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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: GTi_James on 18 February 2013, 07:59
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morning all, i'm about to waste more money on the golf, wondering which would be better with 18s, lowering springs? or coilies?
and piks of of cars lowered at 30, 40, 50 etc etc would help as i dont want to be rediculously low, just enough to look smart
many thanks guys
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How much u gonna spend??
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Im wondering the same thing, about to lower my V5
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Jebus there's like a thread a week on this try searching coil overs etc you will get loads of info simples if you want comfort and not to low go with springs and shocks and if you want lower than say 30 to 40mm I would recommend coil overs which start from your basic joms for about £150 up to your better brands like weitec and kw for say £500 odds
By e sounds of it if our wanting to go low to be cool as you said probably coilovers would be your best bet so in that case say what your willing to pay and we can recommend some :)
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Im looking at around £200 and going to be running 18s
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Im looking at around £200 and going to be running 18s
Then don't go for coilovers, the ride will be shocking!
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Im looking at around £200 and going to be running 18s
As said depends how low you want to go there are plenty that run joms and are happy as Dom said the ride is not as good as a decent set of coils or springs and shocks would be if I was you I would save up more and get a better set of coils like ap, Kw or weitec
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Im looking at around £200 and going to be running 18s
As said depends how low you want to go there are plenty that run joms and are happy as Dom said the ride is not as good as a decent set of coils or springs and shocks would be if I was you I would save up more and get a better set of coils like ap, Kw or weitec
Yeah, my JOMs were fine for the first 6 months, then the fronts leaked some oil & they've been sh!t since :grin:
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Nae fine Dom..... But as said they are cheap would of Thought 6mths was a bit premature even for them
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coilovers all the way :cool: get them to they height your actually happy with, yes the ride is rough but they really do handle very good.
I have a 1mile long dirt track to do with my cheapy coilovers god its bad but wouldnt go springs.
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Cheap coils on 18" wheels will be pretty horrific, or any sort of low profile tyre to be fair. Ive got a set of hottunnings on my mk3 and cannot wait to get them off and replace them with my AP's, ride is ruined at the moment. Try pick up a second hand set of more expensive coils for 200, makes better sense in my opinion.
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coilovers all the way :cool: get them to they height your actually happy with, yes the ride is rough but they really do handle very good.
I have a 1mile long dirt track to do with my cheapy coilovers god its bad but wouldnt go springs.
Depends on coils the more u spend the better you get!! If what you saying about where u stay etc i wouldn't be using cheap coils as a road like that will destroy then over time If people only want a drop to say 40mm then springs and shocks would be a better option
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If you gonna do something do it properly :evil: get some eibech or hr springs or if your loaded the kits they have. :wink:
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Dont bother with cheap coilovers unless you're just looking to go low and for your car to handle like a bag of sh1te.
I had JOM and TA sh!tbrix coilovers in my last golf, eventually changed them out for a H&R Cup Kit. Really great bit of kit.
I have Weitec Hicon GT Coilovers in my Anniversary at the moment, they're a very good coilover but I'm changing them out soon to make room for some H&R Twin Tubes.
If you're looking for decent handling, hold out, save some more money, and forget about budget coilovers.
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This is gonna sound daft but what's the handling difference?? I assumed that coilovers will be better handling as they are more solid but is this not the case?? :embarrassed:
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ive found that coilovers are alot better when it comes to handling, haven't had a chance to properly test them on golf but when i had on my astra really felt you could go into a corner pretty hot and not worry about coming out the other side lol
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lol forgot i posted this thread! :laugh:
i'm looking at Koni's springs and shocks from dpmperformance i think it is, £275, other than that its saving up for some weitecs or 180 on each corner for bilsteins. as said i dont want recidulous low, something that will be smart looking and tight, planning on 15mm space on front and 20mm space on rear with some 18"Vintage or Mams, still considering Rota Drift though
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This is gonna sound daft but what's the handling difference?? I assumed that coilovers will be better handling as they are more solid but is this not the case?? :embarrassed:
I have just put mine onto coilies and all bushes have been changed to poly. Handles very well, very stable and hardly any body roll
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I have just put mine onto coilies and all bushes have been changed to poly. Handles very well, very stable and hardly any body roll
What coilovers did you go for?
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I have just put mine onto coilies and all bushes have been changed to poly. Handles very well, very stable and hardly any body roll
your cars ride is quite nice as well, i recon then that probably upgrading all bushes would be required, you burnt your tyres out yet?! :laugh:
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This is gonna sound daft but what's the handling difference?? I assumed that coilovers will be better handling as they are more solid but is this not the case?? :embarrassed:
I have just put mine onto coilies and all bushes have been changed to poly. Handles very well, very stable and hardly any body roll
Might pop down and see you this weekend and let u take me for a spin :wink:
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ive found that coilovers are alot better when it comes to handling, haven't had a chance to properly test them on golf but when i had on my astra really felt you could go into a corner pretty hot and not worry about coming out the other side lol
I've got to disagree, £200 coilovers will be nowhere near as good as a £200 spring and shock kit.
Coilovers are firm, but they are too crashy and harsh to let you drive quickly on anything other than the smoothest of a-roads. Try having a back road blast with cheap coilies, I can guarantee you'll get sick of it pretty quickly.
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ive found that coilovers are alot better when it comes to handling, haven't had a chance to properly test them on golf but when i had on my astra really felt you could go into a corner pretty hot and not worry about coming out the other side lol
I've got to disagree, £200 coilovers will be nowhere near as good as a £200 spring and shock kit.
Coilovers are firm, but they are too crashy and harsh to let you drive quickly on anything other than the smoothest of a-roads. Try having a back road blast with cheap coilies, I can guarantee you'll get sick of it pretty quickly.
thats what i thought, shocks and springs are more stirdy and take more of a beating because theres less moving parts is that right? :undecided:
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I think im gonna go for springs as im not looking for a massive drop, comfort is the aim still.
what springs do you recommend?
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i found this
http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/volkswagen-golf-4-97-06-c-2376_2531_2580.html (http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/volkswagen-golf-4-97-06-c-2376_2531_2580.html)
so recon i'll be ordering from here regarding springs and i want comfort and a touch of performance though there are other options on that website as well
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ive found that coilovers are alot better when it comes to handling, haven't had a chance to properly test them on golf but when i had on my astra really felt you could go into a corner pretty hot and not worry about coming out the other side lol
I've got to disagree, £200 coilovers will be nowhere near as good as a £200 spring and shock kit.
Coilovers are firm, but they are too crashy and harsh to let you drive quickly on anything other than the smoothest of a-roads. Try having a back road blast with cheap coilies, I can guarantee you'll get sick of it pretty quickly.
i live in the country side and its back roads all the way to work :) yeah you know it if you hit a pothole or something but when you get to some of the smoother bits of straights / corners its bliss :P lol
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That maybe but cheap coils don't last simples
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im not holding out mine will last evan a year like but fronts were leaking oil so had to be replaced asap :)
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im not holding out mine will last evan a year like but fronts were leaking oil so had to be replaced asap :)
So if u think that why would u lol if our going to get coils get a decent set and they won't break in months lol
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well i have alot of working needing done to my car... so buying cheap to get it running properly and then i will start buying decent ;) lol, just spent another few hundred on parts today... and been told shes needing welded underneath.... cars getting abit of a nightmare
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f**k that not being rude but after seeing a pic of your car etc with the work needed I would be buying another golf mate its gonna cost you heaps to get the bodywork right all that on a 98 golf no chance mate what is it a 1.8t?
If u ask people on here buying cheap ends in disaster!
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like i said im just buying cheap for now and then il buy proper :)
and all exterior needs is bumper wing and passenger door which use isnt going to cost much at all lol
yeah alot of people have told me to get rid and get something else but tbh dont have the money so all i can do is slowly build it back up mate.
and yeah its 1.8T
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like i said im just buying cheap for now and then il buy proper :)
and all exterior needs is bumper wing and passenger door which use isnt going to cost much at all lol
yeah alot of people have told me to get rid and get something else but tbh dont have the money so all i can do is slowly build it back up mate.
and yeah its 1.8T
Fair enough but even bumper wing and door if it requires spraying will cost etc i get what our saying its a fair project you have taken on like before you go and splurge all this money on it make sure the engine is sound etc
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hahaha... mate tbh the car is a total raft everything about it is rough sadly :\ engine does run fine like but has alot of miles on her like, and yeah im planning on getting a respray when i get my bonus so not to bothered how scratch bits are aslong as there straight
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Welcome to the money pit but just remember what it costs you for a respray you could get a low mileage golf mk4 which doesn't need what yours done and probably a good bit younger at was all my point is pal
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yeah i know what your saying mate lol, i should by a new one tbh but just cant afford it and its another big project for me lol, bought a Yamaha R6 cat B last year and fixed it all up back to road legal was really great like, lost money in it though but was good.
Are you on TSG mate? see a write up of my car so far lol....
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Lol sorry mate don't associate myself with TSG there are some nice motors in there but most of them are needs in corsas that like to rev there engines at Asda thinking its cool to hear a 1.2 wraps itself to death!!!!
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youd be quite surprised its fairly changed lol supras scoobys evos a couple 200sx's skyline lotus but yeah you do get the newbies with there lil baby cars lol. But has fairly moved up now that most of us are over 20 haha
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Not in to all that sh!t I like Eastside I do what I do to my car because I like it not to impress others have met some folk of TSG and they give Scotland a bad name that's all I will say and come on most of the cars at the last TSG meet we're rafts there was a good few nice cars but oer than that it was a corsa sh!t fest
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ive found that coilovers are alot better when it comes to handling, haven't had a chance to properly test them on golf but when i had on my astra really felt you could go into a corner pretty hot and not worry about coming out the other side lol
I've got to disagree, £200 coilovers will be nowhere near as good as a £200 spring and shock kit.
Coilovers are firm, but they are too crashy and harsh to let you drive quickly on anything other than the smoothest of a-roads. Try having a back road blast with cheap coilies, I can guarantee you'll get sick of it pretty quickly.
I'm running cheap JOMs. It is a bit crazy and probably no where near the ride of springs but for the money I can't complain. I'm not expecting miracles out of them. It's all I can afford at the moment as my front standard shocks were knocking so that was the cheapest and better option at the time. They do seem crashy as the spring rate on the front does not seem to match the back. Just learning to take humps slower.
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lol have a few mates that are just dead against TSG just think its for chavs haha but i think its aryt like :P only been to one of the meets though there 1st big one and yeah they shud maybe have a good car section and a raft section lol
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Everybody is different they have sound members also Adzer is a good guy but most of them are wank that use there car mods to enhance there thingy which is already non existent I repsect anyone that is willing to point time and effort in to car but when you think adding blue neon lights to the inside of your car is cool then ou should be lined up and sh!t!
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yeah adams cool like he'll have the joyful job of welding my car lol :P
neons are the way forward though.... haha must admit something ive never done like lol, always fancied flashing blues behind the grills incase you meet a friend at night scare the crud outa them lol but thatd be the only lights other than standard issue stuff.
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Does anyone have any springs they recommend
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never used springs but do hear alot of good things about HnR
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Eibach or weitec springs mate
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Anyone used these..... (Coilies)
271039909506 (egay)
Or these........(shocks kit)
271039889898
Anyone wanna be a ginueapig :laugh:
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Anyone used these..... (Coilies)
271039909506 (egay)
Or these........(shocks kit)
271039889898
Anyone wanna be a ginueapig :laugh:
Haha couldn't be any worse than some of the other budget brands dude
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How about these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370747367333?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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How about these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370747367333?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
H & R are good as well mate
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i think im going to go for the springs and shocks option, dont fancy having to replace or deal with the nightmare of coilies, put it this way i havent heard of any complaints from spring owners other than the ride hight not being adjustable but at the end of the day that doesnt bother me as long as i get 40-50 drop.