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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Gaz W on 04 February 2013, 11:01

Title: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Gaz W on 04 February 2013, 11:01
Hi Guys,

I've picked up a set of Bora Sport Clocks, and don't think I have the SKC (secret key code) for them (or at least I think!?).

I have a guide on how to do it, however I need to know here would I find the SKC for the new clocks? I have VCDS/Vagcom and VAG tacho.

Thanks

Gaz
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: rio_gti on 04 February 2013, 12:19
Vag tacho can find the skc can take a while thou (half hour)
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Wazzzer on 04 February 2013, 15:59
Are your current clocks Bosch or VDO?
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: gti gurl on 11 September 2015, 16:43
I didnt want to start a new thread seeing as this is exactly what I need to do. Does anyone around the dartford area code these in and how much I'm looking at roughly ?

And I may aswell tell yous about my bargain buy at the scrappy which was bora vents and clocks and new drivers handle all for 15 quid to say I was happy is an understatement lol

Cheers  :smiley:
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: itavaltalainen on 11 September 2015, 17:04
Can you post a photo of the part number sticker here?

Depending on who manufactured them you can retrieve the SKC. It also depends on what immo version your car is wrt also needing other codes and new transponders.
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: gti gurl on 11 September 2015, 17:22
Please give me some good news lol
(http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t398/r4ch3l_86/clocks_zpskwramzca.jpg)[/URL]
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: itavaltalainen on 11 September 2015, 18:54
They are immo3 clocks, good news is they will work on immo2 and immo3 cars.
Other bit of good news is that they are ones made by VDO, so SKC can be retrieved via OBD. I can do this but am nowhere near you and don't have jobs near Dartford for a while.

Do you know what you have in your car at the moment?
If you have an immo3 car then you will also need to know PIN of that car and also you will need new transponders.

Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Wazzzer on 11 September 2015, 19:24
New transponders? I've never had to use anything new for immo3 to immo3 clock swaps
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: itavaltalainen on 11 September 2015, 19:43
Depends what you use.... did you copy immo id from one cluster to the other?
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: davemk4 on 11 September 2015, 22:21
I fitted bora sport clocks. No idea how i got em to work. As didnt have anybof the codes from the car they were from. I Plugged em  in iirc recoded them with details of my own clocks. Only thing that doesnt work right was my traction control light osnt in same place as originals and doesnt light up now when wheels skid or turn the traction control off. 😕😕
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: gti gurl on 11 September 2015, 23:45
Yea the ones in my car at the moment are immo3
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: itavaltalainen on 12 September 2015, 00:10
Easy fit then.... if you have SKC or can get it read.
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: gti gurl on 12 September 2015, 00:33
do you know how much roughly ill be looking at ?
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Wazzzer on 12 September 2015, 21:36
No I only re wrote the SKC from the existing cluster/ECU to the cluster being fitted to the car as per the guide on ukmkivs and ross-tech

I use VAG TACHO for the SKC extraction and mileage correction then VCDS for the SKC swap
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: gti gurl on 12 September 2015, 22:00
Nice one  :wink:  I might just go on a few of the mk4 forums on FB and see if there's anyone local that could do it
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: itavaltalainen on 12 September 2015, 22:10
Have a look at VCDS user map (on vw/audi forum).
As I said might go and see a mate in Essex.... if I do I can stop over to swap your cluster.
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: gti gurl on 13 September 2015, 10:32
That would be brilliant how much would I be looking at roughly as I need payday to hurry up lol
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: itavaltalainen on 13 September 2015, 13:43
Read your PM again :D
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 13 September 2015, 14:27
Vagwerkes are only up the road from you in Romford, they coded in and tweaked (miles to empty, lit needles, welcome message) my full FIS Bora Sport / Anniversary clocks.
£40 and about 30minutes chatting on Rams driveway whilst he did the work.
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Wazzzer on 13 September 2015, 16:08
Wow I'm massively undercharging to swap clocks lol
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: gti gurl on 13 September 2015, 22:05
Doh  :lipsrsealed: my bad lol well if you are about i'll defo have them done if thats alright
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: itavaltalainen on 19 September 2015, 23:30
Doh  :lipsrsealed: my bad lol well if you are about i'll defo have them done if thats alright

Were you talking to me? Somehow this thread has dropped off my radar :D

Will send you PM when I go to Essex in near future.
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Richieblue83 on 19 November 2015, 19:59
Hi all gr8 thread,
 New to the forum and tbh, joined for this thread really. Ok my question:
May of already been answered but can't quite grasp what I need to know..
Anyway. I have a 1999 golf 1.8t,
The Mfa (fis) has gone funny so took the bora sport clocks from my 2002 bora.

Now can I put the bora clocks in the golf?
Both made by VDO and both have 920 in the serial number meaning both can-bus so can I swap?

Many thanks
Hope I can help in future, done a fair few conversions and have loads of parts laying around that I need to clear. Lol
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: itavaltalainen on 19 November 2015, 20:42
Yeah swap can be done but will need immo coding to car. Where in the country are you?
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Richieblue83 on 20 November 2015, 07:47
Yeah swap can be done but will need immo coding to car. Where in the country are you?

I'm in Chigwell near Romford.
I see the post about vagwerkes who just happens to be my pals brother and his mate. But they telling me it can't be done. ( they just want my clocks) any not far from there but they can't do it.

Do I need the SKC?
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: itavaltalainen on 20 November 2015, 08:34
Did they say why they can't swap them?

Do you have full part numbers for both, if the old ones were immo3 and they newer ones immo2 then it would not be possible, but as the replacements are newer that should not be an issue.

Only thing is that you may need new transponders.

You will need the SKC to code the bora speedo to the car. This can be retrieved with the right tools, done that a few times in the past.
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Richieblue83 on 20 November 2015, 10:36
Said can't be done because the golf is too old. I know that's nonsense.

Both clusters are can-bus as both have 920 in the part number and both are made by VDO. Golf is a 1999 1.8t and the bora is a 2002 1.6se (although I converted it to the Cupra AUQ engine)
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: itavaltalainen on 20 November 2015, 15:10
I can do it for you but am at the other end of country!
You could send your speedo to me and I can get you SKC extracted, then you can match it to your 98 car with VCDS lite.
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Wazzzer on 21 November 2015, 21:05
I could do it as well but I'm a fair few miles and a boat trip away from you lol
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Richieblue83 on 28 November 2015, 18:43
Ok. Where about a are you both? I don't mind a mission or 2
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: itavaltalainen on 28 November 2015, 20:15
I'm a few miles off J7/M5 or alternatively J1/M50 if you're coming from the south.
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Wazzzer on 28 November 2015, 20:55
Isle of Wight, just off Portsmouth/Southampton
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Richieblue83 on 06 December 2015, 09:42
🤔hmmmmmm that is a mission. Got family on Isle of Wight. Think I'll have to get in touch when I'm next visiting.
Title: Re: Fitting Bora Sport Clocks into MK4 Golf
Post by: Wazzzer on 07 December 2015, 18:19
Ok cool just give me a bit of notice and we'll sort something out :afro: