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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: SWR1.8t on 06 November 2012, 12:10
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Hi Guys,
Looking to get a decent induction kit for my AUM, But am unsure whats best and which is most recommended?
I have been looking at the carbonio, but there are quite a few different kits out there.
I have seen on JBS's website that they offer an induction kit from a company called Autotech, they seem okay but just wanted reviews.
What filter does everyone use and recommend?
Thanks
Sam
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I use HID kit filters with dump valves attached and a how much is my car now worth screw.
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Hi Guys,
Looking to get a decent induction kit for my AUM, But am unsure whats best and which is most recommended?
I have been looking at the carbonio, but there are quite a few different kits out there.
I have seen on JBS's website that they offer an induction kit from a company called Autotech, they seem okay but just wanted reviews.
What filter does everyone use and recommend?
Thanks
Sam
Just put an uprated panel filter in mate, K&N or ITG
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Is that what people use over cold air induction kits? I did look in to a panel filter. But I want more of an induction sound? Will a panel filter give me the same sound as a cai
Thanks
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no they wont because its still an enclosed box where as a CAI isnt
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Ahh fair enough, I may have to try a panel filter the., seems like that's the popular choice
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Becareful if you use a cold air feed in this weather, it may soak up water and bend your valves, been there not fun.
I have always used the cotton cone filters off ebay and they work a treat and sound brilliant
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Becareful if you use a cold air feed in this weather, it may soak up water and bend your valves, been there not fun.
I have always used the cotton cone filters off ebay and they work a treat and sound brilliant
rubbish it doesn't make it past the turbo. been there dun that
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Becareful if you use a cold air feed in this weather, it may soak up water and bend your valves, been there not fun.
I have always used the cotton cone filters off ebay and they work a treat and sound brilliant
rubbish it doesn't make it past the turbo. been there dun that
i am with ashmound it can happen know people who have had to write the car off because of this
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Name these people or show me these threads, you only ever hear about it there's no proof, if water was bad for the engine then why do people (like myself) use water injection? say if you did hit a massive puddle and the front of you car was submerged underwater the amount of water u would suck up would destroy the turbo causing the engine to stall so there'd no pressure to suck up water plus you would let off throttle therefor shutting the butterfly valve on the throttle body, so only a little amount of water would get through, not enough to damage your engine.
im sorry but the whole cai and sucking up water thing is rubbish if you ask me.
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Ashmond - Do you have a link to the ones you use?
Really stuck on what to get to be honest. I have seen that you can buy filter jackets from AwesomeGTI which help deflect most of the water away from a filter on a cold air feed, anybody used one of those?
Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated.
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Name these people or show me these threads, you only ever hear about it there's no proof, if water was bad for the engine then why do people (like myself) use water injection? say if you did hit a massive puddle and the front of you car was submerged underwater the amount of water u would suck up would destroy the turbo causing the engine to stall so there'd no pressure to suck up water plus you would let off throttle therefor shutting the butterfly valve on the throttle body, so only a little amount of water would get through, not enough to damage your engine.
im sorry but the whole cai and sucking up water thing is rubbish if you ask me.
It's not rubbish. Large amounts of water can't be burnt off and will have a hydraulic effect and ruin an engine.
Water injection is something entirely different.
Some years ago I binned a car as enough water got into the induction and ruined my engine.
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Name these people or show me these threads, you only ever hear about it there's no proof, if water was bad for the engine then why do people (like myself) use water injection? say if you did hit a massive puddle and the front of you car was submerged underwater the amount of water u would suck up would destroy the turbo causing the engine to stall so there'd no pressure to suck up water plus you would let off throttle therefor shutting the butterfly valve on the throttle body, so only a little amount of water would get through, not enough to damage your engine.
im sorry but the whole cai and sucking up water thing is rubbish if you ask me.
I never said i had proof and i never said there was a turbo involed either so dont just jump to conclusions i know some people have been affected by this my mates polo was onewhich sucked up waterand then shat itselfstraight away
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Name these people or show me these threads, you only ever hear about it there's no proof, if water was bad for the engine then why do people (like myself) use water injection? say if you did hit a massive puddle and the front of you car was submerged underwater the amount of water u would suck up would destroy the turbo causing the engine to stall so there'd no pressure to suck up water plus you would let off throttle therefor shutting the butterfly valve on the throttle body, so only a little amount of water would get through, not enough to damage your engine.
im sorry but the whole cai and sucking up water thing is rubbish if you ask me.
I never said i had proof and i never said there was a turbo involed either so dont just jump to conclusions i know some people have been affected by this my mates polo was onewhich sucked up waterand then shat itselfstraight away
well you need to make yourself alot clearer next time but if its a n/a car then YES you can suck up water and F**K your engine thats obvious as it goes directly into the engine but seen as u were talking about fitting an induction kit to a turbo car then the water will hit the turbo first. think about it and the distance the water will have to travel.
Ant please stop talking.
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Name these people or show me these threads, you only ever hear about it there's no proof, if water was bad for the engine then why do people (like myself) use water injection? say if you did hit a massive puddle and the front of you car was submerged underwater the amount of water u would suck up would destroy the turbo causing the engine to stall so there'd no pressure to suck up water plus you would let off throttle therefor shutting the butterfly valve on the throttle body, so only a little amount of water would get through, not enough to damage your engine.
im sorry but the whole cai and sucking up water thing is rubbish if you ask me.
I never said i had proof and i never said there was a turbo involed either so dont just jump to conclusions i know some people have been affected by this my mates polo was onewhich sucked up waterand then shat itselfstraight away
well you need to make yourself alot clearer next time but if its a n/a car then YES you can suck up water and F**K your engine thats obvious as it goes directly into the engine but seen as u were talking about fitting an induction kit to a turbo car then the water will hit the turbo first. think about it and the distance the water will have to travel.
Ant please stop talking.
you sound like you know what your talking about :lipsrsealed:.
if you suck up enough water throught the induction its obvious that the engine heat wont burn the water of quick enough as engines dont get that hot.
think if they did we would all use alot more water in are cars,i am no mechnic but its not rocket science.
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If you havent changed anything yet as in the car is standard in terms of induction then I personally would just fit a panel filter in.
That being said I love the sound of an induction kit and you also get rid of the massive airbox - if you do consider the CAI route I wouldnt get one of the ebay type that runs behind the bumper, I would go for a cone on the end of the MAF and a heatshield of some kind.
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Ah okay so maybe something the neuspeed kit that comes with a heat shield, time to search the Internet for a decent one I think
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I think a standard air box with uprated pannel filter is best for performance.
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Name these people or show me these threads, you only ever hear about it there's no proof, if water was bad for the engine then why do people (like myself) use water injection? say if you did hit a massive puddle and the front of you car was submerged underwater the amount of water u would suck up would destroy the turbo causing the engine to stall so there'd no pressure to suck up water plus you would let off throttle therefor shutting the butterfly valve on the throttle body, so only a little amount of water would get through, not enough to damage your engine.
im sorry but the whole cai and sucking up water thing is rubbish if you ask me.
I never said i had proof and i never said there was a turbo involed either so dont just jump to conclusions i know some people have been affected by this my mates polo was onewhich sucked up waterand then shat itselfstraight away
well you need to make yourself alot clearer next time but if its a n/a car then YES you can suck up water and F**K your engine thats obvious as it goes directly into the engine but seen as u were talking about fitting an induction kit to a turbo car then the water will hit the turbo first. think about it and the distance the water will have to travel.
Ant please stop talking.
you sound like you know what your talking about :lipsrsealed:.
if you suck up enough water throught the induction its obvious that the engine heat wont burn the water of quick enough as engines dont get that hot.
think if they did we would all use alot more water in are cars,i am no mechnic but its not rocket science.
It's not to do with the heat, it's the volume of water.
Water injection is a fine mist, where as if you suck cupfuls of water into an engine, you'd get effectively a hydraulic lock as the piston wants to push down, rods bend and worse case the block will crack if there's no plug.
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feck me not this again :grin:
this argument as been done to death now :rolleyes:
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I've had my Golf tested on R-Techs dyno back to back with no airbox and then the set up I have now (DSG R32 parts and Green Cotton panel filter)
There was no difference in power output :smiley:
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I was gonna ask at some point what would be best for hybrid (k03/k04-023) as I have dsg on already you think I would need to change to cai?
If on the k03s stage 2 there is no difference you think this will be fine?
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I was gonna ask at some point what would be best for hybrid (k03/k04-023) as I have dsg on already you think I would need to change to cai?
If on the k03s stage 2 there is no difference you think this will be fine?
S3 and LCR run panel filters dont they
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Name these people or show me these threads, you only ever hear about it there's no proof, if water was bad for the engine then why do people (like myself) use water injection? say if you did hit a massive puddle and the front of you car was submerged underwater the amount of water u would suck up would destroy the turbo causing the engine to stall so there'd no pressure to suck up water plus you would let off throttle therefor shutting the butterfly valve on the throttle body, so only a little amount of water would get through, not enough to damage your engine.
im sorry but the whole cai and sucking up water thing is rubbish if you ask me.
I never said i had proof and i never said there was a turbo involed either so dont just jump to conclusions i know some people have been affected by this my mates polo was onewhich sucked up waterand then shat itselfstraight away
well you need to make yourself alot clearer next time but if its a n/a car then YES you can suck up water and F**K your engine thats obvious as it goes directly into the engine but seen as u were talking about fitting an induction kit to a turbo car then the water will hit the turbo first. think about it and the distance the water will have to travel.
Ant please stop talking.
There's a much better way of trying to save face.
Or you could just say 'oh I understand now'.
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I was gonna ask at some point what would be best for hybrid (k03/k04-023) as I have dsg on already you think I would need to change to cai?
If on the k03s stage 2 there is no difference you think this will be fine?
S3 and LCR run panel filters dont they
Yes they do!! Dunno if the dsg snorkel is big enough at the air box side.... Maybe add another feed into the air box..... Have a feeling that the drain pipe will be coming out :lipsrsealed:
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I've had my Golf tested on R-Techs dyno back to back with no airbox and then the set up I have now (DSG R32 parts and Green Cotton panel filter)
There was no difference in power output :smiley:
Dont r-tech sell a induction kit that makes more bhp then a panel filter. :wink: :grin: I was glad to lose my smooth airbox and k&n panel filter, think it went in the skip well its long gone somewhere . :evil: