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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Dolly on 10 November 2012, 08:35

Title: 1.4 Issues, now with fault codes, misfire and cam sensor
Post by: Dolly on 10 November 2012, 08:35

Hi, had a call from a mate with a mk5 pretty sure its a 1.4 TSI 56 Reg.

Its lumpy at idle and the engine warning light is on, but it revs ok?

He has got the codes read and has got Cam Sensor Retarded P3008 Signal out of scope.

Does this sound like timing? do they suffer with timing issues? im going to take a look in the next hour or 2 and scan it with Vagcom.

He is expecting me to fix it when i know nothing about them  :laugh:

Its got a BMY Engine

Title: Re: 1.4 Issues, Timing?
Post by: Dolly on 10 November 2012, 10:39

Ok its only done 32K so im half ruling out timing chain problems for now.

this is what VagCom tells me:

Saturday,10,November,2012,10:04:28:54223
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.4
Data version: 20120807


                Address 01: Engine       Labels: 03C-906-032-BLG.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 03C 906 032 E    HW: 03C 906 032
  Component and/or Version: MED17.5.1           9973
           Software Coding: 0000072
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00680 210 90007
                      VCID: 1F4D5D1DCE6E13E038F
4 Faults Found:

012296 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)
               P3008 - 000 - Signal Out of Range - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11110000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 52925 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:15:00

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1847 /min
                    Load: 9.8 %
                    Speed: 49.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 69.0°C
                    Temperature: 20.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

008801 - Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249)
               P2261 - 000 - Mechanical Malfunction - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Mileage: 52926 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:15:40

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2117 /min
                    Load: 27.4 %
                    Speed: 44.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 73.0°C
                    Temperature: 20.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.224 V

000769 - Cylinder 1
               P0301 - 000 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 52930 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 10:42:34

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1212 /min
                    Load: 35.3 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 24.0°C
                    Temperature: 18.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.970 V

Title: Re: 1.4 Issues, now with fault codes, misfire and cam sensor
Post by: Dolly on 10 November 2012, 10:42

ive swopped cylinder 1 ignition coil and spark plug with cylinder 3 and the misfire remains on cylinder 1.

if i go into measuring blocks and to the misfire counter, it orignally showed cylinder 1, counting rapidly upwards, since swopping over the coil and plug it counts but very slow and only to 3/4 now it just showing the odd 1.
But i put this down to the fact the engine has warmed up abit?

im tempted to first try a camshaft position sensor, what you all think?

Title: Re: 1.4 Issues, now with fault codes, misfire and cam sensor
Post by: Dolly on 12 November 2012, 17:45

Well a new VW camshaft sensor didnt fix it  :sad:

£30 so not the end of the world. bad news is it looks like the timing is slightly out which points to chain...

and it missfires from cold still always cylinder 1. so guessing fuel injector but best sort timing first. Also heard theres a software update for that fault. might be worth a punt

Title: Re: 1.4 Issues, now with fault codes, misfire and cam sensor
Post by: damage1_1 on 27 March 2013, 10:43

Hi -- I have similar probs with my TSi and I am now thinking VVT or Timing chain stretched. Did you resolve yours?
Roger