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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: DS1991 on 20 February 2013, 16:12

Title: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: DS1991 on 20 February 2013, 16:12: I've got a 1.8 Driver MK3 and got a set of GTI suspension spare.

I know the GTI suspension is 15mm lower than normal Golf suspension but was wondering if thats lower on the springs or if the shocks are different size/lower.

cheers.
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: tweed on 20 February 2013, 16:55: Pretty sure shocks are shorter :wink:
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: javalin on 20 February 2013, 17:54: GTI is "+" suspension, 1.8 is standard suspension. Lots of differences, ARB, Wishbones, ball joints, etc.

Look here at the different parts for GTI vs Non GTI -> http://www.vwspares.co.uk/g3suspension.php (http://www.vwspares.co.uk/g3suspension.php)
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: boneybradley on 20 February 2013, 18:47: shockers are the same, it's the springs that make the gti that bit lower

although as said the arms, anti roll bars etc are different too (19mm arb instead of 17mm for example)
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: Wayne on 21 February 2013, 00:10: Standard GTI shocks are crap and best off in the bin, use the springs with a new set of gas shocks (Boge are a good choice)
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 21 February 2013, 09:06: +1 ^^^
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: Gavv8 on 21 February 2013, 09:25: Quote from: Wayne on 21 February 2013, 00:10
Standard GTI shocks are crap and best off in the bin, use the springs with a new set of gas shocks (Boge are a good choice)
The standard shocks i took off mine were Boge.
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: boneybradley on 21 February 2013, 09:37: Quote from: Gavv8 on 21 February 2013, 09:25
The standard shocks i took off mine were Boge.

yeah but after market boge are valved differently... the o.e spec was softer!
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 21 February 2013, 09:59: Boge turbo gas are what you want if you want to retain some comfort and steer away from sea sickness.
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Post by: Organisys on 21 February 2013, 13:07: One is really high and soft, the other is just high and soft.
:grin:
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: tweed on 21 February 2013, 13:28: Oh are the after market shocks shorter?
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: boneybradley on 21 February 2013, 14:19: Quote from: tweed on 21 February 2013, 13:28
Oh are the after market shocks shorter?

after market boge-sachs and bilstein (and others) are not shorter...

you need to buy tuning shockers from p.i - fk etc if you want shorter pistons (the fk's I have fitted are about 2 inch shorter than the o.e's)
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: tweed on 21 February 2013, 14:58: Quote from: boneybradley on 21 February 2013, 14:19
Quote from: tweed on 21 February 2013, 13:28
Oh are the after market shocks shorter?

after market boge-sachs and bilstein (and others) are not shorter...

you need to buy tuning shockers from p.i - fk etc if you want shorter pistons (the fk's I have fitted are about 2 inch shorter than the o.e's)

Don't know where I got that from then.

Thanks for that
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: Gavv8 on 21 February 2013, 17:16: Quote from: boneybradley on 21 February 2013, 09:37
Quote from: Gavv8 on 21 February 2013, 09:25
The standard shocks i took off mine were Boge.

yeah but after market boge are valved differently... the o.e spec was softer!
Oh.. :undecided:
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 21 February 2013, 21:33: Quote from: tweed on 21 February 2013, 13:28
Oh are the after market shocks shorter?

My Weitec Ultra GT struts are definitely shorter than the standard ones.
Title: Re: Difference Between GTI and Non GTI Suspension.
Post by: boneybradley on 21 February 2013, 21:48: Quote from: thai-wronghorse on 21 February 2013, 21:33

My Weitec Ultra GT struts are definitely shorter than the standard ones.

they are not a direct o.e replacement, they are tuning type shockers with shortened rods (designed to run with lower suspension)

o.e replacements would be no good if lower more than 30/40mm.. that's where you need the shorter rod one's, my fk's are definitely shorter but they are designed for upto 60mm lowering