck!  :smiley:

Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Steve_PD on 26 March 2013, 12:04
Mining equipment. Using a hydraulic rachet and take the pressure to 14000psi.
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Bellend on 26 March 2013, 12:11
^^ 1/2 will do me then, don't think I'll ever work on a small truck!  :smiley:



Should do. Although saying that sometimes on big hubs etc we needed 3/4" at the garage....

Wow that's insane! I'd imagine that sort of pressure would go through a lot of things aimed at a small point!
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Bellend on 26 March 2013, 18:36
One torx showed up in the post today. Will give it til Friday to see where the other one an the box are.
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: antogoof on 27 March 2013, 11:54
i have a set of the hafords ratchet spanners, they work really well but i lost the 13mm one so i went and bought a beta one to replace it.

its got the little handle to swap directions and its crap i mean really crap.

keeps seizing up needs freeing constantly, the halfords ones never have an issue, they seem to be pretty bullet proof, and they are 5 years old now.

the halfords set 10mm to 19mm was £36ish on sale and the beta on its own was £17.

i wouldnt buy another beta. :smiley:

Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Bellend on 10 April 2013, 21:24
Got these (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cax-6tbc-6-ton-axle-stands).

They're tall and 6 tonne a pair.

Never used ratchet type. I won't update if they're crap and a 2.5 tonne van lands on me. :grin:
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: SI74 on 11 April 2013, 09:56
I have them ^^^^ and there grand. Never had any problems.
Title: Re: The tool thread
Post by: Bellend on 11 April 2013, 11:15
Nice and tall which is what I like for vans! Gotta put a clutch in a huge Iveco Daily and these will give loads of room!