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General => The garage => Topic started by: james c on 11 September 2012, 22:47
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puting a 150 bhp turbo on my mrk4 golf which has a blown 130 turbo on it at the minute (til tomoro)....with a remap what kind of extra power / torque will i get ... Intercooler has being upgraded (http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/martin02wx/Facebook/my%20car/546734_466830396682553_937283077_n.jpg)
fabricated pipes and fittings , no leaks a tall (http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/martin02wx/Facebook/my%20car/305104_466829593349300_453009074_n.jpg)
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2.1 bar!!??? :shocked: :shocked:
Hope you got shares in Garret Turbos :laugh: :laugh:
130 with a 150 turbo and properly mapped should see around the 210bhp+ mark :smiley:
EDIT - re-read and see the OP is putting a STANDARD 150 turbo on the car
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210 Rhyso!?
Really...So does that mean that a properly mapped 150, say with a upg FMIC healthy clutch and turbo, would reach over 210? :undecided:
The 130 has smaller injectors........ :shocked:
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210 Rhyso!?
Really...So does that mean that a properly mapped 150, say with a upg FMIC healthy clutch and turbo, would reach over 210? :undecided:
The 130 has smaller injectors........ :shocked:
130 has the same injectors :wink:
210 is for a non-smoky map :wink: Anything approaching 220bhp+ is approaching the limits of the injectors in terms of duty cycle and duration
150 would need a hybrid turbo too to reach over 200bhp
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Really? :shocked: I thought the difference were the IC and the injectors?...You know more than me :lipsrsealed: :rolleyes:
So then the only differences ARE the IC and the map? :undecided:
But still, how would a 130 'easily' make 200+ and a 150 could? Surely if you put the same upgrades on a 150 then it would see more if not the same? :huh:
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Turbo and intercooler are the differences
That's what I meant; put the same (uprated) turbo on the 150 and it will make the same power as the 130 with an uprated turbo and intercooler :nerd:
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Turbo and intercooler are the differences
That's what I meant; put the same (uprated) turbo on the 150 and it will make the same power as the 130 with an uprated turbo and intercooler :nerd:
But the OP is talking about putting a 150 turbo on his 130...So then it would basically be an ARL with a better FMIC...I think I follow what you are saying :embarrassed: :tongue:
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Turbo and intercooler are the differences
That's what I meant; put the same (uprated) turbo on the 150 and it will make the same power as the 130 with an uprated turbo and intercooler :nerd:
But the OP is talking about putting a 150 turbo on his 130...So then it would basically be an ARL with a better FMIC...I think I follow what you are saying :embarrassed: :tongue:
You got it :wink:
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210 Rhyso!?
Really...So does that mean that a properly mapped 150, say with a upg FMIC healthy clutch and turbo, would reach over 210? :undecided:
The 130 has smaller injectors........ :shocked:
130 has the same injectors :wink:
210 is for a non-smoky map :wink: Anything approaching 220bhp+ is approaching the limits of the injectors in terms of duty cycle and duration
150 would need a hybrid turbo too to reach over 200bhp
clutch nd fly wheel has being upgraded two , i coped dat they are the first tins to go wit a heavy map ,
if i get the injectors off a 150 would dey suit or would i be pushin it
i beat one of the lads in a 215 bhp golf before the turbo went , wit the 150 shud i not get a bit more ?
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210 Rhyso!?
Really...So does that mean that a properly mapped 150, say with a upg FMIC healthy clutch and turbo, would reach over 210? :undecided:
The 130 has smaller injectors........ :shocked:
130 has the same injectors :wink:
210 is for a non-smoky map :wink: Anything approaching 220bhp+ is approaching the limits of the injectors in terms of duty cycle and duration
150 would need a hybrid turbo too to reach over 200bhp
clutch nd fly wheel has being upgraded two , i coped dat they are the first tins to go wit a heavy map ,
if i get the injectors off a 150 would dey suit or would i be pushin it
i beat one of the lads in a 215 bhp golf before the turbo went , wit the 150 shud i not get a bit more ?
130 and 150 have the same injectors
Just-re-reading the OP - if you are putting a STANDARD 150 turbo on a 130 then you'll see around 190bhp+
If its a hybrid 150 turbo then 210bhp+
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sorry man , i was bit comfused myself there
i get u now
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il be doing it myself , may tackle taking out the turbo today
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210 Rhyso!?
Really...So does that mean that a properly mapped 150, say with a upg FMIC healthy clutch and turbo, would reach over 210? :undecided:
The 130 has smaller injectors........ :shocked:
130 has the same injectors :wink:
210 is for a non-smoky map :wink: Anything approaching 220bhp+ is approaching the limits of the injectors in terms of duty cycle and duration
150 would need a hybrid turbo too to reach over 200bhp
clutch nd fly wheel has being upgraded two , i coped dat they are the first tins to go wit a heavy map ,
if i get the injectors off a 150 would dey suit or would i be pushin it
i beat one of the lads in a 215 bhp golf before the turbo went , wit the 150 shud i not get a bit more ?
130 and 150 have the same injectors
Just-re-reading the OP - if you are putting a STANDARD 150 turbo on a 130 then you'll see around 190bhp+
If its a hybrid 150 turbo then 210bhp+
Now we are reading of the same hymn sheet :wink: :grin:
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haha thats a lot of quotes :drool:
turbo out , did it after work ,
130 turbo spins up faster , is much more of a lag wit the 150
found a 150 bhp turbo in dublin for 700 euro inc vat :rolleyes:
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haha thats a lot of quotes :drool:
turbo out , did it after work ,
130 turbo spins up faster , is much more of a lag wit the 150
found a 150 bhp turbo in dublin for 700 euro inc vat :rolleyes:
Goood effort mate. Yes the internals are different, the 130 is pokeier, if that's even a word!
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sound mate < hahaha don't think it is , but sure I get you all the same ha :smiley:
150's are faster top end
130's are faster from start
mine was fast start to 140 den at a steady paise kept going
id love a twin stage hybrid turbo
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IMO a well tuned 130pd "feels" much more fun vs a 150pd AND hybid.#
330lbft near enough instantly is what I like about the 130PD... Thats why I have just brought my self a 2005 Ibiza 130pd, I need to find the turbo torque limits at stage2.
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IMO a well tuned 130pd "feels" much more fun vs a 150pd AND hybid.#
330lbft near enough instantly is what I like about the 130PD... Thats why I have just brought my self a 2005 Ibiza 130pd, I need to find the turbo torque limits at stage2.
that sounds sweet !!!
So you think I should stay with the 130 bhp turbo? vs a 150
My only concern with that is, it won't stick the pressure and blow again
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Please tell me it's only peaking at 2.1bar briefly and not holding 2.1bar!!!?
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IMO a well tuned 130pd "feels" much more fun vs a 150pd AND hybid.#
330lbft near enough instantly is what I like about the 130PD... Thats why I have just brought my self a 2005 Ibiza 130pd, I need to find the turbo torque limits at stage2.
that sounds sweet !!!
So you think I should stay with the 130 bhp turbo? vs a 150
My only concern with that is, it won't stick the pressure and blow again
Depends how you want your power delivery. If you like whiz, bang then the 130 turbo is fine. If you want continuous, progressive power then use the 150 turbo.
After living with my 170 for two years now I much prefer how the 170 drives purely because it doesn't try and light up the wheel all the time but a large part of that could be down to a better chassis. That, and the fact it pulls hard all to the redline :evil:
Please tell me it's only peaking at 2.1bar briefly and not holding 2.1bar!!!?
Ditto! :lipsrsealed:
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Please tell me it's only peaking at 2.1bar briefly and not holding 2.1bar!!!?
peeks at 2.1 , and stays at 2 bar to the red line
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IMO a well tuned 130pd "feels" much more fun vs a 150pd AND hybid.#
330lbft near enough instantly is what I like about the 130PD... Thats why I have just brought my self a 2005 Ibiza 130pd, I need to find the turbo torque limits at stage2.
that sounds sweet !!!
So you think I should stay with the 130 bhp turbo? vs a 150
My only concern with that is, it won't stick the pressure and blow again
Depends how you want your power delivery. If you like whiz, bang then the 130 turbo is fine. If you want continuous, progressive power then use the 150 turbo.
After living with my 170 for two years now I much prefer how the 170 drives purely because it doesn't try and light up the wheel all the time but a large part of that could be down to a better chassis. That, and the fact it pulls hard all to the redline :evil:
I have had mine at 195 for four years , and it eats tyres( 19'' 235x 35x 19 ) . but it moves on :) ... I love the whiz of a 130bhp turbo but because of the pressure I am producing I don't no if will last again since I upgraded the intercooler system.
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Please tell me it's only peaking at 2.1bar briefly and not holding 2.1bar!!!?
peeks at 2.1 , and stays at 2 bar to the red line
So it peaks at 30psi and holds 29psi to the redline..........you really dont like your turbo do you???
Have you had the car on a RR and do you have the graph?? How many miles have you done in those 4 years??
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ha what you mean I don't like it man ??
I have done close to 90k in the four years, turbo owes me noting
so I am asking everyone I no the same questions
I don't want to turn down the boost as I want to keep moving forward
If I got a waste gate would it take pressure off the turbo ??
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Im simply amazed your turbo has lasted that long running those boost figures as its well above its threshold
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Im simply amazed your turbo has lasted that long running those boost figures as its well above its threshold
I am too now, that is why I don't think I will be as lucky the next time :)
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Bloody hell. I take it you have a boost gauge fitted? Budget for a new turbo soon.
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Bloody hell. I take it you have a boost gauge fitted? Budget for a new turbo soon.
yep, lasted like that for four year ... turbo blew last week :)
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Who mapped it?
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new turbo in the car :)< remap is next step , lag is unreal
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What turbo have you put on it? A well tuned map will sort it out im sure!
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new turbo in the car :)< remap is next step , lag is unreal
Actuator set up correctly??
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What turbo have you put on it? A well tuned map will sort it out im sure!
160 brake standard turbo out of a seat mate , getting it remapped this week , can not wait now .... it wil be around 210 to 220 bhp
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What turbo have you put on it? A well tuned map will sort it out im sure!
160 brake standard turbo out of a seat mate , getting it remapped this week , can not wait now .... it wil be around 210 to 220 bhp
Oh really. I didn't even know other turbos from other engines are compatible. How much bigger is it, know the exact dimensions of the internal wheels?
Where do you get the figure of 210 from may I ask? Got bigger injectors?