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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: GTi_James on 26 November 2012, 09:30
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hey guys,
looking to put on my new shiny wheels on in the spring but i also want to make sure i have everything else ready for lowering and tightening up the ride.
So new 18" Calibre vintage with Vredestrains Ultracsancs fronts 7.5 rears 8.0, 15mm spacers front and 20mm for back, FK coilovers, S3 front strut braces, TT mk1 ARB and wishbones, Whiteline RARB, full Polybush kit and R32 dogbone mount?
is there a brace for the rear i could purchase or would the ARB be ok on its own?
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The rear ARB will be ok. What about some drop links for the front ARB?
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of course i forgot lol, that would of been a nightmare :lipsrsealed: i think the whiteline comes with droplinks already though so thats not too bad, any advice on decent droplinks?
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Im I reading that wrong?? whats the Whiteline RARB got to do with the front? wee bit lost.
Your fitting a TT ARB and wishbones you need drop links that go onto the TT ARB and I take it your coilovers have the bracket for fitting the other end of the drop link to.. Just get standard ones.
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well i was reading some where that if i fit a rear ARB then it must be thicker in diameter than the front? i was going with the TTmk1 front ARB and a Whiteline 22mm rear ARB?
im confused myself now lol the coilies come with the bracket etc thats correct
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Yea so back to what I said at the start you'll need two drop links like these below to fit the TT ARB.
http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=256
You had left it out of the list of things in your first post. All the rest of the bits are there that you'll need for fitting.
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awesome stuff cheers for that mate, role on spring now :grin:
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personally what id do is fit the anti roll bars first, before doing anything else so you can decide whether you think the tt arb is thick enough for your driving style and whether to go further to r32 bar, also youll need to setup rarb too
and i wouldnt bother with the lower front strut brace, unless you just fancy spending money
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personally what id do is fit the anti roll bars first, before doing anything else so you can decide whether you think the tt arb is thick enough for your driving style and whether to go further to r32 bar, also youll need to setup rarb too
and i wouldnt bother with the lower front strut brace, unless you just fancy spending money
I thought the TT arb goes under the drive shaft...And that you could just use standard drop links?
Any Farb will be better and most likely noticeable over the stock arb. The rear one will be noticed most if you only put one, being the rear, on for example. Have it set on the least stiffest setting first I were you and then stiffen it up if you require.
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personally what id do is fit the anti roll bars first, before doing anything else so you can decide whether you think the tt arb is thick enough for your driving style and whether to go further to r32 bar, also youll need to setup rarb too
and i wouldnt bother with the lower front strut brace, unless you just fancy spending money
I thought the TT arb goes under the drive shaft...And that you could just use standard drop links?
Any Farb will be better and most likely noticeable over the stock arb. The rear one will be noticed most if you only put one, being the rear, on for example. Have it set on the least stiffest setting first I were you and then stiffen it up if you require.
The OP said he was fitting the TT wishbones as well so has to go with drop links. If he was staying with the mk4 wishbones then yes in a way he could the standard drop link
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personally what id do is fit the anti roll bars first, before doing anything else so you can decide whether you think the tt arb is thick enough for your driving style and whether to go further to r32 bar, also youll need to setup rarb too
and i wouldnt bother with the lower front strut brace, unless you just fancy spending money
I thought the TT arb goes under the drive shaft...And that you could just use standard drop links?
Any Farb will be better and most likely noticeable over the stock arb. The rear one will be noticed most if you only put one, being the rear, on for example. Have it set on the least stiffest setting first I were you and then stiffen it up if you require.
adjustable droplinks will be required for farb. and depending on how he sets up the rarb then the front may be killing the handling, throw in the tyre change and suspension and you have it a lot more difficult for a non pro to setup.
adjust/change one thing at a time to see if it helps or hinders
also i disagree about your rarb comment, they are the best thing you can add to any front wheel drive car, does wonders to reduce understeer, mk4s seem to benefit more from them than other cars thanks to there stiff chassis
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personally what id do is fit the anti roll bars first, before doing anything else so you can decide whether you think the tt arb is thick enough for your driving style and whether to go further to r32 bar, also youll need to setup rarb too
and i wouldnt bother with the lower front strut brace, unless you just fancy spending money
I thought the TT arb goes under the drive shaft...And that you could just use standard drop links?
Any Farb will be better and most likely noticeable over the stock arb. The rear one will be noticed most if you only put one, being the rear, on for example. Have it set on the least stiffest setting first I were you and then stiffen it up if you require.
adjustable droplinks will be required for farb. and depending on how he sets up the rarb then the front may be killing the handling, throw in the tyre change and suspension and you have it a lot more difficult for a non pro to setup.
adjust/change one thing at a time to see if it helps or hinders
also i disagree about your rarb comment, they are the best thing you can add to any front wheel drive car, does wonders to reduce understeer, mk4s seem to benefit more from them than other cars thanks to there stiff chassis
I agree with you about the R ARB...That is what I was trying to put across...Obviously not very well :grin: :laugh:
I cannot comment as to which 'mod' to put on first, as I put on springs/shocks and then at a later date added FARB & RARB at the same time. At both times noticed a noticeable improvement in the handling.
