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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: sidman on 12 September 2012, 18:40

Title: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: sidman on 12 September 2012, 18:40
Can anyone help me..? My mk4 Golf GTI T started overheating last night. So i eventually got it home and today bought a new thermostat and temp sender. I put both parts on but the fan still doesnt come on...!!!!

Ive only had the car a few weeks and starting to lose faith in it......PLEASE HELP?

Or does anyone know a reliable mobile mechanic in the Romford area...?
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: sidman on 12 September 2012, 18:58
ive just taken a fuse out of the fuse box and both fans run constantly. It was a 10amp fuse that was top left, 2nd in. Does anyone know what this means...?
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: sidman on 14 September 2012, 13:23
To add to my confusion...i got to work this morning (i only work 15 minutes from where I live so the car doesnt overheat in that distance) and the fans were going....so i left the engine running and the car still overheated.......Im starting to think it is the dreaded head gasket.....but please someone help me and give me some advise.... :-(
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: Wazzzer on 14 September 2012, 15:38
do you get water running back into the header tank via the small top pipe when it's warm?
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: sidman on 15 September 2012, 08:46
yes I do so I know the water pump is working.......

ive done a bit more research and im gonna test the fans today to see if they run at both speeds....and im leaning towards the fan module now
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: turbokid23 on 15 September 2012, 09:26
Sound a bit mad but have you thought about your thermostat?
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: sidman on 15 September 2012, 10:34
ive replaced the thermostat and the temp sender...

Just had a diagnostic tool come in the post today and its throwing up error code 16501 which is the temp sender that i have replaced....im gonna take the pipe off for the water pump return to the reservoir and see if the water is pumping through......this one has stumped me
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: barrym381 on 15 September 2012, 10:37
you might get some water comin through the return even if the waterpump is f**ked
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: Wazzzer on 15 September 2012, 10:43
you got climate or just air con? Genuine temp sender?
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: sidman on 15 September 2012, 10:53
ive got climate control and i got the temp sender from VW so it is genuine part...

Are there any other tests i can do to see if the water pump has had it...?
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: barrym381 on 15 September 2012, 10:58
did you check the thermo before fittin it  :smiley:
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: sidman on 15 September 2012, 11:07
i didnt....how do i test it....?
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: barrym381 on 15 September 2012, 11:08
drop it in boiling water see if it opens
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: sidman on 15 September 2012, 11:09
sorry...thought you meant the temp sender switch.....

Yes i did test the thermostat in boiling water and it did open
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: barrym381 on 15 September 2012, 11:14
did you check the return pipe to see if anythin is coming through it
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: Wazzzer on 15 September 2012, 11:50
very common for the fan module to give up if you've got climate
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: sidman on 15 September 2012, 12:36
i ahve just done another scan for fault codes and its come up with this:


VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.1
Saturday, 15 September 2012, 12:33:22.


Chassis Type: 1J - VW Golf/Bora IV
Scan: 01,02,03,08,15,16,17,19,22,29,35,36,37,39,46,47,55,56,57,75,76
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Controller: 06A 906 018 CG
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT MOTR HS D02
   Coding: 04000
   Shop #: WSC 00028
   VCID: 69A53EA70077
No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes       Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ABS.LBL
   Controller: 1J0 907 379 Q
   Component: ABS/EDS 20 IE CAN  0001
   Coding: 13504
   Shop #: WSC 00028
   VCID: 3FF1C0FF2E73
No fault code found.


Any ideas...?

And water was flowing through the return pipe fine
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: sidman on 15 September 2012, 14:12
right, a quick update.....

I have been reading through other threads and it said another way to test the water pump is to get the car up to temperature and turn on the heaters. If they blow hot air then the pump is ok. But if they blow cold air the pump has had it...and guess what......mine was blowing cold air...think a new water pump is on the cards......
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: barrym381 on 15 September 2012, 14:18
if the belt has not been done in a few years do that aswell while you have it off  :smiley:
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: itavaltalainen on 15 September 2012, 14:27
just one thought: temp sender does not equal fan thermo switch.... does the fan run if contacts at the switch connector are bridged? If yes, then most likely a faulty switch.
Title: Re: Need Help...!!! Radiator fan not working.....
Post by: sidman on 15 September 2012, 15:51
yeah im gonna get the belt done as well.....

And yes the fans do run when the connections are bridged....but ironically the fans are working....think i might of been having a bit of a moment and turning off the ignition without me realising......

But i would just like to thank each and every one of you for your help and information.....Thank You