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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: bcarlin on 04 November 2012, 08:02
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I've been looking at a tiguan r line. Has anyone had one or would it be a bad move from a gti
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I suspect The Doc and Steve30 will be the best ones to answer this. :smiley:
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I would have thought they were like chalk and cheese? I've driven the 140 r line and thought it was a bit gutless so perhs push for a 170 and you'd have a result? Never owned one but I love the look of the r line.
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The Missus has a Tiguan Sport 170bhp 4motionwith leather interior and Im in the ED35.
Obviously 2 very different motors. Theres plenty of grunt from the 170bhp and as the car that it is, I really like it and enjoy driving it but no way you can compare to a GTI.
2 things thats bothers me with the Tig is the very notchy gearbox, VW says its typical of the 4 motion, either way it aint slick so nothing like GTI. The other is you need to be belted up to even get the car to move, you can't quickly jump in to move on the drive to wash etc. You have to belt up or electronic handbrake wont release. Thats a pain.
I enjoy having both cars in the family but even an 'R' Tig is cosmetic over the Sport but same engine so i dont expect it to be so different that i would say GTI to Tig is an easy and smooth transition of car choice
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....2 things thats bothers me with the Tig is the very notchy gearbox, VW says its typical of the 4 motion, either way it aint slick so nothing like GTI. ...
Just like my GTD gearbox is now. Its horrid in the freezing cold.
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I have an Ed35 and a 2.0TSi DSG Tiguan. The Tiguan is a lovely family car. It is quite thirsty though. It has enough power and has a 7 speed DSG box. GTi vs Tiguan? Guess it all boils down to what you want in a car.
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My Mrs last car was a Tiggy R-Line DSG, car was great but the ride was terrible for us as a family car.
We sold it at a profit and bought a brand new Yeti 4x4 DSG 140TDI which is pretty much fully loaded (Pan roof, xenons, nappa leather electric memory driver seat, sound pack, auto self park thing etc) but with standard wheels for £25k after some haggling :wink:
Gearbox is fine in DSG on both cars btw
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Never driven a Tiguan, but my mum has a Freelander which is exceptional at doing pretty much everything, as long as you take it for what it is.
Mind you, a Tiguan isn't exactly going to be a hot hatch, so you need to ask yourself whether you want a 4x4, that brings its benefits as well as drawbacks compared to your ED35.
It's obvious why Freelanders are so popular when you live with one.
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Ive got a 2005 range rover just now that I'm going to sell and maybe get a tiguan r line for me or between us. I'm unsure what to do
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The Missus has a Tiguan Sport 170bhp 4motionwith leather interior and Im in the ED35.
Obviously 2 very different motors. Theres plenty of grunt from the 170bhp and as the car that it is, I really like it and enjoy driving it but no way you can compare to a GTI.
2 things thats bothers me with the Tig is the very notchy gearbox, VW says its typical of the 4 motion, either way it aint slick so nothing like GTI. The other is you need to be belted up to even get the car to move, you can't quickly jump in to move on the drive to wash etc. You have to belt up or electronic handbrake wont release. Thats a pain.
I enjoy having both cars in the family but even an 'R' Tig is cosmetic over the Sport but same engine so i dont expect it to be so different that i would say GTI to Tig is an easy and smooth transition of car choice
DSG Tig all the way get the 140BHP or the 170 map it and you have high rise Golf 4WD. I wasnt sure at first when I bought it tested it about 4 times great motor love it, the map transforms car.
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I have a Tiguan 170 Sport and my wife has a Golf GTD 170 , I like driving both and the Tig is quite quick but not as much as the Golf .
I would recommend you go to the dealers and see if they would give you a demonstrater for a day to see if you like it .
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As a family car, I thought the boot was a bit of a let down when I looked at one. Then again, I'm used to been able to getting 2 kids mountain bikes and a heap load of other stuff in the boot of my Passat estate, without having to fold the seats down.
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i agree
when we went to look at the tiguan i was disappointed with the boot space and rear seat room etc
the boot is no bigger than the golf really and the back seat leg room just the same only a bit higher.
its not as versatile as alot of the competition either. our altea has very flexible rear seats/boot which can be adjusted to suit more situations.
the passat estate is huge in the back and a much better bet for a family car i reckon.
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i agree
when we went to look at the tiguan i was disappointed with the boot space and rear seat room etc
the boot is no bigger than the golf really and the back seat leg room just the same only a bit higher.
its not as versatile as alot of the competition either. our altea has very flexible rear seats/boot which can be adjusted to suit more situations.
the passat estate is huge in the back and a much better bet for a family car i reckon.
A Passat over mapped Tig , I dont think so you forgot the 4wd :laugh:
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It depends what you want to do with it Steve. For everyday carting the kids about, the Tig is an excellent car. A 4 wheel drive one would also be better than my Passat for towing, but, when I have the caravan on the back, as it only has a 250ish kg payload, lots of stuff has to go in the car. There just isn't the room in the Tig to fit everything in.
There is of course the Passat Alltrack. They are a monumental amount of money for what they are new, but there are 6 month old ones around now for about £23k, which makes one a serious consideration.
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Anyone want to buy a range rover ?
Think im going to go get a test drive in a r line model
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Passats loose money so fast it's shocking - not yours as it's not under three years old of course.
We sold my wifes 2009 freelander 2 as the boot couldn't accomodate our sons pram etc due to the suspension intrusion and that's why she ended up with the tig then the yeti.
With 4x4s you'd need a disco etc to get big estate space then some.....
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Interested to find out today that in January you will be able to order a tiguan 2.0 tdi 177 ps dsg......
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So basically the same combo that's in the Audi Q3. Sounds good. :nerd:
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I'm thinking of replacing my Leon TDI 130 in about 6 months time with either an Audi Q3 sline, VW tiguan or a Skoda yeti, I looked at other makes rangerover(image put me off) RAV4 etc bit ruled most of them out.
I like the Audi interior trim and spec the most by a lot but the tiguan outside looks the most. I'm also not sure if the 140tdi will be enough as its a lot heavier than the Leon.
i'm going to use it as a winter car, a shopping car and towing a few different things (car trailer, 10ft trailer for DIY stuff/car parts collection, boat)
:undecided:
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I'm thinking of replacing my Leon TDI 130 in about 6 months time with either an Audi Q3 sline, VW tiguan or a Skoda yeti, I looked at other makes rangerover(image put me off) RAV4 etc bit ruled most of them out.
I like the Audi trim and spec the most by a lot but the tiguan outside looks the most. I'm also not sure if the 140tdi will be enough as its a lot heavier than the Leon.
i'm going to use it as a winter car,.shopping car, towing a car trailer or a 10ft trailer for DIY stuff/car parts collection.
:undecided:
Id get the AudiQ3 or the Yeti , Ive been finding the Tig is not very fuel efficient proving expensive to run but its still a great car. :wink: Also i'm just not doing the milage to justify the diesel expense.
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I'm thinking of replacing my Leon TDI 130 in about 6 months time with either an Audi Q3 sline, VW tiguan or a Skoda yeti, I looked at other makes rangerover(image put me off) RAV4 etc bit ruled most of them out.
I like the Audi trim and spec the most by a lot but the tiguan outside looks the most. I'm also not sure if the 140tdi will be enough as its a lot heavier than the Leon.
i'm going to use it as a winter car,.shopping car, towing a car trailer or a 10ft trailer for DIY stuff/car parts collection.
:undecided:
Id get the AudiQ3 or the Yeti , Ive been finding the Tig is not very fuel efficient proving expensive to run but its still a great car. :wink: Also i'm just not doing the milage to justify the diesel expense.
I specced up the new Tiguan R line the other day, looks really smart but only comes in manual atm which is a shame, i'm suprised to hear that it's dear to run though.
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The way I looked at it is its a tonne and a half heavy square brick so I'm not expecting it too be great on fuel to be honest. Our vans are not and its a.similar shape.
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What's your TIG doing Steve?
Mrs Docs 140bhp DSG Yeti does about 40mpg on the school / shopping run which I think is very acceptable tbh.
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What's your TIG doing Steve?
Mrs Docs 140bhp DSG Yeti does about 40mpg on the school / shopping run which I think is very acceptable tbh.
Around London Doc about 35 and thats fary driving, now on M-way totally differant 48-50MPG at 70mph :wink:
I put in £25 diesel couple of days ago have done 65 miles town driving its on reserve now.
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Sounds not good should be getting 140 miles to your £25 but of course it all depends on traffic conditions, driving style, temperature etc
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Doc
Do the newer engines warm up quicker than the older PDs?
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Sounds not good should be getting 140 miles to your £25 but of course it all depends on traffic conditions, driving style, temperature etc
No chance on the above figures Doc wishful thnking mate :wink:
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Doc
Do the newer engines warm up quicker than the older PDs?
I'd say so yes but I've never timed one tbh, would make sense that they would heat up faster to help with the drive cycle figures.
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Steve
That's not far off what I'm getting on the GTd at the minute :sad:
it's in for MOT and brake fluid at the end of the month and have asked them to look at. It's not been the same since I had the DPF light come on and now it also seems to regenerate more frequently - me thinks they've tweaked it in VCDS.
Having said that, had a good run out yesterday and got near 50 which was a pleasant change.
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My old pd has dropped mpg dramatically (10mpg+ ) since the cold weather but it takes about 7 miles to warm up (normal so it seems from other forums)
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Mrs Docs Yeti took pretty much bang on 10 mins to get to 90 degrees C for water and 60 degrees C for the oil, drive consisted of 3 min wait for heated windscreen to clear followed by a 2.8 mile drive in stop start traffic.
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It takes alot longer to get the oil to 90 degrees, even at 70 on the motorway.
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Steve
That's not far off what I'm getting on the GTd at the minute :sad:
it's in for MOT and brake fluid at the end of the month and have asked them to look at. It's not been the same since I had the DPF light come on and now it also seems to regenerate more frequently - me thinks they've tweaked it in VCDS.
Having said that, had a good run out yesterday and got near 50 which was a pleasant change.
Hi Buck
I went over to Maidstone yesterday and manged to get 43-44 MPG at 65 MPH its definetly gone down maybe due to winter conditions , cold weather?? :undecided:
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Diesels do take a hit MPG wise in the winter months
Normally I get 52-55mpg en route to work but thats hovering around the 50mpg mark. Upside is the car feels a bit more punchy so perhaps Im playing with it a bit too much :whistle: :evil: :laugh:
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Thanks Doc,
The old PD takes about 15mins ~6 miles before the climate control heater even starts to work.