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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: popey on 23 February 2013, 04:36
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Over the next week I plan to step up my hunt for a GT.
I have been offered a 2004 GT TDI, full service history (at a local garage who will vouch for the car), lots of bills and past MOT's etc. The only issue is the 120k miles on the clock, however the £3500 asking price is tempting. OR do I spend a £5-6k and get newer with less miles.
Will £5-6k buy me a decent GT TDI?
What should I look out for?
Is the DSG any good and does it effect fuel economy?
Thanks guys :)
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Has the turbo ever been replaced? 140's are known for their weak turbos
DSG - make sure its had all its services done; every 40k the oil and filter should be changed so at that mileage it should have had at least 3.
Is it smooth between gears; any jerkiness could spell problems
DSG should help with fuel economy as it will always be in the highest gear possible; certainly my mate with a DSG 170 was returning better economy than my manual 170. For me though there is a lack of involvement; DSG is too damn smooth for its own good :undecided:
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Thanks for the response, is it all 140's or just the very early ones?
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Thanks for the response, is it all 140's or just the very early ones?
I used to think it was the early ones but I do know of some later ones popping their turbines.........
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Im thinking of saving up a bit extra, I'm thinking for 7k we should get a GT TDI with lower miles, maybe with leather and heated seats too :).
Thanks for your help so far :)
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7k will get a lot better spec and a lot lower miles. What was the price in the other?
Ignore that just re-read OP. the later ones also look better IMO
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Found this one, bit of an in-between, not bad miles not top end price?
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/vw-golf-gt-tdi-dsg/1010506302
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Found this one, bit of an in-between, not bad miles not top end price?
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/vw-golf-gt-tdi-dsg/1010506302
Advertiser is wrong about the DSG not needing another service for 75K. As i stated its every 40K so it should have had 2 by now
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I spotted that 2, looks a nice car but I don't fancy a repair bill for s DSG box :(.
Im off to the auctions on Tuesday with a guy in the trade, see what this throws up.
Worst case scenario and a turbo goes bang, what are we looking at in terms of a repair bill?
(Thanks again)
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New turbo is circa £500 plus fitting; I believe the new one's are a little stronger.......
I had a customer who's A3 with the same engine at just 40K popped its turbo not long after I mapped it.....that was 25,000 miles ago now and the new one is running just fine :smiley:
Listen for any police siren type noises when driving. You should get a bit of turbo whistle but if its excessive leave well alone as it won't be long for this world
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I'm almost certain that the dsg gearbox makes fuel consumption worse, even on the latest golfs, i've no idea why but some of it may be down to weight.
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Got to see the car tonight tonight, just to recap here is the info on the car:
2004 (54) 2.0 GT TDI (140, 5 Doors), 120,000 miles, 1 lady owner, Full Service History.
Key points
> The service history is extensive and all done at the same local garage who will confirm the car was well looked after, every bill for ever service is with the car (cambelt done at 86k).
> The car is great condition inside and out apart from a slight dint on passenger door.
The car was revved hard and produced no back smoke however there was a slight whistle from the turbo, nothing that stood out as such but I'm paranoid so really listened for it.
Summing up, all this for £3500
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I'm almost certain that the dsg gearbox makes fuel consumption worse, even on the latest golfs, i've no idea why but some of it may be down to weight.
i'd agree. 40bhp extra and a hellava difference on the consumption particularly on the town trips.
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Did you drive it?
You need to get the engine under load to determine if its working ok :smiley:
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I will be doing on Tuesday :)
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I will be doing on Tuesday :)
Cool :smiley: sounds like it could be a bit of a bargain :cool:
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.... OR do i bankrupt myself and get...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121067723970?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
or
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201302195407731/sort/locasc/usedcars/fuel-type/diesel/price-to/7000/model/golf/make/volkswagen/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/postcode/fy44pf/keywords/170/page/4?logcode=p
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If you want a 170 make sure the injector recall has been done :wink:
Its the first question you need to be asking followed by 'have you ever had problems with the DPF?'
Other than that they are pretty bullet proof :smiley: mine has done over 60k, 30k of which has been remapped :cool: All still running standard equipment :wink:
Ive had the injectors replaced and last year I removed the DPF but that was more for performance rather than I was having problems
The 140 is more economical though
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To be honest Im missing my TT already, and I think a 170 or 140 (newer low miles) would be a car I would enjoy owning rather then just a means of getting from A to B.
I have always liked golfs, the facelift mk5 is probably my favourite, however I did notice cheap GTI front bumper kits on the bay.
So many options, still its a nice position to be I guess :)
I have friends in south wales to so you might get to re map the bad boy!! :)
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If you miss your TT then a 170 would help fill the void
Map takes them to approx 200bhp if you have what I had on my car prior to DPF removal
99% get my standard map which is good for 195bhp :wink:
Good luck with the search :afro: what i would recommend is test drive a few examples to get a feel of what the car can do and ensure you pick a mechanically sound one :smiley:
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Went to see another car today at a local garage,
2004 140 GT TDI
2 owners (Demo and last owner did the servicing him self)
95,000 Miles
Just had cambelt and water pump by local VW specialists
£3600
Not had a drive but even on revs from stationary there was less turbo noise than on other cars I've seen, it also started on the button from cold (just had no battery).
Bad news is bonnet is a bit tatty, scratches and stone chips.
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Wouldn't worry about the bonnet at that price; as long its mechanically sound :wink:
You need to start driving these things mind; you might not even like them :laugh: :laugh:
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Its the missing service history that bugs me, but I guess thats reflected in the price. He as said any inspection is welcome.
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Its the missing service history that bugs me, but I guess thats reflected in the price. He as said any inspection is welcome.
Did he keep any receipts for the parts?? :huh:
I used to service my old Golf and I do with my Audi but I keep a lever arch folder of ALL of my receipts
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I will pose the question tomorrow, the garage is only 3 mins from my house so its handy enough.
Oh well almost time for work :(
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Looks nice:
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/volkswagen-vw-golf-mark-5-gttdi-140-tdi-black-3-door-mk-five/1010581243#gallery-item-full-2
Right I'm 100% off to work now!!
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Im going to view the car above tomorrow (this one: http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/volkswagen-vw-golf-mark-5-gttdi-140-tdi-black-3-door-mk-five/1010581243#gallery-item-full-4)
My only concern is they guy who owns works as a panel beater / sprayer and Im worried it could of had paint and maybe even been in a un recorded accident (or am I been paranoid?!?!). I have noticed the back is de badged and the bottom of the rear bumper is colour coded. However he as told me there are slight stone chips on the front (to be expected) and a very very small air bubble in the paint on the left hand wing (Ive seen defects like this in brand new cars, but still its all playing on my mind a little.
The cam belt was also changed at very low miles, but talking to the garage it was done at he thinks with it been low miles this could be down to age. HPI shows 51,000 miles on the clock in July 2010.
Thoughts???? I think I'm going MAD!!!!!
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Cambelt will have been due on age. 5 years i think was the limit, so ties in with that. Take a magnet and try areas for filler? If it doesn't want to grab the metal continually then walk away. Other option is view and then AA inspect it...do the cheap version as it covers most basics...
Being black, I am willing to bet that no matter the expertise as a panel beater, the colour will be slightly off if its been sprayed. Look for signs inside the boot, and underneath at the rear. Thing is though, a lot of people round my way have colour coded that lower valance as it just a big bubble of plastic on the rear otherwise, as its not got any styling like even the standard GTI's.
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Thanks!!
Im quite excited now, game face is ready for the viewing :whistle: :nerd: :lipsrsealed: