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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: JellyCat on 19 September 2012, 22:20

Title: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: JellyCat on 19 September 2012, 22:20
ok I suspect this could well end up being a hot topic \ picked up on search results but....

I love my iPhone 4 and always connect it to my Golf via the MDI in order to browse and control music content via my RCD510.

I've pre-ordered an iPhone 5.... I bet you can see where this is going....

From postings I'm starting to see problems ahead regarding connectivity via the MDI connector.

Ok VW don't have a new MDI connector for the new iphone5 Lightning port (can't blame VW on this as all car makers maybe in the same boat here).

So that leaves us lot having to buy the new £25 + VAT connector (which also does digital to analogue conversion).

There is a video posting of an Apple SVP doing a customer demo with an iPhone 5 connected to an Audi \ VW MDI 30pin Apple connector using one of the new lightning adapters.
After seeing that thought ah ok cool - it works! But....

Although it looks like it does support audio out, this set up might not allow you to manage content accessed via the RCD510's interface due to the removal of the iPod out support (which some car makers use to allow iPods \ iPhones to be controlled via the cars head unit.

So there is a chance it play back audio, but the head unit might not allow you to select tracks \ change to pod casts etc. etc.

Ok so when I get my iPhone 5 on the 21st I should be able to test and find out???
WRONG!

The new adapter does not ship until Oct. So therefore I have my nice new iPhone 5 but will not be able to test against my car until I get an adaptor. If it doesn't work then it will be too late to return the iPhone (not sure if I want it unless I can use via the mdi connector).

Another way.... use the adaptor to charge the phone - use Bluetooth to connect the iPhone 5 to the RCD510?
Sadly no as I don't have Bluetooth on the golf (I do on my other car - a Tiguan), but would be buggered on the GTI.

So options for me:

1) If the adapter which ships in Oct works then cool! all ok (just cost me about another £30 on top of the phone).

2) If the adapter allow me to manage content, I can at least charge the phone but will also need to shell out about £300ish for a blue tooth upgrade to the RCD510 so I can control the iPhone’s content.

3) wait for VW to release an iPhone 5 \ lightning compatible MDI cable - by then when VW get around to producing  it, and VW UK test and approve it (the latter will take a 99 years to complete I suspect)- I guess the iPhone 15 will have just been released.

I'll report back in Oct if the adapter does allow you to control content or not (unless further news comes out before hand).
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: p3asa on 20 September 2012, 00:30
Wait and get your iphone until October?
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: andyr on 20 September 2012, 08:38
Leave the 'old' Iphone 4 in the car?  :laugh:
Get a memory stick and use that?  :cool:

Good old Apple, create a standard, get everyone on the planet to buy speakers/cables/interfaces etc, then...... wham!   :angry:
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: Big_Dave on 20 September 2012, 09:08
I can't blame Apple for changing the connector if we're honest, there was a serious packaging floor!

I would imagine at £25 the adaptor will be the bees knees, and will allow you to control the iphone from the car.

I'm in the same boat, i get my 5 tomorrow.

Unfortunately, you cannot control your phone music through the stereo controls when connected through Bluetooth...you have to choose on the phone (with the exception of pressing 'next/preious' track button)

However, on the off chance the adaptor from Apple doesn't allow you to control the iPhone from the stereo, I imagine that it won't be long before one of the Korean/Japanese eBay specials does allow you to!
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: AndyG on 20 September 2012, 09:16
When I get my next iPhone I'm going to get a cheap payg sim card and use my old phone only in the car.The new phone will simply be diverted to car phone when I'm out & about.Also I'm going to hide the phone someplace in the car then if my car ever gets stolen I can use the 'find my phone'feature to locate the car.
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: JoeGTI on 20 September 2012, 10:02
I've read this too - the clunky "adapter" that you buy for 30 quid does not support "iPod out", so yes, I think there could be a problem with track / playlist selection via the MDI until VW release a compatible cable for the new Lightning adapter! That'll be another 30 or 40 quid! Talk about a money racket.

That said, I hardly ever use mine. I tend to use either the HD in the RNS itself or the Bluetooth connection.

As others have suggested, I would advise just using a cheap-ass old iPod or your old phone and just leave it permanently connected to the MDI.
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: dubber36 on 20 September 2012, 10:25
Here's a thought, why not just keep your old phone that you know works and save yourself a bag full of loot in the process?  :huh:
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: Mr GTD on 20 September 2012, 10:50
Is the iPhone 5 really that much better than the 4s? and Is it really worth all this effort... :undecided:
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: Big_Dave on 20 September 2012, 12:42
Here's a thought, why not just keep your old phone that you know works and save yourself a bag full of loot in the process?  :huh:

This was my thoughtline, until I realised that I can make over £200 out of Vodafone from getting a 5?! :shocked:

Makes a mockery of the people spending hundreds already queueing outside Apple Stores  :grin: :evil:
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: dubber36 on 20 September 2012, 13:22
How can you make £200?  :huh:
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: p3asa on 20 September 2012, 15:13
Neither a fanboy of either phones but love the new Samsung S3 advert slagging the new iPhone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf5-Prx19ZM&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf5-Prx19ZM&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: ScottA on 20 September 2012, 16:20
ANDROID FTW
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: Belix on 20 September 2012, 17:18
really liked my iphone4, but feeling the itch to move...will see what the GS3 offers, and maybe even nokia again. Why can't the just use a standard connector like everybody else?
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: p3asa on 20 September 2012, 19:18
GS4 rumoured to be out in February
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47548/samsung-galaxy-s4-launch-february-2013
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: Big_Dave on 21 September 2012, 16:09
How can you make £200?  :huh:

My contracts up, and with a bit of arm bending I've gotbthe 5 free, and selling my 4 for £200  :laugh:
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: Jimmymature on 21 September 2012, 19:49
How can you make £200?  :huh:

Vodafone do buy-back so you trade in your iPhone 4 or 4S for very good money saves messing arounf on eBay etc.

http://vodafonebuyback.co.uk/?WT.srch=1&cid=ppc-goo-cbu-c93-23467-ex


Jim
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: Big_Dave on 22 September 2012, 12:20
That's the one Jim!  :cool:

Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: brown.jamesa on 23 September 2012, 07:48
Well I picked up my iPhone5 yesterday from the apple store (took less than 1 hr to wait in line and buy it  :grin:)

I have the RNS510 and the iphone5 is powered by the USB adapter using the USB-Thunderbolt cable and stream music via Bluetooth.

Also I was surprised that Siri worked when I press the button on the iPhone, it make the connection like a phone call and work for all things :-)

Anyway, as soon as the adapter is out I will purchase a retest, but I already know its not gonna work.
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: JamesR27 on 23 September 2012, 11:50
Thanks brown.jamesa

I am very interested in seeing the results of the adapter, as my contract runs out start of october so want to upgrade to the 5.
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: Jimmymature on 23 September 2012, 18:27
Thanks brown.jamesa

I am very interested in seeing the results of the adapter, as my contract runs out start of october so want to upgrade to the 5.

If you're with Vodafone you don't need to wait for your contract to run out, pop into the store and pick one up (if you can get one that is)


Jim
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: JamesR27 on 20 October 2012, 15:15
Has anyone got any updates to see if the new 30 pin - Lightening connector works now its out?
Title: Re: iphone 5 compatability with VW RCD510
Post by: Big_Dave on 21 October 2012, 12:22
Go here  :smiley:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=242219.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=242219.0)