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Title: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: rio_gti on 13 October 2012, 18:37
thought i would start it, even thou my hose order fell thru, wanted to have an idea how it was gonna go on

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/1BCFD24E-0716-4D85-A952-692A6C3378D6-728-000000699D755B32.jpg)

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/E063445D-4F03-4694-B12C-FB6DBAC8EF93-728-00000069BA27F699.jpg)

needs a touch more work for it to fit better, will get a few more close up picks tomorrow when i get the crash bar on, and how ive fixed it on - cut, drilled and bolted it thru where the bumper fixes to, dont know if this is the norm but it seams to work!!
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: cullygti on 13 October 2012, 18:40
erm whats is that you have fitted  :undecided:  :grin:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: rio_gti on 13 October 2012, 18:45
erm whats is that you have fitted  :undecided:  :grin:

what you mean??  :sad:

thought your name was cullygti not bullygti!!  :grin:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: cullygti on 13 October 2012, 18:48
haha

only joking dude looks mahoooooosive  :cool:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: rio_gti on 13 October 2012, 18:55
i know i sh!t myself when i opened the box it came in!!  :grin:

i am gonna have to cut the bumper to make it fit...boy thou it is large
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: Granta Gti on 13 October 2012, 19:15
That's huge!! Is it a welly cooler one?
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: rio_gti on 13 October 2012, 19:19
might me  :laugh:

its this one!!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FMIC-FFRONT-MOUNT-TURBO-INTERCOOLER-TYPE-B-600x300x76MM-/310228624694?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item483b112536
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: rfn_hodgson on 13 October 2012, 19:21
let us know how the pipe work goes and what sizes and lengths and all that good stuff :D please
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: SI74 on 13 October 2012, 19:27
Good job!

See the grinder is out bit of reall modding going on  :smiley:

Should get a pic with the SMIC beside it.
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: rio_gti on 13 October 2012, 20:01
Cheers!! I will do when it comes to fitting it permanently  :wink:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: jamie1989 on 13 October 2012, 21:09
Thats huge  :laugh:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: rio_gti on 13 October 2012, 21:15
So I've been told  :grin:  :kiss:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: jamie1989 on 13 October 2012, 22:06
Similar to tobys old one I think. I like it mate   :cool:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: barrym381 on 13 October 2012, 22:12
are you going for coloured pipes  :smiley:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: rio_gti on 13 October 2012, 22:28
Nice one!! Black on the cooler so it's not visible and blue under the bonet  :wink:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: mr-ras on 13 October 2012, 23:22
that is big.

interested to see how much it will show when the bumper goes on. I need to et a fmic at some point but want it to look stealthy. where are you sourcing your pipes from?
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: rio_gti on 14 October 2012, 00:05
still searching for them, ASH are out of stock for a few weeks  :cry:

stealth is king imho thats why i want black hoses on the front so you wont notice it
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: xtetx on 14 October 2012, 16:00
Flipping heck! Cannot wait to see that fitted properly!
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: rio_gti on 14 October 2012, 18:37
so a few shots of how it going

cut the bottom of the latch bracket

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/39F5526E-CC4D-47C8-B8A5-51D84F9462A3-1569-000000C72663D30B.jpg)

cut away some of the panel to help bring the intercooler as far back as possible

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/6A588D4B-D3D9-4B9E-BCA7-61B3B1198BFD-1569-000000C73BDA36A2.jpg)

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/E2002BEC-E853-49F4-8EEE-01EFA3108A6A-1569-000000C73774660A.jpg)

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/5B7CB2F1-7C35-4137-A481-66223543A3C7-1569-000000C73100275D.jpg)

cut an access out and drilled into the frame (where the bumper fixes on to) to fix the intercooler on to

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/4252741F-296D-42A9-A85B-10BA114381A3-1569-000000C740EE8AD7.jpg)

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/15BD27EC-0552-45F1-BA41-374469392978-1569-000000C745782615.jpg)

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/E063445D-4F03-4694-B12C-FB6DBAC8EF93-728-00000069BA27F699.jpg)

offered up crash bar and marked and cut it

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/2A4F6C10-5F59-4891-85F3-01DCCE8C9828-1569-000000C74A09F76A.jpg)

and fitted

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/554DD0F8-DC18-4580-9848-1284B211BA43-1569-000000C74E4840D7.jpg)


offered the bumper on and gave it a little trim, but still needs a bit more, but that will come when i get the hoses on.

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/21C1331B-6CFD-4393-85B4-632ED97A1D78-1569-000000C75255067B.jpg)

thats all the main work done for now, bumper shouldnt take long to finish once its on  :smiley:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: turbokid23 on 14 October 2012, 18:43
That look snug mate want to see it with pipe work now, will you still be able to get the grills in?
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: rio_gti on 14 October 2012, 18:55
well i do want to but i can see i will have to cut quite a bit out, so im gonna cut the whole of the side vents out, (well, where the intercooler pipe comes out, and bring it back at an angle) so in theory the mesh would sit flush on the surface  :smug: , if ya get what i mean  :undecided:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast'
Post by: turbokid23 on 14 October 2012, 18:59
You lost me mate but think I get it,, you do mine :)
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: cooki on 15 October 2012, 10:55
top work mate looks like a perfect fit.
i cant decide between your exxhaust for sale or a FMIC for my next mod decitions decitions
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: rio_gti on 15 October 2012, 11:13
top work mate looks like a perfect fit.
i cant decide between your exxhaust for sale or a FMIC for my next mod decitions decitions

Cheers bud, I'd say exhaust, it's less of a ball ache than doin this cooler, and its cheaper, and you'll notice more difference- performance and sound..... But I would say that!!!!   :grin:  :laugh:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 15 October 2012, 18:09
I just need to get one of them bumpers now  :grin:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: GTi_James on 15 October 2012, 18:21
I seen one of them before, then it took off  :laugh:

looks ace though, wish i had the spare funds for the petrol aftermath though  :sad: as i would be all over this like a rash
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 15 October 2012, 18:25
complete ball ache gettin mine lined up as Rio knows!
mine is lower to the ground too, due to a mistake on my part  :whistle:

Looks  :cool: already Rio, lets hope you get the piping sorted, have you ordered it all yet?
I have some left over from mine, a couple of ali 45 degree ones and some other random silicone parts too
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Chris#101 on 15 October 2012, 19:32
Rio chap, struggling to reply to your pms, so il post in here  :smiley:

this was the outcome of my 45* pipe

(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w455/Chriselvinmx/p11_zps37f42cb6.jpg)

how it sits

(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w455/Chriselvinmx/2012-10-14150412_zps810bf85b.jpg)

(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w455/Chriselvinmx/2012-10-14150358_zps74e7ffa9.jpg)

I can see why nikki only managed to get 231bhp from my set up now  :shocked:... Old VS New

(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w455/Chriselvinmx/p5_zpsfd8f873d.jpg)
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: rio_gti on 15 October 2012, 19:43
Petrol aftermath??

I put the bumper on first to see the lowest it could go... But I won't get it any higher than it is now!!!!

Nice one, I'ma pm u Dalo  :wink:

Nice one Chris that looks the nuts, that sits perfect did you use a 90 red. Off the core on the r/h/s and a 45 red off the car on the l/h/s? Also what cooler did u use
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Chris#101 on 16 October 2012, 17:41
Nice one Chris that looks the nuts, that sits perfect did you use a 90 red. Off the core on the r/h/s and a 45 red off the car on the l/h/s? Also what cooler did u use

Cheers bud really pleased with how its all come together cosidering there just bends and lenths.

Im running a toysports cooler not as big as the welly cooler, but Im running  devils own Water methanol injection kit so my intake temps are going to be insanely low compared to the welly cooler anyway.

For the cold side Im using my original hard pipe as it was already 2.5" as apposed to the hotside which was 1.75"  :rolleyes:

cold side
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/SHORTY14_2006/2012-02-18102239.jpg)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/SHORTY14_2006/2012-02-26170051.jpg)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/SHORTY14_2006/2012-02-26170145.jpg)

Hot side from cooler; a 63mm 90* silicone bend, 63mm 90* alloy bend, 63mm 90* silicone bend, 63mm 300mm straight alloy coupler, 63mm 45* Silicone bend, 63mm 45* alloy bend (with n75 & dv take offs), 63mm 90* silicone, 63mm alloy couple 100mm long, 63mm-45mm Silicone reducer onto the turbo outlet.

hope that helps  :wink:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: rio_gti on 16 October 2012, 18:17

Hot side from cooler; a 63mm 90* silicone bend, 63mm 90* alloy bend, 63mm 90* silicone bend, 63mm 300mm straight alloy coupler, 63mm 45* Silicone bend, 63mm 45* alloy bend (with n75 & dv take offs), 63mm 90* silicone, 63mm alloy couple 100mm long, 63mm-45mm Silicone reducer onto the turbo outlet.

hope that helps  :wink:

top man!!... would love that cold side pipe but they wont sell it seperatly  :sad:

do you recon this 100mm pipe would be too close to the turbo to have the d/v and n75 take off on it??
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: cooki on 16 October 2012, 23:19
When ordering/fitting a FMIC do I need to keep an eye out for the MAP sensor flange,aswell as the dv&n75 takeoffs??
I'd always just thort that all I needed was the MAP sensor flange???
Well confused now.
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Chris#101 on 17 October 2012, 12:27

Hot side from cooler; a 63mm 90* silicone bend, 63mm 90* alloy bend, 63mm 90* silicone bend, 63mm 300mm straight alloy coupler, 63mm 45* Silicone bend, 63mm 45* alloy bend (with n75 & dv take offs), 63mm 90* silicone, 63mm alloy couple 100mm long, 63mm-45mm Silicone reducer onto the turbo outlet.

hope that helps  :wink:

top man!!... would love that cold side pipe but they wont sell it seperatly  :sad:

do you recon this 100mm pipe would be too close to the turbo to have the d/v and n75 take off on it??

yer I was quite fortunate that the cold side already 2.5", dunno why they had to restrict the hot side to 1.75" :sick:


My 100mm alloy joiner isnt even visible as both the silicone joints touch because of the restricted height issue. So had to use the alloy.45* for take off points
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Chris#101 on 17 October 2012, 12:31
When ordering/fitting a FMIC do I need to keep an eye out for the MAP sensor flange,aswell as the dv&n75 takeoffs??
I'd always just thort that all I needed was the MAP sensor flange???
Well confused now.

What weve done is DIY'd a fmic kit ie brought eve ything individual. If your buying a kit it should already have the take offs needed. If it doesnt have a map flange forge sell them for £40 then you just need.to get it welded :wink:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: rio_gti on 17 October 2012, 12:44

Hot side from cooler; a 63mm 90* silicone bend, 63mm 90* alloy bend, 63mm 90* silicone bend, 63mm 300mm straight alloy coupler, 63mm 45* Silicone bend, 63mm 45* alloy bend (with n75 & dv take offs), 63mm 90* silicone, 63mm alloy couple 100mm long, 63mm-45mm Silicone reducer onto the turbo outlet.

hope that helps  :wink:

top man!!... would love that cold side pipe but they wont sell it seperatly  :sad:

do you recon this 100mm pipe would be too close to the turbo to have the d/v and n75 take off on it??

yer I was quite fortunate that the cold side already 2.5", dunno why they had to restrict the hot side to 1.75" :sick:


My 100mm alloy joiner isnt even visible as both the silicone joints touch because of the restricted height issue. So had to use the alloy.45* for take off points

if this is with 150mm legs can it be cut down or did you have to cut the 90 on top of the turbo (100 mm ally pipe) down to fit?
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: scarr89 on 17 October 2012, 13:25
I'm pretty sure I'v seen smaller cars than that IC! It's hugeeeeee!!

What sort of gain are you hoping to achieve from it?  :smiley:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: rio_gti on 17 October 2012, 15:16
I'm pretty sure I'v seen smaller cars than that IC! It's hugeeeeee!!

What sort of gain are you hoping to achieve from it?  :smiley:

 :grin:

gonna be going hybrid so the standard side mount wouldnt be any good  :nerd:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: cooki on 18 October 2012, 10:38
When ordering/fitting a FMIC do I need to keep an eye out for the MAP sensor flange,aswell as the dv&n75 takeoffs??
I'd always just thort that all I needed was the MAP sensor flange???
Well confused now.

What weve done is DIY'd a fmic kit ie brought eve ything individual. If your buying a kit it should already have the take offs needed. If it doesnt have a map flange forge sell them for £40 then you just need.to get it welded :wink:

Mines turning in to a bit or a diy kit its self mate.i no i can get the map flange from awsome gti or forge and the dv take off is already fitted but what did u use for a n75 valve take off?is it jist a smaller version of the dv take off??
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: rio_gti on 10 February 2013, 22:17
just thought i would put the results of the intake temps up as its now running.

wasnt to redline but at:

5200rpm the standard intercooler was at 36 degrees c
5200rpm the 'beast' was showing at 12 degrees c

very pleased at the results  :smiley:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Toby on 10 February 2013, 22:42
just thought i would put the results of the intake temps up as its now running.

wasnt to redline but at:

5200rpm the standard intercooler was at 36 degrees c
5200rpm the 'beast' was showing at 12 degrees c

very pleased at the results  :smiley:

So good for the price!!
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Chris#101 on 10 February 2013, 22:53
Now add Meth injection into the equation  :wink: ......... :laugh:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Granta Gti on 10 February 2013, 22:55
Good results! Does it feel like it has more torque?
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: rio_gti on 10 February 2013, 23:03
Now add Meth injection into the equation  :wink: ......... :laugh:

What will that bring them down to...... NO NO NO more monies to spend!!! NOOOO

Good results! Does it feel like it has more torque?

Don't really know as its a bit too wet to give it any beans!!! Will have to wait for a dry day to log results for any lag ect..

Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: rio_gti on 10 February 2013, 23:11
Also more pics  :smiley:

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/AADE8BA3-D1B2-44FF-95C0-84662F17D47C-2428-0000016C40C98955.jpg)

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/C3EA5B7A-6843-4926-8941-F666A0255CCF-6512-000003AC9C4626B0.jpg)

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/2C2A1A93-F251-4F08-8F6E-6C4E0BEAD2E8-6206-0000036111669839.jpg)

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/66E1BC4F-7017-4D45-BAAE-B642DCB92D77-8320-00000478C60E68F7.jpg)

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/EE09B7E9-6166-4E03-9A8F-D8E55E04A367-2896-000001F9325CED90_zps66c2312d.jpg)

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/6223e7da-42a0-4dfd-a516-cbbd1b8f94be_zps5192d301.jpg)

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/F8D9A5F6-E84E-4646-A95A-BE85BEA1CD98-1882-000001439E1B4EA0_zps93cda110.jpg)

(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/11DB8181-D55D-4D9C-97B1-C0C54F17FBD1-1882-000001439A372BAF_zpsb5ce205f.jpg)



Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: rio_gti on 02 March 2013, 19:34
just done a bit of logging and the intake temp was as low as 4 degrees!!!!

just thought i would throw it out there!!!!
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: asboGTI on 02 March 2013, 21:45
It looks awersome in real life aswell  :tongue:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: jonrandom on 02 March 2013, 23:56
glad you have had to cut into to the bumper that much as well, makes me feel better chopping the f**k out of mine!  :smiley:

just done a bit of logging and the intake temp was as low as 4 degrees!!!!

just thought i would throw it out there!!!!

 :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 03 March 2013, 08:45
Rio, can't wait to pitch this against mine  :wink:
Doing some good work on it mate, keep it up
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: rio_gti on 03 March 2013, 10:37
Rio, can't wait to pitch this against mine  :wink:
Doing some good work on it mate, keep it up

Yeah deffo like seein lately loads of work goin into alot of these cars  :smiley:

Cheers mate I will!!!!
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Nino on 03 March 2013, 11:55
That look really really good mate :)
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: asboGTI on 04 March 2013, 10:20
mine an rios cars will be very similar when we are both finished te only real difference will the turbos i believe as mine will be a slightly different k03s hybrid to rios one
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 04 March 2013, 19:38
I'm in the ARZ club  :kiss:
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: asboGTI on 04 March 2013, 20:03
You 2 are still well ahead of me
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: beppe2672 on 04 March 2013, 20:13
mine an rios cars will be very similar when we are both finished te only real difference will the turbos i believe as mine will be a slightly different k03s hybrid to rios one

What spec hybrid are you going for asbo mate?
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: asboGTI on 04 March 2013, 20:15
All I know is 300bhp it will flow I will find out more when I pick it up I literally drop off ans had to rush home due to my kitchen being turned into a swimming pool by my mum and me being closer than my dad once I know spec ans everything I will post up for you
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: beppe2672 on 04 March 2013, 20:19
Ok mate, just it seems like there's loads of us going the hybrid route at the moment, would be good to see the end results!
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: asboGTI on 04 March 2013, 20:21
I think it's because of the ease of fitting it all from where I stand
Title: Re: started fitting 'the beast' *pics*
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 05 March 2013, 12:17
I already had my K03s and got it for a bargain (it had covered 16k) and I paid £250