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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: pottinger on 29 November 2012, 11:37
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Hey all, not posted in a while but thought I would over this.
My car (standard 2011 GTI DSG) went into the dealers for a week and they lent me a ed35 2012 DSG with 19' glens.
BEFORE this experience I would have said the standard GTI for me every time.
Strange but after 20 minutes of driving the ed35 I was not very impressed at all. I even felt it was slower (less nippy) and just didnt feel right, dont shoot me yet ed35 owners.
The leather over my tartan cloth i didnt like
The stereo not having Dynaudio i didnt like
The 19' glendales i wasnt keen on
SO, a week later where the first impressions right ????
Being honest, I dont think they where.
After a week of hearing the different engine note of the ed35 (more growly) i have to admit my standard GTI lacks in this area. Not hugely, but enough to notice, however I prefer the sound of the DSG gearchanges on hard acceleration on the standard one, dont ask why, just you can hear the box/blip/burp type thing lol
The slower/less nippy comment is kind of correct depending on the way you drive, light footed point and squirt seems quicker in my standard but the "I want a bootfull of go" and the ed35 clearly has the edge.
I have massively warmed to the ed35 in this respect, more so than I thought I would.
Leather / Tartan - thats my choice and not a model specific problem, same with stereo BUT if I was ticking the options list Dynaudio is an absolute no brainer for me, it kicks than standard stereos arse 10x over - order it.
Reversing camera I previously thought was a gimmick and would never have ticked it on the option list, having tried it I would say it would beone of the first things I would tick on that list now :shocked:
19' glendales I now like. Actually the whole overall appearance has grown on me enough over the week to see a shift from the standard GTI on shadows having a tiny edge (and I mean tiny) on looks, to the ed35 having that TINY edge.
The ED35 had the adjustable ride (not sure what its called) comfort / normal / sport and I would order this as an option if it was my choice ESPECIALLY for motorway driving, it transforms the ride to being far more relaxed.
so AFTER this experience did I change my mind ? YES.
Would I change my standard GTI ? NO (the differences arent marked enough for me JUST TO CHANGE my year old standard GTI let alone the fuel economy drop)
Would I pick a ED35 over the standard GTI if I had that as a new car choice ? YES (but only just and my only reserve would be could I live with an engine notably louder than the standard GTI each and every day ? - probably... :wink:)
So, there you have it, a completely non-professional review on something I thought may be of interest. Just goes to show they are very very good cars (I kinda wish they hadnt loaned me the car now :grin:)
cheers
og
PS
Ment to also say, one thing i rearly DO NOT LIKE is the golf ball dsg gearstick, original is way nicer :smiley:
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Nice review, some good points. Have not driven an ED35 myself. But agree i dont think it gives enough performance and looks gain to change from a standard GTI.
But if i was starting from scratch i think i would pay that little more for one over a standard GTI.
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Nice open honest review. Not having ever driven a standard GTI I can't comment but good post :smiley:
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So what's the average mpg in a ed35
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Nice honest review there pottinger...be good for peeps considering the ED35 to read!
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Well I've had both and must say the ED35 is the better motor... :smiley:
It may cost a bit more, but with every penny, nice note about her and not a lot of them on the road....
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"It may cost a bit more, but with every penny, nice note about her and not a lot of them on the road..."
Id defo agree with that Murray on not many around!!
Not looking forward to the TAX sting though........ :angry:
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"It may cost a bit more, but with every penny, nice note about her and not a lot of them on the road..."
Id defo agree with that Murray on not many around!!
Not looking forward to the TAX sting though........ :angry:
What's the tax on these bad boys then?
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£250 just done mine.
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I paid £165 on a Swift 1.5 a couple of years back so £85 more on a ED35 ain't to bad I my eyes...
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Justed taxed my standard GTI and that is now £195 for the year, it was £150 when i did it a year ago. They keep changing those bands.
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Am i missing something???
Reason i'm about to cry come Feb is the tax disc on my car say £450????????????. :cry:
Got it as 2nd owner from Garage having pre-reg in March 12 but i got it with 13miles on clock late June and once private reg change, it clearly says £450 on the repacement disc WTF :huh:????
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Justed taxed my standard GTI and that is now £195 for the year, it was £150 when i did it a year ago. They keep changing those bands.
What mk gti do you have? Mk6 has never been £150......
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Just went out and checked mine says £455....oh dear...time to sell and get a diesel... :cry:
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The £455 is the first year rate as it was a new car, after that the ED35 is in band I for the DSG and band J for the manual which is £215 and £250 respectively, the DSG just gets into a band lower than the manual.
The standard GTI is £195 now as i taxed mine yesterday, so not to much more for the ED35 especially if you have a DSG.
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Could have sworn i paid £150 last year for my MK6 GTI tax, very wrong it only went up £5 to £195 this year. Just checked on the gov web sight.
Oh well, not so bad then.
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Iirc the gti started at 165-170 a year then has gone up ever since.
Other posters don't make the mistake of mixing the new first year tax for new cars with the amount it will cost in yhe second year the amount is different due to the tax on new cars.
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Iirc the gti started at 165-170 a year then has gone up ever since.
Other posters don't make the mistake of mixing the new first year tax for new cars with the amount it will cost in yhe second year the amount is different due to the tax on new cars.
Also known as "showroom tax".
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good little write up as 35 is a grower, you can get caught napping in the K04 at lower revs when off boost compared to the IHI in stock mk6 GTI, only drive mine once or twice a week at the moment but always puts a smile on my face
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Eyeball phew thanks for info :smiley:
Didnt know about this "new car tax hike", When did that happen?
I saw it on the tax disc and thougth WOW does the DVLA think i bought a supercar or something. I hadn't noticed the car tax til my own replacement disc came through with £445 on it. I thought WOW thats a bit steep
so now is it Govt squeezes more money from new reg in 1st year then it drops to something slightly more sensible in 2nd year? and by other posts £250 a year :huh:
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Interesting write up and very similar to my thoughts when changing from my Mk 5 GTi to an ED30.
It sounds like VW have managed to sell you a few more expensive options on your next Golf too :laugh:
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Eyeball phew thanks for info :smiley:
Didnt know about this "new car tax hike", When did that happen?
I saw it on the tax disc and thougth WOW does the DVLA think i bought a supercar or something. I hadn't noticed the car tax til my own replacement disc came through with £445 on it. I thought WOW thats a bit steep
so now is it Govt squeezes more money from new reg in 1st year then it drops to something slightly more sensible in 2nd year? and by other posts £250 a year :huh:
It's always been there its part of the OTR costs regardless of what the car is the first year is always dearer.
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It's my own fault for impulse buying my GTi, but in hindsight I really wish I had gone for the ED35, was completely unaware it existed :embarrassed:
We were actually in the market for an ED30 and my wife fell in love with our GTi at the dealership and here we are 7 months later with me planning K04 mods.... :rolleyes:
Great read OP :cool:
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I saw a Steel Grey ED35 5 dr yesterday 62 reg, didn't like it at all, looked too fussy with the darker standard alloys (my old black one looked much classier), but maybe it was the colour as i don't think the Steel Grey suits the mk6 in gti form imo.
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It's always been there its part of the OTR costs regardless of what the car is the first year is always dearer.
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Cheers Ginge :smiley:
I accept now that it is and aware of OTR price. Ive had many new cars and don't recall in all the cars I've bought new over the last 12 years that it was higher 1st year.
So its a TAX on a TAX but which year then did it kick in?
Ive no recollection of this as any previous 1st year tax for new cars I've bought being so significantly different......
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It's always been there its part of the OTR costs regardless of what the car is the first year is always dearer.
Cheers Ginge :smiley:
I accept now that it is and aware of OTR price. Ive had many new cars and don't recall in all the cars I've bought new over the last 12 years that it was higher 1st year.
So its a TAX on a TAX but which year then did it kick in?
Ive no recollection of this as any previous 1st year tax for new cars I've bought being so significantly different......
1st April 2010 see link below for more info or Google showroom tax.
http://m.whatcar.com/car-news/-showroom-tax-goes-live/248643
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Cheers Snoop
I didnt think it was always there but now i defo know and from when.......
Dick Turpin Govt screws the car driver every turn :angry:.......