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Title: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: murraymint on 07 February 2013, 18:44
Can't believe I'm thinking this but, i don't think I want to lower my golf!?  :shocked: :undecided: driving home tonight. I'm starting to trust it a bit more now (not thinking it's going to brake down on me) and started to enjoy it. I was thinking this handles quite well on stock sus, corners well and it don't brake my back like coilovers will. I think it Might of had new springs shocks before I had. Plus I spend most of my time driving it not looking at it lol.
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 07 February 2013, 18:48
why not put coils on anyway? I'd bet that cheap coils at standard height would handle better than stock sus?
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: murraymint on 07 February 2013, 18:50
Yh that's what I was gunna do. But I've only got a set of cheap coilovers. And although I loved the look of my old golf lowered, I hated the ride. Probably just a moment of madness  :whistle:
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: tweed on 07 February 2013, 18:59
never lowered my 16v wouldn't bother if I got another.

get better shocks and anti roll bar kit.

Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: boneybradley on 07 February 2013, 19:17
lower by 30mm is ok and if you buy decent kit then ride won't suffer..... I really want coils but don't want the bad ride!!
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: Bellend on 07 February 2013, 19:23
I preferred the ride when I did mine. Hated driving non lowered cars.


Now I can't think about going back to a lowered car after the MK4. :grin:
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: tweed on 07 February 2013, 19:43
Don't know where you guys live but I'm near very tight bumpy country back roads. Lowered cars suck on roads like that when you want a F1 style drive.

Why buy a abf if you can't drive it flat out on roads like that?

This is why my 8v is slammed, don't go fast  :grin:
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: mrsaunders on 07 February 2013, 20:06
I much prefer mine dropped abit, an I can honestly say I don't think it's a bad ride whatsoever
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: VW BUSH on 07 February 2013, 23:16
Lows without ££££ = bad ride and handling.
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 08 February 2013, 00:12
never lowered my 16v wouldn't bother if I got another.

get better shocks and anti roll bar kit.

how many golfs do you have?!
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: Leroy on 08 February 2013, 08:39
At least lower it a bit, god i can't stand the look of my car at standard ride height, i think it looks awful. can't wait to get my coileys on next week.

Snap out of it minty!!!
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: Metallix on 08 February 2013, 10:26
Best mix of fast road handling, comfort, value, slightly lower =

Boge turbo shocks + Eibach spring kit

^ handles much better than a coilover kit for the same money.
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 08 February 2013, 11:37
Cheap coils are still pretty harsh at close to normal ride hight from my experience, the AP's I have on my white golf however ride as soft as silk with a little drop.
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 08 February 2013, 12:16
Best mix of fast road handling, comfort, value, slightly lower =

Boge turbo shocks + Eibach spring kit

^ handles much better than a coilover kit for the same money.

how much can you get this for? same as a price of joms?
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: Metallix on 08 February 2013, 12:31
Spring kit is ~£140
Shocks are just a decent quality standard item.  They were available from GSF for something like £35 each, but you may need to contact a branch rather than use their web.

If your standard shocks are ok then they should work fine with the spring kit, it's jsut very well matched to these dampers.
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: Len on 08 February 2013, 13:02
I guess it depends how old and worn your shocks are.
If you have a fairly new set then handling will be better.
Sorry but ya gotta lower it! 25/30mm at least as it looks like a 4x4 if you dont!
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: tweed on 08 February 2013, 13:18
Cut a coil  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 08 February 2013, 14:21
I guess it depends how old and worn your shocks are.
If you have a fairly new set then handling will be better.
Sorry but ya gotta lower it! 25/30mm at least as it looks like a 4x4 if you dont!

+1 on this. standard height looks terrible.
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 08 February 2013, 15:24
Standard ride height   :sick:
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: boneybradley on 08 February 2013, 15:32
I have had (over the years)

boggo std set up
non branded springs - o.e shocks -40mm
eibach springs - sachs/boge shocks -40mm (although it was more 25mm)
cheapo coilovers
fk top adjsutables and fk springs -40mm (again 25mm)

and the only one that gave any decent comfort was the o.e set up, even the boge/eibach was what i call "you can feel it" harder.

I have read about (semi custom) avo coilovers that have proper spring rates giving really good ride quality but they are £500!! they are said to be closest to o.e comfort when set correctly (not silly low)
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: Metallix on 08 February 2013, 16:18
I think the Boge / Eibach setup still feels like a manufacturer acceptable level of comfort.
If not quite as soft as the original springs, it would at least be representative of a special version,
or it is like comparing a Mk4 1.8T GTI with a SEAT Leon Cupra, the Leon is firmer but still comfortable.
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: Bellend on 08 February 2013, 17:04
My 16v didn't handle too badly. Was quite surprised when I saw that it was standard.
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 08 February 2013, 17:33
get a Volvo if you want comfort. bring on the bumps I say  :evil:
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: Screech16v on 08 February 2013, 19:09
I too have had a few sets of suspension

Standard set up
Unknown springs and shocks x 2 -40 and -60
Koni springs and top adjustable shocks -40
Avo adjustable coil overs (fronts only) second hand

ALL CRAP haha   ,Avo were mint until one sheered off!

Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: VW BUSH on 08 February 2013, 20:57
get a Volvo if you want comfort. bring on the bumps I say  :evil:
Mate most Volvo's will rip the arse off a Mk3 in speed and handling :grin:
 
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: stow1985 on 08 February 2013, 22:24
If you like the way it drives then just carry on driving it...if it aint broke don't fix it.

I don't know what dampers Ive got, I've only replaced one in two years of heavy ownership....cheapy thing...goes round round abouts and over speed bumps well enough for me...altho tyres do play a big part in handling I have found

keep it standard. drop it by 30mm if you really want blow your budget on tyres then put the peddle to the metal  :evil:
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: Leroy on 08 February 2013, 22:29
get a Volvo if you want comfort. bring on the bumps I say  :evil:

+1, slam it minty!!! Standard 4x4 ride height? are you going to have a sticker on your car next saying "some things should be left alone" like the old tv advert?

Your car is looking great, now finish the job and lower it.  :cool:
Title: Re: Can't believe in thinking this but
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 09 February 2013, 01:41
get a Volvo if you want comfort. bring on the bumps I say  :evil:

+1, slam it minty!!! Standard 4x4 ride height? are you going to have a sticker on your car next saying "some things should be left alone" like the old tv advert?

Your car is looking great, now finish the job and lower it.  :cool:

this guy knows it