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personally what id do is fit the anti roll bars first, before doing anything else so you can decide whether you think the tt arb is thick enough for your driving style and whether to go further to r32 bar, also youll need to setup rarb too
and i wouldnt bother with the lower front strut brace, unless you just fancy spending money
I thought the TT arb goes under the drive shaft...And that you could just use standard drop links?
Any Farb will be better and most likely noticeable over the stock arb. The rear one will be noticed most if you only put one, being the rear, on for example. Have it set on the least stiffest setting first I were you and then stiffen it up if you require.
adjustable droplinks will be required for farb. and depending on how he sets up the rarb then the front may be killing the handling, throw in the tyre change and suspension and you have it a lot more difficult for a non pro to setup.
adjust/change one thing at a time to see if it helps or hinders
also i disagree about your rarb comment, they are the best thing you can add to any front wheel drive car, does wonders to reduce understeer, mk4s seem to benefit more from them than other cars thanks to there stiff chassis
I agree with you about the R ARB...That is what I was trying to put across...Obviously not very well :grin: :laugh:
I cannot comment as to which 'mod' to put on first, as I put on springs/shocks and then at a later date added FARB & RARB at the same time. At both times noticed a noticeable improvement in the handling.
ah right, get you now.
i just said arbs cos there the easiest to fit and setup, if you setup springs then add arb you may want to mess with the springs again, at least once arbs are on and setup then they can be left alone
only speaking from experience as i seemed to be forever fiddling with my old escort, dont think i ever got that car setup properly, always trying to change too much at once
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awesome response guys thanks, i should of mentioned the ARB's are going on first tbh with the struts then the wishbones to follow...would of saved alot of typing :lipsrsealed: but your responses are second to non!
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awesome response guys thanks, i should of mentioned the ARB's are going on first tbh with the struts then the wishbones to follow...would of saved alot of typing :lipsrsealed: but your responses are second to non!
What wish bones?
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mk1 TT? ive seen some builds from other forums and i supposedly is better over the standard? or should i leave them out?
and i know i'll need Audi TT wishbones Audi TT hubs Audi TT quickrack and Audi TT Roadster subframe bushes i believe so thats all being saved up for but cant i fit the wishbones only and buy as and when i can or should i put everything together then fit?
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mk1 TT? ive seen some builds from other forums and i supposedly is better over the standard? or should i leave them out?
and i know i'll need Audi TT wishbones Audi TT hubs Audi TT quickrack and Audi TT Roadster subframe bushes i believe so thats all being saved up for but cant i fit the wishbones only and buy as and when i can or should i put everything together then fit?
Was just checking you know waht you required :wink: :smiley:
Upto you if you'd rather do it all in a oner, would be much easier...but then you'd have to wait for to save up for it all :sad:
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mk1 TT? ive seen some builds from other forums and i supposedly is better over the standard? or should i leave them out?
and i know i'll need Audi TT wishbones Audi TT hubs Audi TT quickrack and Audi TT Roadster subframe bushes i believe so thats all being saved up for but cant i fit the wishbones only and buy as and when i can or should i put everything together then fit?
Was just checking you know waht you required :wink: :smiley:
Upto you if you'd rather do it all in a oner, would be much easier...but then you'd have to wait for to save up for it all :sad:
:drool: not gonna get into that one again lol i think for the purpose of my build i'll stick with the S3 upper and lower struts, i'll need a rear strut and the proposed ARB's, before i fit some coilies, i wouldnt need the all the Audi TT kit to fit the ARB just the droplinks right?
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or just buy a TT? :laugh:
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or just buy a TT? :laugh:
...but then it wouldnt be a golf :huh: :laugh:
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Can never have enough with regards to handling mods :grin:
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dont you get involved, its bad enough this forums giving me ideas and spending money, i think i saw your build pik floating about and you sig says it all realy lol
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What the wife don't know, what hurt her :wink:
Besides I'm sure she would rather you cheat on her with the car than another women, right? :cool:
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thats what she said :lipsrsealed:
but now im spending more time in the car than her :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
its ok though i'm getting her warmed to my car, i bough her a top from the bay with "Eat, Sleep, Mk4" emblazoned on the front :evil: AND SHE WEARS IT WHEN WE GO FOR A DRIVE! and shes clubbed some dosh for a deposit on BBS wheels ive been looking at for xmas...suppose another holiday is in line for her :sad: