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Title: alloy wheel repair
Post by: rich1977 on 04 March 2013, 23:07
bought some new rims at weekend for the satt and was just begining to sort refurb out and came across a nasty crack and a flat spot.

anyone know if this can be repaired its on a 10j 18" rim if that makes any difference.

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Title: Re: alloy wheel repair
Post by: Screech16v on 05 March 2013, 22:29
Yes mate that can be repaired no problem by a competent tig welder I would think.
Title: Re: alloy wheel repair
Post by: murraymint on 05 March 2013, 22:39
Yh, as long as its a good grade of alloy, should weld up fine,
Title: Re: alloy wheel repair
Post by: Wayne on 05 March 2013, 23:33
Whilst it could be repaired, would you feel safe in using it, better off in the scrap skip tbh.
Title: Re: alloy wheel repair
Post by: boneybradley on 06 March 2013, 15:23
Whilst it could be repaired, would you feel safe in using it, better off in the scrap skip tbh.

I disagree, as long as it's repaired properly then there's no issue with safety. it's not a job for a back street welder for sure but most good alloy refurbers will be used to repairs like this
Title: Re: alloy wheel repair
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 March 2013, 15:33
Whilst it could be repaired, would you feel safe in using it, better off in the scrap skip tbh.

If decent welding affected safety then nobody would ever fix anything on car.  In the right hands that could be put back to good as a new.
Title: Re: alloy wheel repair
Post by: danny_p on 10 March 2013, 20:02
can't see the pictures

if it's magnesium alloy  forget it,  whilst it's weldable the filler wire is  F :shocked: :shocked:king expensive  unless they have been useing the required grade the pack of filler will cost more than the wheel is worth. 

  if it is a metal fategue issue it should not under any circumstances be repaired and the wheel condemed and the others examined very closely with dye penatrant to be sure they are sound,  if inpact damage it can be repaired  dye penatarnt is usefull to highlight the unseen damage,  it supriseing how far a small crack can actualy run

if it's alu  4043 filler should do just fine.  but because it's a wheel likely find that it would have to be a cash job.

also if it's a LARGE repair the wheel may need re heat treating usally make it uneconomic 
Title: Re: alloy wheel repair
Post by: VW BUSH on 10 March 2013, 20:21
can't see the pictures

if it's magnesium alloy  forget it,  whilst it's weldable the filler wire is  F :shocked: :shocked:king expensive  unless they have been useing the required grade the pack of filler will cost more than the wheel is worth. 

  if it is a metal fategue issue it should not under any circumstances be repaired and the wheel condemed and the others examined very closely with dye penatrant to be sure they are sound,  if inpact damage it can be repaired  dye penatarnt is usefull to highlight the unseen damage,  it supriseing how far a small crack can actualy run

if it's alu  4043 filler should do just fine.  but because it's a wheel likely find that it would have to be a cash job.

also if it's a LARGE repair the wheel may need re heat treating usally make it uneconomic

On the money there, I would not run that wheel again its gone right through the lip and into the inner section, any repair will put a weak spot in the fabric of the casting so why take a chance?
Title: Re: alloy wheel repair
Post by: danny_p on 12 March 2013, 01:08
i would reccomend just buying another wheel by the sound of it.

whilst not inpossible to repair  sounds like quite a lot o weld to put down so will potentaly destroy the existing heat treatment to a large section of the wheel make sudden catastropic failure a very real possoblity ( aluminium alloys are bastards for metal fatiuge )  also not a goo idea to lay that much filler down when the exact make up  metal is unknow. 

by the time youve worked out exctly what alloy your welding to, found a sutable filler, re machened and re heat treated the whole wheel it would have been cheeper to buy a new set of wheels.
Title: Re: alloy wheel repair
Post by: rich1977 on 14 March 2013, 21:14
There off on ebay now to recoup some of the cash ive lost on them is a sahme as where nice wheels pukka merc staggered clks multi spokes but had been run on strecthed tyres by previous owner I have been qouted 60 for repair by wheel specailists but dony think I want to risk it tbh
Title: Re: alloy wheel repair
Post by: Mr Blue on 15 March 2013, 12:24
You can weld that, £60 is about right. Welded up my Porsche bbs and still had to check if they ran true on a lathe. Too much work. Good move to sell them but warn the buyer and all :)
Title: Re: alloy wheel repair
Post by: mark@vorny.co.uk on 30 April 2013, 22:37
I ran welded wheels for 60k miles on a BMW. Their 19's crack regularly and fed up of replacements I used to get them welded. The guy cuts out the stressed area and repairs. Never had an issue around any of the repairs.

Paul at 1st Class in Lichfield used to do mine.
Title: Re: alloy wheel repair
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 01 May 2013, 12:32
Could be repaired by the right guy as stated. and ide expect to be paying around what you were quoted but as said by wayne, even though i know they could be repaired and be fine for use, i wouldnt feel safe using them.

when you bought them were you told there was a crack? if not then take them off ebay and get a refund off the guy who sold you them