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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: ians on 30 January 2013, 18:08

Title: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!! Sorted
Post by: ians on 30 January 2013, 18:08
Hi all, my mk2 8v digi with a 2ltr bottom end is not firing up, it's got a good fuel supply, good spark, new air filter, timing marks are lining up and a new blue sensor, it was running fine, my son decided to play about with the screw on the throttle body the screw that I think adjusts the mixture (it made the car idle slower) I'm not sure if it's a coincidence but now it won't start :(
I've cleaned up the rotor arm and the dizzy cap. The fuel pump is priming for about 2 seconds and comes on again when I crank the car over... So is there any default setting for that screw or any other suggestions?
Cheers
Ian

Help I've gotta night shift tomorrow :/
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: JJPB8V on 30 January 2013, 19:18
That could be the reason although there are quite a few other reasons, Make sure all pipes and hoses are attached and plugs are plugged in etc Sounds to me like that screw or something got knocked and wants putting back,
You have fuel you have spark so your missing air! so it has to be the mix!
If im wrong im sure someone will point it out but other than that it could be your mass air flow meter, VDO Idle controller (Pray it's not this @£260! :sick:)
There's my 2 pence worth hope it helps! Jess
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: ians on 30 January 2013, 20:23
Yeah jess sounds about right,.I'm just about to leave for a 13 mile walk to work :( keep any ideas coming I'll check in throughout the night. I'll try cranking it tomorrow whilst adjusting said screw
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: JJPB8V on 31 January 2013, 22:24
I've just had a funny thought but how old is your lad?? My eldest is 6 and if he ventured round the back it would be a worthwhile check nothing is up the exhaust!? :grin:
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: ians on 01 February 2013, 15:21
LOL no he's 19 pretty goodwith cars just impatient and will randomly start adjusting stuff  :rolleyes:
Update. I got it running yesterday changed the starter motor as it had jammed, firedup after that ran ok, went out later in the evening back to square one, just turning over and not firing...any advice please?
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: bodga on 01 February 2013, 16:37
Will it fire up with a squirt of easy start?

You can narrow it down to a lack of fuel if it does.
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: ians on 01 February 2013, 17:16
Tried that about an hour ago made no difference at all, disconnected the blue sensor no difference, disconnected the maf no difference..starting to pull my hair out now :/
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: JJPB8V on 01 February 2013, 23:56
What colour are the plug's? and are they new? If so did you gap them and were they the right length?
Im no mechanic by the way im just learning but i pick up pretty quick i think they call it a mid life crisis :grin:
I say this because theres that little switch thing thats by the throttle "Someone throw us a line on what thats called and what it does anytime :whistle:
But he could have done something with that as it is in situ with the mix screw!?
Mine is starting to splutter like mad and im sure it's that expensive VDO idle controller because some idiot (i can only assume for the alarm which is right by it) has butchered the wires to it near the plug! I can only hope it's a poor contact thing or im gonna find myself sleeping in my leaky garage! :grin:
My dad is however a mechanic and he is a keen reader to say the very least and he loves this site and gave me the whole history on why my fan's are blowing cold lol so thats on the to do list!
Hope you get sorted soon! Surely it will get sorted this weekend with the help of a few other's on here!????
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 02 February 2013, 00:10
Get son to sit in the car turning it over. Loosen off dizzy housing before hand (just so you car rotate it) and rotate it whilst he is cranking. Sounds more like a timing issue if you have fuel and spark, it's just the spark is in the wrong place. Does it smell of fuel when cranking and get stronger?

May well need a new hall sender as well.
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: JJPB8V on 02 February 2013, 00:41
Get son to sit in the car turning it over. Loosen off dizzy housing before hand (just so you car rotate it) and rotate it whilst he is cranking. Sounds more like a timing issue if you have fuel and spark, it's just the spark is in the wrong place. Does it smell of fuel when cranking and get stronger?

May well need a new hall sender as well.

Sorry Slick i couldn't find another way to ask as theres no pm sort of thing but i have the haynes service and maintainance in PDF for the golf mk2 if there is some way to post it as a sticky?
I could always post a link where i got it but im not entirely sure that would be allowed  :lipsrsealed: Bay :smiley:
And no not ebay :rolleyes: :grin:
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: ians on 02 February 2013, 10:37
Get son to sit in the car turning it over. Loosen off dizzy housing before hand (just so you car rotate it) and rotate it whilst he is cranking. Sounds more like a timing issue if you have fuel and spark, it's just the spark is in the wrong place. Does it smell of fuel when cranking and get stronger?

May well need a new hall sender as well.

We tried the dizzy twisting thing last night but it got very dark,cold and windy so called it a night, I did think it started to pop a bit, I'm going to do the whole timing today from scratch as when I went to undo the dizzy it was loose? Which made me think it could have thrown the timing out :/ I'll. Report back
Thanks for all the advice so far
Btw yea plugs are new and gapped according to Haynes
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: ians on 02 February 2013, 12:09
Timing now spot on.....still nothing  :sad:
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: Mr Blue on 02 February 2013, 13:40
Try the ignition moduel that sits ontop of the ECU. You get fuel and spark even when they are faulty and the car wont start.

Sure the timing isnt 180 out?

Had a similar problem a while ago.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Fuel, spark, no go urgent!!
Post by: ians on 02 February 2013, 15:27
Right fingers crossed its sorted :smiley: I swapped the new genuine blue sensor for my old crapy different in one and it's started up first time :cool: so I've tuned her up following RJs guide and it's running better than ever, bit smokey but then it's just been rebuilt and not run properly, so I'll give it a while and put some milage on the clock.
I shall be visiting vw dealership on Monday and voicing my disappointment !!
Thanks all very much indeed  :)