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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Sam on 23 January 2013, 18:08
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Anyone else on here, I know Nick is. I have only just set up my account and it all seems very professional which is nice i.e. the group discussions etc. Just wondered if anyone had any tips on how to get the most out of it?
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the answers on facebook not helpful then :whistle:
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I have one but never on it. The wife is on hers all the time and thinks its great. Will see if she has any and report back.
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It's for self righteous people who love the smell of their own sh!t and love to tell people how good that they think they are.
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its handy if you are looking for work.
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Good for networking with common companies within your profession, also good for job seeking.
Joining groups is simple, but a lot of them do get spammed with rubbish from our friends in the east and southern Asia.
Ultimately it is a place to market yourself to other employers and for people you contact to look you up and see where your experience is.
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It's for self righteous people who love the smell of their own sh!t and love to tell people how good that they think they are.
It's got me 2 jobs mate can't be that bad!!!
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I find it annoying in general
Loads of people want you on their profiles so they look good or are popular, or trying and sell you something and shine you up at the same time mostly pretty young Chinese girls working in marketing.
Latest thing is endorsing peoples skills, people have endorsed me and they don't even know me.....
Public Groups are mostly full of idiots imo, I am in some invite only groups where I personally know the companies and people involved I have dropped form the less fussy groups as I can take the crap spouted by graduate industry noobs :grin:
Basically if you have time to sift through the sh!te it can be useful.
It is good to research who is doing business with who but you cant rely on the validity of how connections between people are made or embellished.
And as said before its full of recruitment agencies trawling for candidates, I get 10/15 hits a week on jobs around the world €90,000 was offered to me to go to Ireland before xmas.
On the whole its a face book for work which takes you away from doing more productive things
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I work in the telcoms and it's pretty good way of keeping in contact with people you have worked with on a professional level. It also promotes your skill sets for employers an contractors. It's kinda like a cv online
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Wont touch it with a barge pole!
I had an account and somehow (probably hacked) my CV got changed.
I told them to delete my account and it took 2 years for them to do it depsite regular reminders!
So I think it is total cr*p!
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i like it... uk.linkedin.com/in/guyfrankland/ (http://uk.linkedin.com/in/guyfrankland/) :smiley:
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No offence, but with a headline like that, just proves what I've been saying.
It's all self awarding, self gratification. Anyone can enter what they like and anyone'll believe it.
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No offence, but with a headline like that, just proves what I've been saying.
It's all self awarding, self gratification. Anyone can enter what they like and anyone'll believe it.
you talking to me? :huh:
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No offence, but with a headline like that, just proves what I've been saying.
It's all self awarding, self gratification. Anyone can enter what they like and anyone'll believe it.
you talking to me? :huh:
OBVIOUSLY.
You're in marketing aren't you, so you must love the smell of your own sh!t and love to tell people how good that they think they are.
Like most of the professional world. Not that any of that would happen in der military.
Like any social media platform it has its weak areas, but if you're in a network of professional people then it's a good way of benefiting both in your job (improved networking) and in the search for your next potential job.
I work with IBM a lot. Given how that landscape can flex LinkedIn is essential in keeping up with who's doing what. You know the first thing most of their sales and marketing team will do when your email drops into their inbox is search for you on LinkedIn.
I don't understand why people in a job above minimum wage wouldn't be on LinkedIn - it maps professional relationships. If you don't see how that's useful then I would be suspicious that either you're an idiot or somewhere on the autistic scale and your talents lie elsewhere.
If your account gets hacked the best thing to do is sort it out and get it back straight. If you're in an industry where LinkedIn is in use the last thing you want someone to find if they look you up is a profile that's been hacked popping up in Google results. Even a deleted hacked profile will echo down the search results for months/years. Over-writing it with valid information is the best way of resolving that, not just shunning the location.
Treat it like any professional resource and only map the network around you who (as it says in the template invite) know and trust. This approach should resolve a lot of the problems people seem to be voicing.
Oh and unless you're desperate for work, make sure you 'I don't know' this person if you get invites from people who you don't know or random recruiters - when they get a certain number of these their account privileges get locked down, even if they're paying for their account.
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No offence, but with a headline like that, just proves what I've been saying.
It's all self awarding, self gratification. Anyone can enter what they like and anyone'll believe it.
you talking to me? :huh:
OBVIOUSLY.
You're in marketing aren't you, so you must love the smell of your own sh!t and love to tell people how good that they think they are.
Like most of the professional world. Not that any of that would happen in der military.
well Christ... i'll make sure to dumb myself down and sell myself as a retard... so that I don't get the job I want and get something paying NWM.. :rolleyes: :grin:
fact is.. when you are being pulled forward for interview you have to have the ability to back up your claims through competency based examples, and if you get the job then of course you have to be able to do it competently, so yeah... anyone can enter what they like and anyone will believe it :rolleyes:
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I did try to make the changes but as my account had been hacked I was locked out!
I then tried in vain to get them to unlock it for 6 months and when they totally ignored me I demanded they remove all my information.
That took them 2 years!
So I say again they are crap!
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Len is not the only person to have had 'customer service' problems.
They also had a well Publicised security breach.
It is a neccesary evil tho. if you are a professional. :huh:
Facebook however :
It's for self righteous people who love the smell of their own sh!t and love to tell people how good that they think they are.
or nosey cnuts.
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or nosey cnuts.
You missed out stalkers.
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In theory it should be the perfect thing for me, I am a professional (Quantity Surveyor) and I do network.
But after the problems I had I just wont on principle rejoin.
Oh and half the problem with their website is if can delete stuff as soon as you go online to check it automatically rejoins you.
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Oh and half the problem with their website is if can delete stuff as soon as you go online to check it automatically rejoins you.
Understand there have been issues with this sort of thing previously. Give in and be assimilated. :tongue:
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Wow this has opened a can of worms
See I'm not a fan of social networkin sites like Facebook or twitter however anything that helps you along with your professional career in my eyes is a win.... As a lot of people say...it's about who you know... Well it is in a lot of places anyway .... And it does what it's meant to do well...
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the answers on facebook not helpful then :whistle:
I am not friends with too many 'profesional people' on facebook so thought I would post on here instead as you are all... erm ... elderly wise
No offence, but with a headline like that, just proves what I've been saying.
It's all self awarding, self gratification. Anyone can enter what they like and anyone'll believe it.
Erm... do you understand how getting work happens? Your not going to get a job with the strapline 'im a massive wayne kerr at times and do like a beer now and then' but you will with 'I'm a young but experienced...', you sell yourself. Putting yourself on a plinth with your badges on and waiting to be shot down is a pretty good way of building a reputation for what you do.
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Erm... do you understand how getting work happens? Your not going to get a job with the strapline 'im a massive wayne kerr at times and do like a beer now and then' but you will with 'I'm a young but experienced...', you sell yourself. Putting yourself on a plinth with your badges on and waiting to be shot down is a pretty good way of building a reputation for what you do.
Yes, CV's, job adverts, apply, they look at CV.
Do you?
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Erm... do you understand how getting work happens? Your not going to get a job with the strapline 'im a massive wayne kerr at times and do like a beer now and then' but you will with 'I'm a young but experienced...', you sell yourself. Putting yourself on a plinth with your badges on and waiting to be shot down is a pretty good way of building a reputation for what you do.
Yes, CV's, job adverts, apply, they look at CV.
Do you?
And at the top of your CV you put a description of yourself, which if you want a job is normally a fairly positive statement bigging yourself up... which is what the header on linkedin is all about
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Erm... do you understand how getting work happens? Your not going to get a job with the strapline 'im a massive wayne kerr at times and do like a beer now and then' but you will with 'I'm a young but experienced...', you sell yourself. Putting yourself on a plinth with your badges on and waiting to be shot down is a pretty good way of building a reputation for what you do.
Yes, CV's, job adverts, apply, they look at CV.
Do you?
And at the top of your CV you put a description of yourself, which if you want a job is normally a fairly positive statement bigging yourself up... which is what the header on linkedin is all about
No it's not. People are forver going onto Linkedin to sniff their own arses.
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Erm... do you understand how getting work happens? Your not going to get a job with the strapline 'im a massive wayne kerr at times and do like a beer now and then' but you will with 'I'm a young but experienced...', you sell yourself. Putting yourself on a plinth with your badges on and waiting to be shot down is a pretty good way of building a reputation for what you do.
Yes, CV's, job adverts, apply, they look at CV.
Do you?
And at the top of your CV you put a description of yourself, which if you want a job is normally a fairly positive statement bigging yourself up... which is what the header on linkedin is all about
No it's not. People are forver going onto Linkedin to sniff their own arses.
I give up. Does anyone have anything productive to say?
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I find it good mate I work in the oil industry Sam and as I previously said I have been contacted several times my previous job was found threw this and my current job has also been found via linkedin and this is the sole purpose I use it for basically online cv and job experience portfolio and seems to work..... Not used like ant describes to sniff my arse.. Regularly get job propositions so if that's what your looking for give it a bash
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And at the top of your CV you put a description of yourself, which if you want a job is normally a fairly positive statement bigging yourself up... which is what the header on linkedin is all about
No it's not. People are forver going onto Linkedin to sniff their own arses.
Dont assume we all do what you do. It serves a purpose and does it well. If you think that the millions of people on there are wrong.... then you need to stop sniffing arses.
