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Title: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: dixie180 on 28 December 2012, 14:23
Hi guys need some help please.Drove the car into town and got stuck in traffic,went to move off and car cut out.Wouldn't restart so left it for 20 minutes and it started ok.This is the second time it's happened in 2 weeks and always when the oil temp gets to around 75 degrees.Had the crank sensor changed so i know its not that.
Any ideas.



Rob
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 28 December 2012, 14:50
Hi guys need some help please.Drove the car into town and got stuck in traffic,went to move off and car cut out.Wouldn't restart so left it for 20 minutes and it started ok.This is the second time it's happened in 2 weeks and always when the oil temp gets to around 75 degrees.Had the crank sensor changed so i know its not that.
Any ideas.



Rob

When you say it cut out, Did it just lose all power?, Did the revs go all over the place?

Could be ECU Relay?
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: dixie180 on 28 December 2012, 14:55
Hi.Just cut out and revs just died.Didn't have the flashing oil light syndrome either.It only cuts out when oil temp gets to about 75 degrees.I changed ECU relay and the car ran worse so i put the old one back in.


Rob
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: Luke1981 on 28 December 2012, 15:00
The car shouldn't run worse with a new ecu relay. Did you purchase OEM? Relay number 109 
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 28 December 2012, 15:04
Have u tried a new ECU Temp sensor?? Try starting it with this plugged out?
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: dixie180 on 28 December 2012, 15:11
Yeah ECU relay 30 and new one is white,the old one which is still in the fuse box is black.Where is the ECU temp sensor.The only temp sensor i know of is in front of the block above the oil filter ?.Sorry forgot to say new one is from VW.


Rob
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 28 December 2012, 15:13
Yeah ECU relay 30 and new one is white,the old one which is still in the fuse box is black.Where is the ECU temp sensor.The only temp sensor i know of is in front of the block above the oil filter ?.Sorry forgot to say new one is from VW.


Rob

It on-top of the water flange, the one which is infront of the engine block, Its got a 4 pin connector
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: dixie180 on 28 December 2012, 15:15
Yeah changed that and its original VW.Always had a problem with the temp not sitting at 90 but have put that down to worn thermostat.



Rob
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 28 December 2012, 15:16
touch the relays after driving the car for 10-15 mins, they should be warm to touch, if they are cold, you then have a duff relay.

The fuel pump relay is also common to naff up, Keep an eye on them.
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 28 December 2012, 15:18
Have you had the car on VAG-COM?? to see if any faults are showing up??
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: dixie180 on 28 December 2012, 15:20
Would it be duff if the car starts first time every time.Car drives great except when the temp gets hot then the cutting out starts.
No never had it on a VAG-COM.Thought the problem was over when i had the cranks sensor changed.


Rob
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 28 December 2012, 16:01
Run it on vag com and see if something comes up. But most likely it wont. :drool:
and by the sounds of it, you've replaced the parts which would make it cut out, so i dont know what else to guess tbh
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: dixie180 on 28 December 2012, 16:05
Yeah i'm running out of ideas too :cry:.Just a quick question is the ECU relay no 30 or 109 on Mk3 8v ADY engine.?



Rob
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 28 December 2012, 16:07
Yeah i'm running out of ideas too :cry:.Just a quick question is the ECU relay no 30 or 109 on Mk3 8v ADY engine.?



Rob

LOL, i Wouldn't know, I've been thinking yours is an AGG all along, I dont have a clue what it would be on a ADY. I've PM'd you
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 28 December 2012, 16:46
sell it
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: dixie180 on 28 December 2012, 16:58
LOL.Not an option m8 as i don't have any other wheels or spare cash to buy another.


Rob
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 28 December 2012, 16:59
lol was joking, u got VW specialist near u
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: dixie180 on 28 December 2012, 17:08
The guy i use to do any work on my Golf.He changed the crank sensor when i had a "cutting out with flashing oil light" issue a few months back.But now i've got the cutting out issue back but without the flashing oil light.


Rob
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: Screech16v on 28 December 2012, 19:37
Genuine crank sensor?  as cheap ones are crap.
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: dixie180 on 28 December 2012, 19:48
Yeah £83 genuine. :grin:.Car has run ok on short runs since being fitted but cuts out when oil temp gets to about 75 and has happened both times when sat in traffic and water temp has got up to 90 degrees.Water temp never gets up to 90 normally only when sat in traffic or slow moving.


Rob
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: dixie180 on 06 January 2013, 17:00
Right,just had diagnostics done.This was all that showed up.Sunday,06,January,2013,15:15:23:53553
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.5 (x64)
Data version: 20121222



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Chassis Type: 1H - VW Golf/Vento III
Scan: 01 02 03 08 12 15 25 41 56
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 037-906-025-ADY.lbl
   Part No: 037 906 025 A
   Component: SIMOS 4S           1823 
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 112972C55BB84B90BE2

1 Fault Found:
00520 - Air Mass / Air Flow Sensor (G70)/(G19)
            31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Readiness: N/A

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3A0-907-379.lbl
   Part No: 3A0 907 379
   Component: ABS     ITTAE 20 GI V00 
   Coding: 03604
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: E7DDFC1D85BC6520006

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6N0-909-60x-VW2.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 603 E
   Component: AIRBAG VW2          V00 
   Coding: 00069
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 3467DB5104EA5EB8F54

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1H0-953-257.lbl
   Part No: 1H0 953 257 B
   Component: IMMO VWZ3Z0S1340039 V00 
   Coding: 09600
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 2A5BC529D62E18485F8

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------

Ignore the Air Flow Sensor as i had unplugged that.Had faults cleared and diagnostics re-run.Air Flow Sensor didn't show up second time around.

Any clues???


Rob
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: dixie180 on 14 January 2013, 22:25
Right chaps quick update.
Took the MAF off and gave it a good clean,took off the top and bottom breather hoses and cleaned all the gunk out,gave the throttle body another good clean out and took the K&N induction kit off and cleaned the filter.Got the VAGCOM done to re-align the throttle body.
The response is unbelievable and quite a bit more umph through the gears.Gonna let the car idle for a while and see if the stalling issue has gone.Lets just say that if everything is ok i'm a very happy chap :cool: :cool:.
Anyone with similar issues definitely get the VAGCOM to re-align the throttle body cus it WILL make a difference especially if you've cleaned the throttle body out.


Rob
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 15 January 2013, 10:08
Right chaps quick update.
Took the MAF off and gave it a good clean,took off the top and bottom breather hoses and cleaned all the gunk out,gave the throttle body another good clean out and took the K&N induction kit off and cleaned the filter.Got the VAGCOM done to re-align the throttle body.
The response is unbelievable and quite a bit more umph through the gears.Gonna let the car idle for a while and see if the stalling issue has gone.Lets just say that if everything is ok i'm a very happy chap :cool: :cool:.
Anyone with similar issues definitely get the VAGCOM to re-align the throttle body cus it WILL make a difference especially if you've cleaned the throttle body out.


Rob

Great Stuff, Fingers Crossed  :wink:
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: dixie180 on 15 January 2013, 19:31
Yeah fingers crossed indeed. :grin: :grin:.Thanks for the recommendation m8,his advice was spot on.


Rob
Title: Re: Grrrrrrr cut out again.
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 15 January 2013, 20:57
Yeah fingers crossed indeed. :grin: :grin:.Thanks for the recommendation m8,his advice was spot on.


Rob

Any time buddy.  :wink: