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General => General discussion => Topic started by: whileoceanasleeps on 20 December 2012, 16:00
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I have such a rubbish tool kit, I never have the right tool for anything, so frustrating. well screw it I thought I'm treating myself for Xmas and getting a 127pc halfords professional tool set to treat myself for Xmas, pick it up tonight :) FINALLY!
what are all your tool kits like?
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I got a lot of bahco tools. I rate them highly. My tool collection has taken years to build up and don't buy cheap tools.
My old man is always buying new socket sets, because theyre cheap and break. I've bought one set and hopefully last me till I die.
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I started with a Halfrauds set 20 years ago... Never let me down..
When I started back again I went and bought their 200 pcs set and it's brilliant... Life Time Exchange too...
I also bought a big Sealey set now with more specialist tools but still use the halfrauds on a daily basis...
But like said buy quality...
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I have a mixture of Halfords/Halfords Professional, Sealey, Laser, Draper and Snap-on. I've bought a few cheap bits n bobs in the past but most never last.
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Minus a torque wrench and the correct size spline piece needed for headbolts and bottom end shells the halfords 120piece socket set rebuilt my engine :smiley: good tools
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i just use my brothers! he`s got about 10k`s worth of snap on tools!
he is a mechanic!
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I've got a 150 piece set from costco. Its awsome, really good quality and has a lifetime warranty, and was only about £70 I think. (Was a birthday present). I've bought a few bits here and there over the years, from the odd snap on spanner in the most common sizes (13, 15, 17mm), to the cheap type stuff (Draper Expert) that I'm not too fussed about.
A good multi piece set is the best way to start, then just build up as and when you need things imo. Get a big cheap tool box from B&Q or something, so you can just chuck random bits you acquire in it. Simples. :smiley:
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I have a mixture of Halfords/Halfords Professional, Sealey, Laser, Draper and Snap-on. I've bought a few cheap bits n bobs in the past but most never last.
+1 :kiss:
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I've got stacks of tools, most are over my dads as my flat is brimming with DIY stuff :grin:
I rate Stahlwille over most had tools http://www.stahlwille.de/ they make the best torque wrenches ever.
My dad has so many tools, I stand to inherit the best set of spanners this side of the peco's
Both of us were toolmakers so have lots of precision self made kit and specialist equipment in fancy wooden boxes :rolleyes:
I have a set of Britool spanners and a few halfwits sockets in the boot for keeping the Mk3 afloat :grin:
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a cheep 1/2" ratchet once cost me thousands
i gave it some stick, it broke followed by my finger / knuckel. chouldnt do much very quick with spanners for several weeks after that. :sad:
relaceing all my crap tools with top end stuff at the time would have actualy been cheeper :shocked:
but there will allways be a tool you want/need/don't have and the more tools you get the worse it gets
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but there will allways be a tool you want/need/don't have and the more tools you get the worse it gets
Amen
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Snap-on . Mac .halfords pro . Sealey anything with a warranty ,
Only thing I refuse to spend money on is a £2500 box , so my £359.99 Costco box does the job 10x better !
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CK tools deserve a big up
snapped a ball end allen key removing a 1.8T sump (the ball bit broke off in the bolt luckily it had cracked the bolt at the same time.
Anyhow, back of the packet it came in said warranty against workmanship.. even tho the tool in question had taken some serious abuse and at the time of breakage i had a bar hanging off it. a quick email and they sent me a FREE replacement out within a couple of days
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but there will allways be a tool you want/need/don't have and the more tools you get the worse it gets
Amen
Hmmm, sounds very familiar.
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CK tools deserve a big up
snapped a ball end allen key removing a 1.8T sump (the ball bit broke off in the bolt luckily it had cracked the bolt at the same time.
Anyhow, back of the packet it came in said warranty against workmanship.. even tho the tool in question had taken some serious abuse and at the time of breakage i had a bar hanging off it. a quick email and they sent me a FREE replacement out within a couple of days
Your only meant to use the ball end once the bolt is loose.
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I think you need to in this instance though due to the depth and angle.
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I think you need to in this instance though due to the depth and angle.
I use 1/4" Allen sockets on a elbow and extension then T bar :lipsrsealed:
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Same as mate, not sure if the access is slightly more restricted on the 1.8T sumps in comparison to an ABF sump for example?
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Yeah more than likely a complete ball ache :lipsrsealed:
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Mainly snap on stuff. But things like hammer/chissels etc just cheapy stuff. Need decent tools for my work though.
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The halfords kits get a big thumbs up for me, more than enough for the car enthusiast. Warrantee aswell! :smiley:
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Just got a 1/2" drive kit and a 1/4" drive kit from my dad.
Bahco. Such quality tools and I've never found a better tool box.
He likes his CK stuff and CK is bloody solid.
I'll be getting a 170 piece Halfords pro set soon as well. Not really into Snap-On anymore. I like their screwdrivers but that's about it.
Also had an 80 tooth (IIRC) 1/4" ratchet that was good cause needed barely any movement to click.
I like Snap-On gear, just think it's WAY too overpriced. This Bahco set as a Snap-On would have cost about £300. Plus I found Snap-On to get proper arsey when anything broke.
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Also got loads of cheap sh!te which I use to abuse.
Sockets you don't mind smashing over things like locking wheel bolts etc and abusing. Most of the stuff I've been given etc.
I did buy a £25 quid ratchet with lifetime warranty from SC Motor Factors once in an emergency and that thing has had huge bars hanging off of the thing and still never given up yet. Been well impressed for £25.
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been using the halfords set for a couple of days and I can't tell you all how nice it is to have the right tools! :)
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I've got a couple tools....
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Which is currently all picked up ready to be shipped to Oz.
I've got a mixture of snap on, mac tools, bacho, britool, facom, stahlwille tools and halfords.
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I think you need to in this instance though due to the depth and angle.
I use 1/4" Allen sockets on a elbow and extension then T bar :lipsrsealed:
ok smart arse id lke you to try with a 1.8T engine mated to a mk4 box, :grin:
On a serious note, its NOT possible unless you remove gearbox.. you HAVE to use the ball end, torque is only 15lbft tho, however this one was very stubborn
you need it for 3 bolts on that side, absolutly no other way
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I think you need to in this instance though due to the depth and angle.
I use 1/4" Allen sockets on a elbow and extension then T bar :lipsrsealed:
ok smart arse id lke you to try with a 1.8T engine mated to a mk4 box, :grin:
On a serious note, its NOT possible unless you remove gearbox.. you HAVE to use the ball end, torque is only 15lbft tho, however this one was very stubborn
you need it for 3 bolts on that side, absolutly no other way
:grin: :grin: nah ill leave that for you to do
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use what works at the time.
the harshest job on spanners i've found yet it dropping the flywheel of various old ferraris with the engine / box still in car. there isn't much room and its FT, it even spreads the jaws on the "spectial spanner" desinged for the job. to be fair to snap-on got a 2nd hand one of there's and it's done a few for me and proably meany more for others and its still good.
the old snap on at 2nd hand prices i have a lot of time for the new stuff dosent seem to be all that allong with been bloody expensive on top of that the sales rep here is a twit.
anyway the Xmas tool audit has started, have been gathering up my tools since wendsay but over the last few months been that busy not cleaned the ws so it got into a right state so the pixes have run riot and been hideing all the tools so ive just been buying more and the pixes have been hideing them to.
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I think you need to in this instance though due to the depth and angle.
I use 1/4" Allen sockets on a elbow and extension then T bar :lipsrsealed:
ok smart arse id lke you to try with a 1.8T engine mated to a mk4 box, :grin:
On a serious note, its NOT possible unless you remove gearbox.. you HAVE to use the ball end, torque is only 15lbft tho, however this one was very stubborn
you need it for 3 bolts on that side, absolutly no other way
:grin: :grin: nah ill leave that for you to do
:grin: so kind :laugh:
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Agreed, there is no other way to get those sump bolts out
Halfords tool set here for me too, hasn't let me down yet
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My tool kits are Snap on, Bluepoint, Signet and Draper, I like Bluepoint the most as it is the most comprehensive set for torx, hex and deep sockets and the Signet set second.
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Anyone recommend a decent torque wrench?
My one has gone inside and although the insides are easily replaceable would rather just get a new decent one.
Cheers.
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What size? I got a draper
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This seems good :huh:
[urlhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-Siegen-1-2-Sq-Drive-Reversible-Micrometer-Ratchet-Torque-Wrench-14-204Nm-/221160260407?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item337e2dc337][/url]
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Anyone recommend a decent torque wrench?
My one has gone inside and although the insides are easily replaceable would rather just get a new decent one.
Cheers.
Halfrauds
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Torque wrench... Halfords got one last month with trade discount for £39.99 :cool:
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Cheers guys I'll have a look.
Tweed that one has a decent range actually!
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watch they torque wrenches with large ranges they tend to be less accurate.
one tool i'm finding becomeing more and more usefull is the 1/4 torque wrench, a lot of things are going down the route of meany small bolts in ali castings and not very tight, like 30 M6's at like 10n/m and you can bet your life overtorque any and it'll distort and leack.
in 3/8 and 1/2 i now use a pair of torque wrenches for each size. mainly for accuracy / range
frount pullys ect can need a fair wack of torque often past 250 ft lb's so use a high capacity one for those and wheel nuts and a lower capacity but more accurate one for the more fussy stuff
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I got quite a few... been building it all up for 20 years. Mainly Snap-on, Facom, Beta and Bluepoint.
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Wow nice collection! I need a decent roll cab.
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would you guys say it's necessary to own a torque wrench and where would you most use one? i've never used one
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if you need a torque wrench entirely depends on what you plan on takeing apart.
torques are specifyed for most bolts holding relativly inportant things together so of thesse things are more fussy than others.
things involving bareings and large sealing faces a torque wrench is a good idea/nessesity . epenging on how good you are at judgeing torque.
a lot of bolts like holding engeins and box / engine mounts wishbones ect most people do up somewhere between tight and f**king tight
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would you guys say it's necessary to own a torque wrench and where would you most use one? i've never used one
If your doing your own servicing and light mechanics then yes I'd say you need a tourque wrench.
When I first got my 1.8T I got my mechanic friend to do the cam belt and tensioner (as you do) no problem there. Anyone who's done this will know you need to remove the top engine mount to do this job. 3 months later my engine mount bolt to block failed and dragged the belt into the mount nearly ripping it into shreds!!
On inspection the thread was loose in the block ????
New engine mount, bolt set, cam belt and tensioner later ££?? It was tourqed to the correct rating but he'd forgot to do the extra 90 degree pull on each bolt (first time round) I check it every so often now and its minty moo but without a tourque wrench, a setting and the correct angle pull it only takes a bolt to work a little loose and bang.......
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would you guys say it's necessary to own a torque wrench and where would you most use one? i've never used one
if you're looking for one Sealey have just announced a sale & the prices look good...
http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?id=26&method=mPromotionTitlesCurrent
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Cheaper torque wrenches must not be left with the spring loaded or used to undo, if you do then they become just a long ratchet handle.
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Cheaper torque wrenches must not be left with the spring loaded or used to undo, if you do then they become just a long ratchet handle.
i learnt that the hard way and broke a 7ft wheel nut wrench at work, went to change a tyre on a bus and forgot extension.thought the tw would be fine till the thing went crack and twisted.
nice £500 bill for accounts :whistle: and a £100 tow for the bus
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to be fair, when have most people checked the calibration on there own torque wrench :whistle:
and most will have left them loaded up at some point :lipsrsealed:
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have to have them checked all to often, sadly there usally about f**ked then as well.
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understandably knowing the grief you will give them danny :laugh: :grin: :whistle:
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i cant be that nasty to things ........ the passat is still alive :shocked: done some miles to
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My tool kit thats about to go on Ebay
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Think i'll be spending the next few days cleaning it & sorting them all out
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Manoskop (Stahlwille) torque wrenches are the best, going past the click, undoing or leaving it set does it no damage.
Not cheap, I got mine free :cool:
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to be fair, when have most people checked the calibration on there own torque wrench :whistle:
and most will have left them loaded up at some point :lipsrsealed:
I bet there is only a few organisations in the world who 'check' their torque wrenches, and even then they usually get penned up! :lipsrsealed:...Unless it is the seat kit :whistle:
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to be fair, when have most people checked the calibration on there own torque wrench :whistle:
and most will have left them loaded up at some point :lipsrsealed:
I bet there is only a few organisations in the world who 'check' their torque wrenches, and even then they usually get penned up! :lipsrsealed:...Unless it is the seat kit :whistle:
Mr Scarr, you should know that all our testing and precision equipment gets sent off for calibration WITHOUT FAIL when required! I was the GPTME custodian on my last ship, and its an absolute ball ache! I very much doubt precision equipment gets checked by most other agencies, but electrical test equipment (which is ultimately a safety device by default) should be tested by law.
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to be fair, when have most people checked the calibration on there own torque wrench :whistle:
and most will have left them loaded up at some point :lipsrsealed:
I bet there is only a few organisations in the world who 'check' their torque wrenches, and even then they usually get penned up! :lipsrsealed:...Unless it is the seat kit :whistle:
Mr Scarr, you should know that all our testing and precision equipment gets sent off for calibration WITHOUT FAIL when required! I was the GPTME custodian on my last ship, and its an absolute ball ache! I very much doubt precision equipment gets checked by most other agencies, but electrical test equipment (which is ultimately a safety device by default) should be tested by law.
The stealership I work in have our equipment calibrated every 6months
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to be fair, when have most people checked the calibration on there own torque wrench :whistle:
and most will have left them loaded up at some point :lipsrsealed:
I bet there is only a few organisations in the world who 'check' their torque wrenches, and even then they usually get penned up! :lipsrsealed:...Unless it is the seat kit :whistle:
Mr Scarr, you should know that all our testing and precision equipment gets sent off for calibration WITHOUT FAIL when required! I was the GPTME custodian on my last ship, and its an absolute ball ache! I very much doubt precision equipment gets checked by most other agencies, but electrical test equipment (which is ultimately a safety device by default) should be tested by law.
Been there done that got a load of old torque wrenches that were out of limits during Monthly cal checks :whistle:
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Got a Halfords Pro one today as repaired my old one and it re-shattered during a 180nm torque session. I then took the old one apart and put an arc welder to it which kept tripping the crappy 15amp breaker wired up to two garages and a BIG pool pump. :huh: It now resides as another 1/2" breaker bar.
I had a Honda Civic to do a cambelt on. I made a tool up for it rather then ordering and waiting for one.
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Excuse the building works going on in the background.
Cut to size:
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This is the bugger:
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Works PERFECTLY:
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Used the remaining 50mm box section on that tiny 1/2" angled thing whatever it's original use was for and undid straight away. Heard the snap and thought one of the extensions had gone but was fine.
Need some more 3/4" and 1" extensions and sockets.
The eagle eyed may notice the nut is slightly facing downwards. Allows it to sit flush on the chassis legs. Bit of a guess bit it worked. Cleaned the nasty welds up and gonna paint it and keep it.