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And at the top of your CV you put a description of yourself, which if you want a job is normally a fairly positive statement bigging yourself up... which is what the header on linkedin is all about
No it's not. People are forver going onto Linkedin to sniff their own arses.
Dont assume we all do what you do. It serves a purpose and does it well. If you think that the millions of people on there are wrong.... then you need to stop sniffing arses.
I don't do it. I'm not that self loving, unsure of myself to keep going 'oooooh look at meeeeee'.
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You'll be having fun when you leave the RAF...
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And at the top of your CV you put a description of yourself, which if you want a job is normally a fairly positive statement bigging yourself up... which is what the header on linkedin is all about
No it's not. People are forver going onto Linkedin to sniff their own arses.
Dont assume we all do what you do. It serves a purpose and does it well. If you think that the millions of people on there are wrong.... then you need to stop sniffing arses.
I don't do it. I'm not that self loving, unsure of myself to keep going 'oooooh look at meeeeee'.
nothing to do with self loving. its a networking tool. you have to make yourself stand out.
its not all about what you know but who you know.
not to mention an essential tool for gathering information on people you may be meeting with. aka research.
only a cnut would spend time looking at their own profile once its set up.
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No it's not. People are forver going onto Linkedin to sniff their own arses.
You need to consider possibly you know some weirdos if that's what people you know are doing. The rest of us are using it to further our careers.
You'll be having fun when you leave the RAF...
:grin:
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I refresh my profile every 3 months or so and go on probably once a week to check news, contacts and groups.
As much as we may be against social media it is and will continue to grow as a means of communication / research / networking and places such as linked in will thrive as they are the early adopters of this.
Unfortunately there will always be some who refuse to believe this and it will mean that opportunities will pass them buy. Armed forces are a prime example of this, years of service result to not a lot in the big wide world and there are people on here who will testify to this, and how hard it is to get work.
Saying it's for people who love the big themselves up is both puerile and foolish. People are at the end of the day commodities in their most simplistic form. Some are highly trained in useful subjects, others are not, the tipping point is how you market yourself to the biggest demographic of potential employers. To not do this is only to stunt what is possible to achieve.
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Armed forces are a prime example of this, years of service result to not a lot in the big wide world and there are people on here who will testify to this, and how hard it is to get work.
I totally agree - only for those who joined the wrong trade, don't have/didn't gain professional qualifications during their service. Your career path and education are what helps. Linkedin isn't going to help someone with no real transposable skill set or qualifications. And those who do have the skillset and qualifications will find work easily without linkedin.
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Armed forces are a prime example of this, years of service result to not a lot in the big wide world and there are people on here who will testify to this, and how hard it is to get work.
I totally agree - only for those who joined the wrong trade, don't have/didn't gain professional qualifications during their service. Your career path and education are what helps. Linkedin isn't going to help someone with no real transposable skill set or qualifications. And those who do have the skillset and qualifications will find work easily without linkedin.
And you sir are talking bollox - fact. ( job and skills wise post forces )
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Armed forces are a prime example of this, years of service result to not a lot in the big wide world and there are people on here who will testify to this, and how hard it is to get work.
I totally agree - only for those who joined the wrong trade, don't have/didn't gain professional qualifications during their service. Your career path and education are what helps. Linkedin isn't going to help someone with no real transposable skill set or qualifications. And those who do have the skillset and qualifications will find work easily without linkedin.
And you sir are talking bollox - fact. ( job and skills wise post forces )
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I'm not talking bollocks.
Perfect example is yourself. You found work, sure, but not everyone will right away find work that they wanted. The above is bollocks to say that ex forces people won't find work very easily.
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Not nuts - fact !
Had to help a few mates out too - ex forces closes more doors than it opens !
Enjoy blue suit life while it lasts - civvy street aint the greener side of the fence :lipsrsealed:
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Different people, different stories.
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Different people, different stories.
And the same can be said for LinkedIn :smiley:
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Its not easy finding a job right now no matter how well qualified you are!
So saying that anybody coming out of the Forces with right qualifications and skillset will fall straight into a job is, naive, stupid and completely erroneous!
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Armed forces are a prime example of this, years of service result to not a lot in the big wide world and there are people on here who will testify to this, and how hard it is to get work.
I totally agree - only for those who joined the wrong trade, don't have/didn't gain professional qualifications during their service. Your career path and education are what helps. Linkedin isn't going to help someone with no real transposable skill set or qualifications. And those who do have the skillset and qualifications will find work easily without linkedin.
And you sir are talking bollox - fact. ( job and skills wise post forces )
:smiley:
I'm not talking nuts.
Perfect example is yourself. You found work, sure, but not everyone will right away find work that they wanted. The above is nuts to say that ex forces people won't find work very easily.
All of the above is complete bollocks, the idea of Linkedin is that you create a network of people verifying that you can do what you say you do rather than waving slips of paper. It adds personality to your CV, a whole host of references from people who wouldn't normally reference and the chance to discuss ideas and get yourself known within certain groups and circles. Linkedin creates a level playing field that allows the man at the bottom and the man at the top go head to head for jobs.
If we took an example of say, a bricklayer, you can have a young lad with level 3 or an old boy with nothing but experience under his belt. From a qualifications point of view, the young lad out performs the old man easily but in terms of testimonials, backing and referencing the young lad wont have a patch on the old boy. But as an employee i'm looking for someone to say... rebuild a specific arch type on a big project, the young lad could have done nothing for 1 year but build arches with project x whilst the old boy hasn't done it for years. The CV's of these two people will not talk about specific projects, simply because you don't on a CV, but the linked-in can give all this extra info allowing the employee to make a much better informed decision and providing both parties equal opportunities in terms of employment.
Comprehended?
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Take the old boy every time because he was taught how to do it properly and did a 4 year apprentaship whereas the young bloke only does one years training!!
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Its not easy finding a job right now no matter how well qualified you are!
So saying that anybody coming out of the Forces with right qualifications and skillset will fall straight into a job is, naive, stupid and completely erroneous!
Not really. If you've the right experience in that trade which is relevant to the outside world (I realise not all jobs are) then why don't you have an equal opportunity?
Why wouldn't an air traffic controller (which has the same CAA tickets as a civil controller) not find work? Plenty of opportunity at swanick, gatwick, heathrow.
Why wouldn't a doctor find work? Why wouldn't a radiographer find work?
I could completely understand someone coming out of the Regt having difficulty finding a different job (they have difficulty holding a knife and fork as it is). I could understand a Raf copper not finding exactly what he or she wanted, I could understand someone sat in the admin or support wing having not a clue what to do once left.
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Armed forces are a prime example of this, years of service result to not a lot in the big wide world and there are people on here who will testify to this, and how hard it is to get work.
I totally agree - only for those who joined the wrong trade, don't have/didn't gain professional qualifications during their service. Your career path and education are what helps. Linkedin isn't going to help someone with no real transposable skill set or qualifications. And those who do have the skillset and qualifications will find work easily without linkedin.
And you sir are talking bollox - fact. ( job and skills wise post forces )
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I'm not talking nuts.
Perfect example is yourself. You found work, sure, but not everyone will right away find work that they wanted. The above is nuts to say that ex forces people won't find work very easily.
All of the above is complete nuts, the idea of Linkedin is that you create a network of people verifying that you can do what you say you do rather than waving slips of paper. It adds personality to your CV, a whole host of references from people who wouldn't normally reference and the chance to discuss ideas and get yourself known within certain groups and circles. Linkedin creates a level playing field that allows the man at the bottom and the man at the top go head to head for jobs.
If we took an example of say, a bricklayer, you can have a young lad with level 3 or an old boy with nothing but experience under his belt. From a qualifications point of view, the young lad out performs the old man easily but in terms of testimonials, backing and referencing the young lad wont have a patch on the old boy. But as an employee i'm looking for someone to say... rebuild a specific arch type on a big project, the young lad could have done nothing for 1 year but build arches with project x whilst the old boy hasn't done it for years. The CV's of these two people will not talk about specific projects, simply because you don't on a CV, but the linked-in can give all this extra info allowing the employee to make a much better informed decision and providing both parties equal opportunities in terms of employment.
Comprehended?
A CV with references and employment history can give all the back up you think Linked in only gives. Employment history is on the CV as it is linked in. It just appears that Linked in is just an online social CV network, rather than a pool of CVs that only recruiters can pull out and take a look of.
The CV and linked in, both with employment history and references, so how's linked in better at that? An employer will still want some citation over what's been said.
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Never been fussed about LinkedIn, seems a waste of time and effort. I'm not sure what industries frequent the site but I work in Banking and no one I know (work wise) is on there either.
Having said that, I'm losing my job soon, so that may all change :grin:
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The CV and linked in, both with employment history and references, so how's linked in better at that? An employer will still want some citation over what's been said.
Because with LinkedIn it's all there and in more depth.
And you don't look like a dullard who's stuck in the 20th Century.
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But with linkedin you have to have bed hair, an iPhone and curly toe shoes and I don't want any of that :sad:
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But with linkedin you have to have bed hair, an iPhone and curly toe shoes and I don't want any of that :sad:
That response alone sums up your complete lack of understanding about how LinkedIn works and why you will be nothing more than a troll in here. Locked.
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