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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: davemk4 on 27 September 2012, 23:09
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hi guys
ive had a search and couldnt seem to find a spot on answer.
for the best sound and a increase in umpf is the k+n typhoon filter kit the best or what?
i know the 007p dv the best. but if wanting to have abit more noise can anything be done without sounding like a scobbie or having to buy the £170 forge blow off valve/splitter/ recirc valve?
and are the ebay intercoolers ok for 240bhp ish?
thats it for now :smiley:
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You'll find lots of info on DV and induction kits on the search. But as for wanting some noise and not scoobie style go for a 007p or 008 and an induction kit/ turbo back exhaust and you'll hear the air dumping.
I have the 008 and I can hear it some times without mods, but rarely.
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welcome!!
think k+n filters have to be oiled so avoid these as they will break the maf, so go for a sponge/cotton filter like pipercross or similar.
with a cai you will hear a rec dump really loud (not as loud as a scooby thou) sounds nice
also dont go with a cheap ebay intercooler as you will be replacing it for a much better one when you have the bug for more power so do yourself a favour and buy a decient one now :wink:
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Hi! I use a baileys recirc valve, louder then the 007p (even without the CAI) and runs sweet as. I would be very careful about using a cold air feed in winter, suck up any water and your gonna be looking a bent valves (been there done that)
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Cheers for advice. I wont be after any more umpf than an stage 2 map to 240ish. I cant warrant the700 price tag for the forge one. And more power would be long after. K&n are defo oilled so same issue as my current motor. Oil+mafs no likey.
I had a 007p on my audi a4 1.8t and it was louder than stock for sure just would like a tad more without sounding silly.
I need to get all this right first time round as once i get tge car im going to fit a cat back with decat and a performance manifold. Then a fmic along with a uprated dv and air filter then straight to mapping
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Tbh mate with Front Mounts you can have a shop about, me and toby both running KO4's with 270+ bhp and we are both using the XS power front mount that cost £100 :wink:
*edit* £100 - with NO pipework....that cost more then the cooler :whistle:
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Could run monster sized smic like tyrolsport one good for 350whp cost £700 and only from the states, quality 2nd to non. Mine up for sale pretty soon :grin:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a197/shaft69/vwgli76.jpg)
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Don't get confused with turborev rubbish smic, these biggest and best smic avaliable.
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Hi! I use a baileys recirc valve, louder then the 007p (even without the CAI) and runs sweet as. I would be very careful about using a cold air feed in winter, suck up any water and your gonna be looking a bent valves (been there done that)
RUBBISH.
how is it possible for a CAI to suck up water and travel past the turbo without damaging the turbo all the way through the charge pipes (thats a long way) up to the throttle body into the inlet and into the engine?
if a CAI sucked up enough water to cause damaged then you got to get it past the turbo, as soon as the water hits the turbo the turbo would stall and you would lose all pressure in the pipes and the water couldn't travel any further.
sorry ashmond but if you ask me its a myth.
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if you go through very deep puddles there is a chance of sucking up some water if the cai is sat to low as for causing damage i dont know but it has happenened on my mates type r and bent the valves as he was using a similar cai to the mk4 setup
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yea cully i can understand on a type r as the as cai is directly connected to the throttle body, where as a turbo car is different the water has to travel past the turbo which in my eyes seems impossible as the turbo would just stall.
a little amount of water in the inlet is good as you've seen with water injection.
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yea cully i can understand on a type r as the as cai is directly connected to the throttle body, where as a turbo car is different the water has to travel past the turbo which in my eyes seems impossible as the turbo would just stall.
a little amount of water in the inlet is good as you've seen with water injection.
yes i was thinking the same aswell :smiley:
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If read at bottom see what people who make CAI say!!!!
http://www.neuspeed.com/31/11/0/1525/651076-neuspeed-race-series-cold-air-intake-kit.html
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If read at bottom see what people who make CAI say!!!!
http://www.neuspeed.com/31/11/0/1525/651076-neuspeed-race-series-cold-air-intake-kit.html
Yes shaft69 read it, now what part of that sentence states about water getting into the engine??? NONE!!!
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Even if the Turbo stale the would still be vacuume from the inlet manifold sucking the water into the engine like a n/a car does.
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Even if the Turbo stale the would still be vacuume from the inlet manifold sucking the water into the engine like a n/a car does.
if the turbo stalls then the engine will cut out. Have you ever had a boost pipe pop off? same thing.
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Yews I have had a boost pipe pop off, the engine didn't stall tho just had no boost, drove the extra 100m home, had a look and found it had popped off.
If the turbo stalled the engine wouldn't cut out as it doesn't take boost at idle so it wouldn't make a difference and you would still have vacuume from the manifold which would suck the water in
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Bloody hell mate you must have a special car then cuz when mine blows a pipe off the engine will stop as there's unmetered air entering the system what do you think the MAF is for?
So your telling me that the engine wouldn't stop after gallons of water has just hit the turbo?
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So your tellin me when ever the mafs reading isn't right the engine cuts out?? No it just runs badly
And yeah otherwise there wouldn't be people out there who have hydrolysed their engines...
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So your tellin me when ever the mafs reading isn't right the engine cuts out?? No it just runs badly
And yeah otherwise there wouldn't be people out there who have hydrolysed their engines...
I'll do a video for you tomorrow mate to prove my point.
i will believe it when i see it
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Lol ive started summit here havnt i.
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So your tellin me when ever the mafs reading isn't right the engine cuts out?? No it just runs badly
And yeah otherwise there wouldn't be people out there who have hydrolysed their engines...
I'll do a video for you tomorrow mate to prove my point.
i will believe it when i see it
Well sort mate but I don't really care about any vids as I know that I hve driven with a boost pipe off before.
People have boost/vacuume leaks etc all te time and the and the car runs just not very nicely.
And 1.8t have been hydro locked before So it is possible.
Your car doesn't used the turbo at low rpm so why would it stalling affect the engine running?
Lol ive started summit here havnt i.
Yeah sorry mate I'm my normally one up for arguing but the dunndeal guy always seem ready to argue.
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Hey im the newbie i cant pass comments on these things yet :-)
If i fit cat back and decat this will put management light on does it matter? I will be getting a remap but might not be able to do it straight after cat back fitting?
Found some performance manifolds to fit at same time are they worth doing?
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It will be fine until its mapped mate just keep scanning it every now and then to make sure there arny any other codes, as you won't be able to tell as the engine light will always be on.
Personally I don't think buying a manifold is worth it with the power your looking for.
Should be fine standard or just remove your current one and port it :cool:
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That good to know. So manifold only worth it for big mods etc. 240bhp roughly is ample for me coming from a old 120k 175bhp primera. As i want £££ left over for light, coilover window tints etc. As it going to cost a good 1500+ to get all me power toys as it is. Cannot wait to get my golf. I hate saving i want it now! :-(
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Yeah I'm running about 260bhp (yet to go on the rollers again) and I have jut ported my manifold which was sufficient :cool:
:laugh: money is always the issue
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yer tell me about it. the anniversary editions dont half hold there money dont they!