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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Godzilla on 24 February 2013, 21:32
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Well I have had her just over 1 week and the clutch is starting to pack up! She is originally a VR6 but now has a 1.8 20v Turbo engine from an Audi TT. What clutch do I need, difficult to fit and how expensive?
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Vr6. not a difficult job but not for beginners
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All of a sudden I love everyone on here who lives close to Milton Keynes and can fit VR6 clutch's :kiss: :grin:
I will call around some car part places and get some prices in the morning.
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It might not be the vr6 clutch, lot of options depending on what gearbox was used.
Also pay extra and get a sachs or luk kit.
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Did u check this car properly before u bought it
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Did u check this car properly before u bought it
To be very honest with you mate.....No :sad:
Since owning I have come across a number of things that are not so good. My local mechanic who has specialist with my Cosworth and has a large garage that he owns said he would have failed my car on a number of things for the MOT, yet it came with 12 months MOT? But instead of getting the hassle and that the MOT was done nearly 4 weeks ago via the previous owner I have just bitten the bullet and put my own cash in to her to get her looking how I have done with all my Golf GTI's I have owned over the years..... well back to 1992 when I first bought a MK1 Golf GTI, so some years I have owned them. Bit annoyed though that I was sold the car from the false advert. Without sounding big headed but people who know me round my way as in doing doorwork, Kickboxing, Bodybuilding, in construction.....although we specialise in demolition when needed so I am rather strong and not one to be upset, yet all the members I have met off here over the years know I am a big softy and always see the good in people and help out for free as much as I can......I saw the good in the seller, obviously I was wrong :sad: It would be so nice if people were more honest. Anyway.....Sorry for slight life story and rant!
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I feel for you my friend. Yes the owner should have been honest in the sale but in todays world its just
not like that. Thing is, it's quite easy if you know someone who does MOT for them just to stamp it all
up. Makes sense if the people you know and trust are saying it would fail MOT for various reasons. Good
thing about this site is that there are plenty of people who know what they are talking about and will help
you with your car issues (I am not really mechanically minded esp with your set up) Hope you get it sorted :smiley:
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I feel for you my friend. Yes the owner should have been honest in the sale but in todays world its just
not like that. Thing is, it's quite easy if you know someone who does MOT for them just to stamp it all
up. Makes sense if the people you know and trust are saying it would fail MOT for various reasons. Good
thing about this site is that there are plenty of people who know what they are talking about and will help
you with your car issues (I am not really mechanically minded esp with your set up) Hope you get it sorted :smiley:
Thank you mate :smiley:
Indeed she has become my project! I will get her back to her former glory. I should take some progress pictures really.
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As Wayne said, all depends on the gearbox used in the conversion and defo go for a branded one rather than the cheapie ones.
If you are a novice I would say don't bother trying but if you like to get your hands dirty then go for it, will need 2 of you at least and an engine hoist would be beneficial.
Good luck pal, shame about the dodgy MOT, I know of places that will give you one without even looking at yr car :shocked:
I value mine and others lives too much so No thank you!!!!
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As Wayne said, all depends on the gearbox used in the conversion and defo go for a branded one rather than the cheapie ones.
If you are a novice I would say don't bother trying but if you like to get your hands dirty then go for it, will need 2 of you at least and an engine hoist would be beneficial.
Good luck pal, shame about the dodgy MOT, I know of places that will give you one without even looking at yr car :shocked:
I value mine and others lives too much so No thank you!!!!
Exactly bud......I have my 2 girls in the car with me the majority of the time. One is 14 and the other is 4. If something bad happened and it was due to the dodgy MOT then the person who sold me the car and the MOT tester would be eating Hospital food for a long time!
How do I find out what gearbox it has bud?
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Its going to be an 02A or an 02J gearbox, the code you need is located on the top of the gearbox near the shifter tower, If you are looking down on top of the gearbox from the front of the car, it is about an inch to the left from the shifter tower, will be 3 letters and a few numbers, just the 3 letters you need really. If its a mk3 02A box they have used, it will be a single mass flywheel and the Sacks or LUK VR6 clutch will be the one to buy.
However, if they have used the TT box, it could be an 02J with dual mass flywheel and you will ned to buy the clutch to suit :wink:
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Is the previous owner not on here? What does he have to say about all of this :shocked:
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Sold as seen.
Not the sellers fault.
Godzilla has admitted he didn't look properly
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Its going to be an 02A or an 02J gearbox, the code you need is located on the top of the gearbox near the shifter tower, If you are looking down on top of the gearbox from the front of the car, it is about an inch to the left from the shifter tower, will be 3 letters and a few numbers, just the 3 letters you need really. If its a mk3 02A box they have used, it will be a single mass flywheel and the Sacks or LUK VR6 clutch will be the one to buy.
However, if they have used the TT box, it could be an 02J with dual mass flywheel and you will ned to buy the clutch to suit :wink:
Thank you mate
Just been outside and with some rag I managed to reveal the code.......
DPA 28 086
Then on the other part is this...... 357 721 261
Cant see any 02A or anything like that?
In the service book it says.....Gearbox code, Paint number, Interior Equipment, Engine output/code which are as follows as I don't know what mean what or though I know the paint code from this lot......
CCM LC9Z-------XH 128KW AAA (The LC9Z is paint and I am 99% sure the AAA is a VR6 engine code) Thus leaving the CCM which must be the gearbox code? This is from the original VR6 engine though, so they may have changed the gearbox but no receipts for it, just receipts for an Audi TT engine.
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Sold as seen.
Not the sellers fault.
Godzilla has admitted he didn't look properly
Yeah I know, just a shame hey
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DPA is a mk3 valver box matey so go get yourself a Sachs or LUK VR6 clutch kit, the VR clutches are a direct fit to these boxes and are stronger than the valver ones...... incase you were wondering why you would buy a VR6 clutch for a 2.0 16v gearbox on a 1.8T engine lol
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Sold as seen.
Not the sellers fault.
Godzilla has admitted he didn't look properly
Yeah I know, just a shame hey
Big thanks benvictors.....You really know your stuff :smiley: Wow, so a bit of mix-match with engine, gearbox and car, lol! A Valver clutch must be pants for a mapped/modified 1.8 20vt engine......Will get a VR clutch kit, should keep things in order :grin:
The lad who sold it is on here, nice guy. He only has a few posts and that was just to sell his car.
Indeed it is a shame but as long as nothing is dangerous on the car that could put my daughters at risk then all good! She is now a project for me and I will bring her to her former glory! Got so much planned, keeping me busy as got no work for 11 days till our new contract starts which is taking down a load of old houses up north, so until then she is getting a lot done!
Jobs done already......
Carpet out, floor rubbed down due to rust, plated, hammerite. Full service using OE parts and NGK plugs suggested by Brad. Complete dash out, all parts cleaned and all bulbs etc replaced. Imob' re-wired due to very bad wiring. Door cards off and greased window runners and Hammerite coated inside the doors for that extra protection against any rust, re-connected some broken wires in door via soldering and heat wrap, carpet fully steam cleaned, full cloth interior from Big Gun in mint condition with no bolster wear, (no bolster wear and Big Gun is 6ft 7 and 22st!) Also the legend 'Shady Pioneer' has helped with a few bits and bobs so she is getting there!
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Nice 1 fella, sounds like she is coming together :wink:
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Shouldn't take that much to sort all your niggles out with all the help from us lot you will soon have it ship shape,i got my LUK vr6 clutch off ebay ,it was only £96 delivered which I thought was a good price.
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Just go carparts4less or Eurocarparts.
Euro stuff is fine as long as it's branded, I use them for my jobs. Full cambelt kits are about £20-£30 for DECENT Contitech etc ones.
Agree with all that Ben says all except needing two people for the gearbox. I usually work alone and do loads of gearbox/clutch jobs by myself. I am pretty used to it though.
You might find as I have done in the past that while you've undone one sides mounts (i.e gearbox) it's easy to just remove all of them providing there's enough slack.
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As Wayne said, all depends on the gearbox used in the conversion and defo go for a branded one rather than the cheapie ones.
If you are a novice I would say don't bother trying but if you like to get your hands dirty then go for it, will need 2 of you at least and an engine hoist would be beneficial.
Good luck pal, shame about the dodgy MOT, I know of places that will give you one without even looking at yr car :shocked:
I value mine and others lives too much so No thank you!!!!
Exactly bud......I have my 2 girls in the car with me the majority of the time. One is 14 and the other is 4. If something bad happened and it was due to the dodgy MOT then the person who sold me the car and the MOT tester would be eating Hospital food for a long time!
How do I find out what gearbox it has bud?
a 500 quid mot first of all isn't dodgy second of all the car has got half as many problems as the one you p/x me in which cuts out when you put your foot to the floor really good in the outside lane with the glow plug warning light on. not to mention the slow puncture it had and the fact the spare tyre also had a puncture that was a good way to miss a mornings work couldn't even change the wheel.
door man to door man I don't think id be eating hospital food :shocked:
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We weren't having a dig at you mate, in fact Godzilla says nothing but good things about you.
The fact remains that a second MOT tester has said that there were a few things wrong with the car that should't have been passed, that is all :smiley:
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maybe so emission it will fail but as I spend a hell of a lot of money at my mechanic he turned a blind eye to this the advert also clearly stated that I booked time off work for people to come for viewings and test drives so im not really sure what else im meant to do the conversion alone was 3.25k with out the map exhaust ect so could be broken for a hell of a lot more then what was paid for it however I liked the car to much to do this so sold it on at effectly a loss to myself as well as retaxing it for 6 month at my own expense when most people leave that to the new buyer :whistle:
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We weren't having a dig at you mate, in fact Godzilla says nothing but good things about you.
The fact remains that a second MOT tester has said that there were a few things wrong with the car that should't have been passed, that is all :smiley:
Thank you mate.
Jamie......I have been to 2 MOT testers now and they said I should contact VOSA, but as said, she is my project now! Also for having a go at you, not true mate, just stated if anything bad was wrong with the car that ended up with my daughters being injured.....Front seats for example flew off the runners, Shady on here one of the Mods & Big Gun could not believe it, but that is all sorted now. Also the original engine that was mapped from 150-210BHP on paper must have been on a different engine, the engine in mine is 190BHP as standard. Getting her RR'd on Friday :smiley:
As stated.....Sold as seen either way so we shall leave it at that.
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Jamie......I have been to 2 MOT testers now and they said I should contact VOSA, but as said, she is my project now! Also for having a go at you, not true mate, just stated if anything bad was wrong with the car that ended up with my daughters being injured.....Front seats for example flew off the runners.
As stated.....Sold as seen either way so we shall leave it at that.
Not really the point, if the mot is not right I would take action, someone might not be so lucky in the future.
Dodgy mot's need to be stopped.
Also the original engine that was mapped from 150-210BHP on paper must have been on a different engine, the engine in mine is 190BHP as standard. Getting her RR'd on Friday :smiley:
Yours I believe is a BVR which was the 180bhp with a different map to 187bhp so will be interesting to see what it is running.
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Without having a go, the seats not being on the runners properly (missing the front pin/clip to stop it going too far back when being adjusted and the two clips to keep them relatively stable in the runners) was just a complete shock. The seats do wobble a tad, but they wobbled like mad and weren't secure.
All cars have their issues but there were some things that could of easily been rectified before selling the car.
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Wayne...... A trip down to Audi's yesterday and speaking to one of the Tech's who has worked there 14 years said it was the rare BVR from a 2007 Audi TT which comes out of the box with 190BHP and has a K03-S Turbo. But indeed you are correct with saying the majority were 180BHP......Interesting to see what she makes on Friday on the rollers!
Shady.......It was rather interesting wasn't it bud! All fixed with new pins and guides now :smiley: The MOT tester ordered me some in when I took my car down to have floor bits plated. Now all covered in Hammerite paint so no worries there!
Mat came over last night and swapped boot lids over as could not open the boot from outside but could from the inside.....Rather tricky to open when my boot was full of tools, especially the road drill.....nearly 60kg it weighs! So now with my new boot I can open it from the outside! So all tools fit nice and snug in there and I can get my 2 bags, 18 mitts, 18 pads, ropes etc for Kickboxing in there with just the tops of the rear seats down, loads of room so very happy!!
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What Rollers you going on mate?
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What Rollers you going on mate?
Superchips Len! They have one of the most accurate rollers in the UK as they set up very high performance cars, so should get a nice true reading. They are expensive but worth it. They have set up many of my cars over the years.....I remember them RR my Astra GTE 16v so that must have been 1996.....Showing my age now, passed my test in 1991, the great days of rave when it was just rising at warehouses etc, the memories are flooding back......Getting a bit carried away here considering your question mate :grin:
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[A trip down to Audi's yesterday and speaking to one of the Tech's who has worked there 14 years said it was the rare BVR from a 2007 Audi TT which comes out of the box with 190BHP and has a K03-S Turbo. But indeed you are correct with saying the majority were 180BHP......Interesting to see what she makes on Friday on the rollers!
The point I was trying to make was that from what I have read the only difference between the 180 and 190 is the map so it will be interesting to see if it makes anymore than a mapped 180.
180bhp also has a KO3s btw
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bring the car to Coventry and ill give you that spare light ill be more then happy to take it to volks as at 500 quid is not a joke of a bill as for the seat that was removed when the car was welded so also something I would be more then happy to have a word about ive spent over 3k in 2 years at the garage ( with my various cars and my old mans) so they are usually more then happy to deal with any problems with out costing you any money on top.
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Jamie......I have been to 2 MOT testers now and they said I should contact VOSA, but as said, she is my project now! Also for having a go at you, not true mate, just stated if anything bad was wrong with the car that ended up with my daughters being injured.....Front seats for example flew off the runners.
As stated.....Sold as seen either way so we shall leave it at that.
Not really the point, if the mot is not right I would take action, someone might not be so lucky in the future.
Dodgy mot's need to be stopped.
Also the original engine that was mapped from 150-210BHP on paper must have been on a different engine, the engine in mine is 190BHP as standard. Getting her RR'd on Friday :smiley:
Yours I believe is a BVR which was the 180bhp with a different map to 187bhp so will be interesting to see what it is running.
I fully agree its not on
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bring the car to Coventry and ill give you that spare light ill be more then happy to take it to volks as at 500 quid is not a joke of a bill as for the seat that was removed when the car was welded so also something I would be more then happy to have a word about ive spent over 3k in 2 years at the garage ( with my various cars and my old mans) so they are usually more then happy to deal with any problems with out costing you any money on top.
Lovely. Did text you but no reply. PM me your address.
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Well she is back after having a tough day on the rollers with a few runs. They all came out the same but the guy doing it wanted to make sure everything was fine engine wise.
She made a healthy 211.4 BHP :smiley:
So with power to weight ratio that is not bad at all. Obviously not Scooby or Evo performance but better than Type R's, 182's, VTS's etc.......My friend has an Evo 6, lovely car which is making 284BHP, it will kill my car as in performance but he is constantly filling it up and parts are just stupid prices. Mine is doing very well fuel wise, better than my VR6......So very happy today. All the little niggles are sorted and she is going in for a little treat next week! But right now she is in my mates garage having a Toad alarm fitted as with my tools in there and the engine alone, well there is a fair few quid! So I am having the top Toad alarm fitted for a tad over half the price it would normally cost.......Happy days :smiley: