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General => General discussion => Topic started by: pottinger on 11 December 2012, 19:11
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Lookin to replace a Volvo xc90
Wife wants range rover sport OR Audi q7
1 to 2 years old, diesel, auto etc, anyone any advice thoughts or experiences ? Not sure I want to go back from 7 seats to the 5 in the range rover so tick in the box for q7 :laugh:
Any advice welcomed fellas
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Potts
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Go buy her a Golf MK7.... :grin:
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Tried to persuade her that already lol she's having none of it :cry:
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Q7 over the RRS any day - I prefer the styling and the interior is better IMO
Friend bought a 3.0TDi Q7 - 2 year old and it had a few minor niggles after he bought it - rattling trim; sticking sunroof etc. and the dealer sorted it all for him.
As the part for the sunroof kept on being incorrectly delivered he ended up driving around in their demo Q7 for 5 or 6 weeks
His is in black and it looks beastly - newer ones with the LED strips on the front look nice in white or dark grey.
Can't remember what he said he was getting MPG but I know it was low 30s
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Range Rover Sport any day of the week.
Interior is much better...Q7 looks just like any Audi. The ride in the Range Rover is in a different league, it handles better, it's head and shoulders above the Audi in terms of looks, I always get the impression a Q7 looks like an off road hearse. And the RRS has off road ability, which in the very least guarantees you'll get to work when it snows.
If you can find one, although they're rare, the TDV8 was carried into the facelift RRS briefly. It's only got a tiny bit more power from the 3.0 V6, and costs a bit more to run, but that engine is a perfect match for that vehicle, and offers a lot of scope for a remap.
I've driven both extensively and the Range Rover felt special...the Audi felt like all other diesel Audi's...boring.
If you're desperate for 7 seats...better still than the RRS, the Discovery.
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or get the nest in the class.... the x5 :cool: the only one that drives like it should
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Rangie!! Just get one in warranty. Dont be tempted by an early 2.7
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Cheers fellas head says q7 heart says rrs .....
Or I could tell her tough keep your Volvo cos I'm changing the gti to a ed35 :shocked: :evil: :whistle:
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Have to agree the X5 is a damned nice vehicle.
Range seems a bit boring to me tbh.
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Have to agree the X5 is a damned nice vehicle.
Range seems a bit boring to me tbh.
Ultimate comfort though!! I do guess its just a discovery in a dress though! :grin:
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It is a Discovery in dress...but an X5 is a 5 series, made worse by jacking it up. Q7 likewise.
What's the point in having a 4x4 that was never intended to have the capability of a 4x4.
Plus the Discovery is widely acknowledged, and has been since 2004 by the press around the world to be the best large 4x4.
BMW and Audi 4x4's are all talk and no trousers I'm afraid.
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I didn't see the point in having a 4x4 until I got this Rav to flog on. Driving it is so comfortable and the high up position is actually really good.
I can imagine owning an X5 wouldn't be the worse thing in the world.
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It is a Discovery in dress...but an X5 is a 5 series, made worse by jacking it up. Q7 likewise.
What's the point in having a 4x4 that was never intended to have the capability of a 4x4.
Plus the Discovery is widely acknowledged, and has been since 2004 by the press around the world to be the best large 4x4.
BMW and Audi 4x4's are all talk and no trousers I'm afraid.
The key question here is what percentage of time do any of these spent being driven off road. If its anything more than less than 5% then the BMW wins by a country mile.
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Discovery is 7 seats, if that's a tick in your boxes.
You won't look quite such a c*nt either, although it's marginal.
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Lol cheers fellas
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My inlaws have a Subaru Tribeca, which is a 7 seater softroader with a 3.0 V6. A luxury barge, it wallows around, uses too much fuel. It's got all the toys, sat nav, reversing camera, rear DVD player and the like.
Their justifications are that a) they use it for towing a caravan (so it does actually go off road) and b) my mother in law can't easily lower herself into normal height cars.
Frankly with a 70 yr old behind the wheel it's a tad dangerous, something that heavy with that much power and a driver that's not so good at spotting hazards :grin:
Personally I don't see the point. If you need the ground clearance to go off road, fair enough. But otherwise you might as well just get a better driving saloon or estate. And if you need 4 wheel drive for grip in snow or up hills or towing, just buy the 4wd version.
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I wouldn't have any of the above . for me it a Land cruiser v8 diesel anyday of the week .... I you have £64K
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I wouldn't have any of the above . for me it a Land cruiser v8 diesel anyday of the week .... I you have £64K
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Now your really havin a laugh and sure to look a proper Kn*b , get the x5 or the Porsche cayenne :wink:
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Range Rover Sport any day of the week.
If you're desperate for 7 seats...better still than the RRS, the Discovery.
Pushing the LR pretty hard there :laugh:
Location Warwickshire? Wouldn't happen to be Gaydon would it?
I've have a Disco too.
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I wouldn't have any of the above . for me it a Land cruiser v8 diesel anyday of the week .... I you have £64K
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Now your really havin a laugh and sure to look a proper Kn*b , get the x5 or the Porsche cayenne :wink:
Where I work we have a customer who has a range rover and a land cruiser Both new And she would rather drie her land cruiser !
Cayenne is a weapon ! Great in snow and twin turbo v8 all for 10k ,
although they are riddled with problems my old mans has done 140k now and yes I spend a lot of the time under the bonnet ....
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Range Rover Sport any day of the week.
If you're desperate for 7 seats...better still than the RRS, the Discovery.
Pushing the LR pretty hard there :laugh:
Location Warwickshire? Wouldn't happen to be Gaydon would it?
I've have a Disco too.
Good spot :wink:
But no I don't work for LR. I actually think some of their new stuff makes you look as much of a c*nt as an X5 or Q7.
We've had plenty in the past though, and I think all things considered, a pre 2011 Discovery 4 is the best all round vehicle on the road. Number of reasons for this, and I'm sure I'll get some flack for it!
It's ok saying the X5 is the only one that drives 'properly'. What's properly? If you're referring to relatively uncomfortable (compared to the Disco, Range Rovers and a 5 Series) then yes it does that very well. If you're referring to wallowy (compared to a 5 series) then yes it's very good at that as well. It's just a big 5 Series with none of the benefits of being a tall 4wd vehicle.
The X5 is an excellent example of a car that just mixes all the disadvantages of 2 types of car with no benefits. The driving position isn't as good as Land Rovers, the ride is uncomfortably firm, it uses as much fuel as a big 4x4, yet is slower than the much more frugal 5 Series...the list goes on.
I usually take what Clarkson says with a pinch of salt, but this sums it up properly....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UwOBKSHl-c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UwOBKSHl-c)
Just to back up my views further...I used to work for BMW :whistle: