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Title: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: golf-sib on 09 February 2013, 18:01
Hi, I know there's a few helpful plumbers on here, my friends got a Worcester 24i RSF Combi and they wanted an opinion before they call a plumber out. Basically the boiler comes on and off as it pleases for the heating and they seem to have a similar issue with hot water, they usually hear the boiler fire up as they turn the hot water off.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 09 February 2013, 18:09
I'm not a plumber but it sounds like they have a thermostat somewhere for the heating which would cause it to cut in and out when the temperature hits the correct temp in the room. As for hot water our system cuts the heating off when using hot water and when filling up the expansion tank. We have an air to water system which works different to a normal system. Basically when using hot water it overrides the heating if that makes sense.

This may not be what's happening to your mates i'm sure someone will have another answer soon  :smiley:
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: dixie180 on 09 February 2013, 18:10
Have they tried "Googling" it.
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: dixie180 on 09 February 2013, 18:21
Ask your friend if the pressure needle is on the red mark on the pressure gauge.Alternatively they can try here.http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=151549
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: T_J_G on 09 February 2013, 19:08
Speak to JustAlex on here, he's in Kent too.
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: golf-sib on 09 February 2013, 19:53
Yes I've tried google, throws to many results up, from relay, to pressure switch, to thermostat, to a brick thrown at a boiler. Needles not on red but at 1.5 bar, the hot water problem was described as:

When u turn hot tap on only sometimes goes warm then back to cold, when u turn tap off boiler kicks in but when you turn tap back on the boiler goes off
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: Toby on 09 February 2013, 20:06
It's not frozen outside? Or the condenser pipe blocked ?

Just a thought   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: golf-sib on 09 February 2013, 20:40
It's not frozen outside? Or the condenser pipe blocked ?

Just a thought   :rolleyes:

I've asked him to check that, but is like err whats it look like, I have explained its the plastic pipe that goes into any waste pipe as the water is acidic. I've told him to throw a brick at it, but his in sheerness and I'm transportless atm and in northwest kent.
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: Toby on 09 February 2013, 20:42
Brick isn't the answer lol

Cheapo mate.  Lol
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: golf-sib on 09 February 2013, 20:53
Dam right I'm a cheapo, golfs sorn, motorbike got stolen and going through insurance and the recovery vehicle the ka is with someone else  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: Toby on 09 February 2013, 20:55
I ment your mate lol  :grin:
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: golf-sib on 09 February 2013, 21:09
I ment your mate lol  :grin:

Lol, yeah going by the pics it looks like an oldish boiler from what he sent me, I'd just get a new one in as you can get some good deals now.
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: Toby on 09 February 2013, 21:11
Yea these days! Ushually cost affective! Just the labour!
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: golf-sib on 09 February 2013, 21:18
Depends, my uncle has a medium sized house and a friend works at British gas, got him a good boiler and labour in at £1500, no flaws in the two years of it being fitted compared to his antique that looked like it ran on coal  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Some of the bigger firms do deals which are modest. Yet my brother hired some cowboys that required a sparky and a gas engineer even though everything that the sparky was meant to do was already their! But more for him  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: justalex81 on 10 February 2013, 18:29
the 24i rsf is an unusual beast. i have a customer who has one of these and once the problems started, they didn't stop  :grin:

I always recommend hiring cowboys to illegally install a boiler. Best thing you can do in my opinion. Especially when it kills someone or blows your house to bits  :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: T_J_G on 10 February 2013, 19:30
Depends, my uncle has a medium sized house and a friend works at British gas, got him a good boiler and labour in at £1500, no flaws in the two years of it being fitted compared to his antique that looked like it ran on coal  :grin: :grin: :grin:


We've got one of those, a 1960's (I think) oil boiler. Has NO electrics whatsoever!
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: golf-sib on 10 February 2013, 21:52
the 24i rsf is an unusual beast. i have a customer who has one of these and once the problems started, they didn't stop  :grin:

I always recommend hiring cowboys to illegally install a boiler. Best thing you can do in my opinion. Especially when it kills someone or blows your house to bits  :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

Any idea's on whats the fault on the boiler alex? I've asked a friend to check on his British Gas laptop of boiler knowledge but his not got back to me, I have said get a new one, but you know what people are like, they still think running steam trains is worthwhile or a car they bought for £50
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: Hartside on 11 February 2013, 13:00
It may be two seperate issues on the boiler. The hot water thing needs to be checked out by someone as it could cost you a few bob just swapping parts out. I would guess it's a pressure switch.

The heating coming on randomly could be down to the thermostat fitted. I have a Honeywell wireless controller on mine that had a setting in it which was supposed to gently bring the house up to temp before the time clock clicked in. When I made my 4am visit to the bog the heating was always on. It had me round the twist before I found the setting in an installer setting and turned it off.
Title: Re: Boiler issue for a friend
Post by: justalex81 on 12 February 2013, 10:37
do they have an independant programmer or one that's built into the front of the boiler?

either way the boiler is being told to fire and it only does that by being given a signal. faulty programmer/stat i'd say.

hot water issue suggests diverter valve is on it's way out. they have a wax stat that pushes a shaft onto a switch attached to the end of the diverter valve. This tells the boiler to fire up. When the wax stat is on it's way out, it doesn't make the switch properly, hence why it goes on and off.