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General => General discussion => Topic started by: bobotheclown on 06 February 2013, 22:37
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http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/02/report-next-xbox-will-use-persistent-net-connection-to-block-used-games/
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I think its unlikely
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Pretty sure I read this for Xbox also but it was a case of 1 code per console if I want to use on another you need to buy the code via Xbox live.. Could be wrong forget where I read it
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If it's true, you can only blame game pirates.
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If it's true, you can only blame game pirates.
I really thought that was a thing of the past, with hacked/chipped/flashed consoles being banned on LIVE etc.
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This is nothing to do with game pirates. It's all to do with secondhand games. Their thought process is this:
Person A buys a brand new game for £50. Games company gets their cut.
Person A then sells game to a shop/trades for another game/sells to Person B for £20.
Person B pays £20 for game (whether from trade shop or secondhand) but none of it reaches games company.
What the plan is:
Person A buys a brand new game for £50.
Person B can't buy it secondhand so has to fork out for brand new at £50.
More profit for games company.
What will really happen:
Person A doesn't buy game at full price if can't get rid of it or doesn't want to risk it.
Person B will wait until game is bargain basement £5 so less profit for company.
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Agreed stealthwolf
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As a manager for GAME I can say we haven't here'd nothing of this being true. However if it does happen you can kiss goodbye to every game shop as a lot of our profit is in the pre owned market.
You are correct in thinking that the game company's feel that they are not making enough money from there games because people do wait for into come in pre owned. They are getting greedy but do not realise the damage this will do if it goes forward. A lot of my customer simply cannot afford to buy a game at full wack and not sure if anyone has noticed but this time last year new game releases where £39.99 have you now noticed they are £44.99? This is because the game company's are not giving us as good of a deal when we are buying in bulk as again there becoming greedy. Don't get me wrong you can go to Tesco/Asda and get them cheaper sometimes but the game company's are getting wise to this. The supermarkets beleave it or not make a loss when they sell there games cheaper than us. There plan is while you are there you will do your shopping too meaning they gain there profit there. But the game company's are not giving them much stock hence why they always seem to be out of stock then I get customers asking me to price match them :rolleyes:
I cannot see this happening myself because I feel this will kill microsoft Xbox because I for one will not buy one if I cannot then sell a game I have finished with plus I'm almost certain they will face a few law suits because technically they hold the rights to a game you have just paid for meaning the game will never fully belong to you which will break some kind of consumer law
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IIRC both Sony and MS have looked into doing this. Personally, I will only buy certain games at full price eg CoD. Anything else I will wait until either bargain basement cheap or buy secondhand. If I can't buy cheap, then I just won't bother buying. I suspect I'm not the only one.
This will harm game sales and limit innovation. Why take risks on a new/different type of game when more of the same is more likely to succeed?
This is why I'm holding back from getting a nextgen console on release.
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Already happening, just look at Steam.
You buy a PC game and have to go online to make it work through DLC, the disc you buy has nothing on it other than the access codes and launch info.
Absolutely worthless once used due to the hassle of getting new pins and getting it to work without sticking the disc in every 5 mins....
I think the console is on its way out anyway with pads and computers getting more powerful and portable and things like games being hidden up in the clouds.
This to me is why they are trying to rinse out the console gamers pockets one more time, as in 5 years games will all be downloads and full of f**king adds and bugs put in by paying sponsers grrrr
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Already happening, just look at Steam.
You buy a PC game and have to go online to make it work through DLC, the disc you buy has nothing on it other than the access codes and launch info.
Absolutely worthless once used due to the hassle of getting new pins and getting it to work without sticking the disc in every 5 mins....
I think the console is on its way out anyway with pads and computers getting more powerful and portable and things like games being hidden up in the clouds.
This to me is why they are trying to rinse out the console gamers pockets one more time, as in 5 years games will all be downloads and full of f**king adds and bugs put in by paying sponsers grrrr
true. Cloud sh!t is just that tho. Non if it works if you look at the lag on the likes of COD without specific dedicated servers. Why Xbox is a touch better than the PS3 versions....so unless the games companies want to provide proper servers how's it gonna work? Also cloud stuff will just be hacked anyway. Nothing is really safe in the ether.
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I really hope games won't be downloads only anytime soon, no fibre internet here and with limited bandwidth I wouldn't be able to download many if any games :( So unless 30+ mb internet is available to a much larger % of the country than it is currently or even planned to be by 2014 I don't see how they can ever sell games in the UK via download only.