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Title: getting wheels aligned after lowering
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 28 November 2012, 13:27
i went to a garage to get the tracking done now my new suspension has worn in and the guy told me he couldn't do it cos he needed to know the new specifications? I have no idea what I'm supposed to tell him?
Title: Re: getting wheels aligned after lowering
Post by: VW BUSH on 28 November 2012, 13:34
Thanks very much for your time I will take it somewhere else thank you.
Title: Re: getting wheels aligned after lowering
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 28 November 2012, 14:12
aha so i need to take it somewhere they know what they're doing
Title: Re: getting wheels aligned after lowering
Post by: Diamond Hell on 28 November 2012, 14:25
I think that would be a good idea.

TBH you want everything stock, but with -0.5 degrees camber on the front.
Title: Re: getting wheels aligned after lowering
Post by: JC on 28 November 2012, 18:38
www.alignmycar.co.uk

 :smiley:
Title: Re: getting wheels aligned after lowering
Post by: Guy on 28 November 2012, 19:34
also... bear in mind that a lower suspension will have different settings
Title: Re: getting wheels aligned after lowering
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 28 November 2012, 19:35
My car is as low as yours or maybe a little more lower.

Most people who track cars, can only align your car to factory settings, but some out there can alter the factory settings, which in your case would be ideal if it's that low.

Also do you just want tracking doing, or do you need caster/camber too?

When I got my car tracked, the front wheels tocuhed the inner arch when Turning, that is when I got the the factory settings altered, to enable me to keep my car low and not touch on the inside.

Type this in google: "align Dudley" their based in Dudley
Title: Re: getting wheels aligned after lowering
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 28 November 2012, 20:24

Also do you just want tracking doing, or do you need caster/camber too?

When I got my car tracked, the front wheels tocuhed the inner arch when Turning, that is when I got the the factory settings altered, to enable me to keep my car low and not touch on the inside.

i think i just need alignment, when i drive it pulls to the left slightly. i was told changing suspension screws with the alignment anyway, don't think i need camber/caster. like yours mine rubs the inner arch on full lock but some arch rolling will solve that i think, i suppose changing the camber on yours stopped the rub?

so what would happen if they aligned the car with the factory settings? cheers all :)
Title: Re: getting wheels aligned after lowering
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 28 November 2012, 21:13
If they align with the factory settings, and your is low, it will touch on the inner arch, but like u say, If u roll your arches, you may get away with it,

Or the other option is, get your front wheels at a slant, not much, jus by abit, so it don't touch when you turn
Title: Re: getting wheels aligned after lowering
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 28 November 2012, 22:17
would you be able to recommend some settings (toe and camber)? then I can just go to the garage and tell them what I need. what did you do on yours? my bro said -1.5 may be ok?
Title: Re: getting wheels aligned after lowering
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 29 November 2012, 10:03
would you be able to recommend some settings (toe and camber)? then I can just go to the garage and tell them what I need. what did you do on yours? my bro said -1.5 may be ok?

Tbh i would not know, what the settings were. It was about 2-3 years ago, when i got mine done and i told the guy, do what you have to do, but it should not catch in the arch.

But what i can tell you is, First he aligned the rear wheels to factory settings, then he moved on to the front wheels, aligning them with the rear's.

Then he sorted out the camber/caster on the front, so it done touch. and when the car was on the ground, i could tell that the front wheels were at a slant and it looked ace.

also, some people place the clamp on the alloy wheel itself, and some place it over the tyre, which in your case if your car is low,the clamp will not go over the tyre, due to the arch being in way. so you would have to source someone who places it over the alloys.

Try these guys: http://www.alineyourcar.co.uk/

Title: Re: getting wheels aligned after lowering
Post by: Millhausen on 29 November 2012, 16:44
Did you change the suspension yourself? Changing the suspension in a Mk3 (Mk1 & 2 also) will definitely mess with the camber and toe, don't think there is any castor adjustment available at all. I may be wrong.

Adding negative camber (think standard is around -1 ish) will definitely help with handling. -1.5 would be a good setting, and, like you say will also help clear the arch slightly. Just be careful there is enough room (depending how low you are and what size tyres/wheels/offsets/bla bla you run) between the wheel and adjuster rings/springs on the coil.

Get the camber and toe done properly and you'll notice a massive difference in the handling.
I've just lowered mine some more and put the settings out so need it doing, just need to find a place that doesn't use the 'over the tyre' mounts on their equipment as they will not fit between the wheel and the arch.