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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Golf mk6 GTD/TDI => Topic started by: stevieC on 26 November 2012, 21:03

Title: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: stevieC on 26 November 2012, 21:03
just picked up a gtd 3door white with charleston shadows,looks great but not sure I like the cr engine.i part exchanged my gt sport 170 tdi which I had for 3 years & just think the gt sport feels so much quicker & sounds better.i no these are 2 different engines and the power delivery is different but has anyone else went from a gt sport to a gtd.
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: Raffe on 26 November 2012, 21:56
Yup made the same transition, albeit to my Leon FR but totally agree, the pd offered a much punchier feeling engine with the big wall of torque low down in the rev range.

The CR is a much more linear power delivery very similar to a petrol engine and I was also quite disappointed when I first got it :sad:

42k miles on and I have got used to it albeit would love to have a drive of my old Golf again to compare.

On a positive note the CR engine has got better with age, noticeably loosened up after 10k miles.
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: stevieC on 26 November 2012, 22:06
Yeh totally agree that's what I loved about gt sport the big thud of torque,you just don't get that with the gtd.should have kept the gt sport as my run around.
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: Mr GTD on 27 November 2012, 00:31
Yeh totally agree that's what I loved about gt sport the big thud of torque,you just don't get that with the gtd.should have kept the gt sport as my run around.

Let the Doc(mod) AKA Carbon Chip Tuning work his magic on it, then your get your thud back... :cool:
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: stevieC on 27 November 2012, 19:53
Going to pm the doc soon.only problem is I stay just outside Glasgow.
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: p3asa on 27 November 2012, 21:18
He seen me all right, inside of Glasgow  :laugh:
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: ajmoir36 on 27 November 2012, 21:23
I went from the 140pd to the 170cr and think the fuel economy is better and obviously the performance. The gtd sounds better too.
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: stevieC on 27 November 2012, 21:38
P3asa your only 5mins from me,also did u take your car down to doc or did he come to you.
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: p3asa on 27 November 2012, 22:40
He was up in Glasgow one night and PM'd me after I was just enquiring if it could be done.

Yours might need the chip out though depending on age. Mine was just a plug into the port.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=204609.0
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: stevieC on 28 November 2012, 16:17
Took the gtd out for a good run 2day and down a stretch of road I drove everyday in my mk5 & the gtd just isn't as quick.love the look of the car & it's nice to drive,just not liking the cr engine.  :angry:
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: dubber36 on 28 November 2012, 17:47
I'd say it is as quick, it just doesn't "feel" it.
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: Raffe on 28 November 2012, 18:03
I would agree that's a fair statement, you just need to work the CR equipped cars harder to achieve the same levels of performance.
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: stevieC on 28 November 2012, 21:36
Your probably right,could may'be just take a few months to get used to it.
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: Ess_Three on 28 November 2012, 21:45
Took the gtd out for a good run 2day and down a stretch of road I drove everyday in my mk5 & the gtd just isn't as quick.love the look of the car & it's nice to drive,just not liking the cr engine.  :angry:

The CR 170s just don't have that big torque spike that the PDs have, I've found.

They sound a bit better, rev a little higher and seem a bit better on fuel...but they just don't have the torque delivery of the old PD.
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: The Doc on 02 December 2012, 22:36
What your not liking is the lack of balls at higher revs at a guess?
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: Steve30 on 03 December 2012, 15:10
What your not liking is the lack of balls at higher revs at a guess?

I'm sure Doc could sort your problem out with his made to measure maps, its worth the drive to Manchester and you'll love the drive home :smug: :smug:

Did you test drive GTD before buying ?
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: stevieC on 03 December 2012, 21:01
What your not liking is the lack of balls at higher revs at a guess?

I'm sure Doc could sort your problem out with his made to measure maps, its worth the drive to Manchester and you'll love the drive home :smug: :smug:

Did you test drive GTD before buying ?
yes I took it for a test drive but only for 5mins.its not I don't like the gtd as its a great driving car it's just I prefer the pd power delivery,may'be I will get used to .
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: p3asa on 03 December 2012, 21:14
A map would probably change that!
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: Rhyso on 04 December 2012, 06:56
A remap will most definitely liven things up but you'll never quite get the kick of the PD engines  :undecided:

I'll be sticking with my old skool PD engine for a while yet much to The Docs disgust  :whistle: :laugh: :kiss:
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: scarr89 on 10 December 2012, 21:22
Don't say this guys.

I'v been wanting a GTD since their launch, have planned one for my next car. Love the grunt and torque of my PD at the mo...I hope I don't remember this thread in the morning  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: Mr GTD on 10 December 2012, 21:31
Don't say this guys.

I'v been wanting a GTD since their launch, have planned one for my next car. Love the grunt and torque of my PD at the mo...I hope I don't remember this thread in the morning  :lipsrsealed:

Don't let this put you off pal they are awesome machines...
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: stevieC on 10 December 2012, 22:00
Think the only way I'm keeping the gtd is if I get a remap,trying so hard to like the cr engine but its not happening.I just hope when I'm out for a drive I don't see a gt sport in my rear view mirror.
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: The Doc on 12 December 2012, 11:34
Think the only way I'm keeping the gtd is if I get a remap,trying so hard to like the cr engine but its not happening.I just hope when I'm out for a drive I don't see a gt sport in my rear view mirror.

Or an insignia  :embarrassed:

Map the b8stard and all will be well  :grin:
Title: Re: 170pd vs 170cr
Post by: stevieC on 12 December 2012, 20:47
Think the only way I'm keeping the gtd is if I get a remap,trying so hard to like the cr engine but its not happening.I just hope when I'm out for a drive I don't see a gt sport in my rear view mirror.

Or an insignia  :embarrassed:

Map the b8stard and all will be well  :grin:
might pay you a visit Doc over the Xmas hols will let you no how I'm fixed.