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Title: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: david25 on 01 September 2012, 16:42
Firstly Moderators we need a MK7 subforum on the 4th September when the car is officially released.

I've copied this from the PH forum:

Multicollision brake = no idea

Speed limiter

Front transverse diff lock = is this good?

Touch with proximity sensing = capactive touch for the ICE?

Progrssive steering = maybe good

Automatically folding mirror = at last Seat have had this for ages!

LED fog lights = sure to be an IMMEDIATE PH favorite

PreCrash = are VW borrowing technology from Minority Report?

Park Assist 2

City emergency braking = old

Fatigue detection, old but first for small hatch?

Traffic sign detection = old hat

Park pilot = what is this?

Dyanmic Light Assist = high beam thingy from BWM?

Lane assist = old, but first for small hatch?

Front assist = help please

Adaptive crusise control = old, but first for small hatch?

Electic parking brake = standard on some MK6s

Driving profile selection = normal comfort sport?

Cylinder deactivation = good

Deluxe climate window = tinted windows?

Panoramic sunroof = old

Ergonomic seats

Run-flat tyres = these better be optional!

Ambience lighting = in 1000 colours please


(http://lh5.ggpht.com/-XxChMQk1Kc0/UDbTn6wDITI/AAAAAAAItTA/30hZMniStbY/s1600/2013-Volkswagen-Golf-7-12%25255B1%25255D.jpg)

Source http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/08/first-official-teasers-of-new-2013.html

Official press release on the 4th September, this might be a leak

(http://img.tapatalk.com/42bd697a-0d06-fd9e.jpg)
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Mitching on 01 September 2012, 20:12
Just looks like a mk6 golf crossed with a scirroco.

I remember when VWs were cool.
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: AcidicDavey on 01 September 2012, 20:25
MK1 + 2 similar looks, MK3 + 4, MK5 + 6 so I thought the 7 would be very different, obviously not!
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Mr GTD on 01 September 2012, 20:43
I'm so glad I got a MK6....but those pics are pure speculation, final judgement will be preserved until there are official pics and I have seen one in the dealers...
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 01 September 2012, 20:47
"There's a new infotainment system, too, which uses a 5-inch display on entry-level models, a 5.8-inch colour display on mid-level cars and a massive 8-inch WVGA screen on range-topping models. While they’ll all be capable of controlling the audio and air-conditioning settings, high-end versions will feature 3D sat-nav and be combined with new ‘Heptactic’ touch, which senses your finger approaching the screen and switches from display to operating modes.

This is part of the increasing customer demand for technology: “We feel Haptic Touch is brand relevant. Phaeton has the same,” says Head of Electronic Development, Dr Volkmar Tanneberger.

The touchscreen can also be used to zoom in on maps, for instance, as well as select music from a 64GB hard-drive. Bluetooth, USB, auxillary and SD card connectivity, as well as the ability to read all file formats, ensure Golf owners won’t be without music."

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/59846/new-golf-official-details



Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: david25 on 01 September 2012, 21:02
Here is the real detail official technical briefing;

http://www.vwvortex.com/features/technical-features/golf-7-technicalpreview/

Tonnes of info on all the major parts.

The GTI won't need more BHP if it really is 100kg lighter.
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: tweed on 02 September 2012, 09:34
I remember when the mk5 came out and I didn't like the look of it. I now love it and want a mk5 r32

This mk7 I don't like but will grow on me that's for sure
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Phil Miller on 02 September 2012, 10:04
I remember when the mk5 came out and I didn't like the look of it. I now love it and want a mk5 r32

This mk7 I don't like but will grow on me that's for sure

like you i hated the mk5 when it was released, ive owned one for the last 3 yrs and love the car to bits, im not keen on the mk6, but tbh give it a year of driving the mk7 and working on them im sure i will love it, i read thro the list above and all i see are major issues that in 4 yrs time im gonna have to understand how they work when they start playing up :sad:
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: RedRobin on 03 September 2012, 08:53
It was love at first sight for me with the Mk5 GTI back in 2005. 103,000 miles later I'm still in love and having test driven (40-mile laps) the Mk6 back-to-back with my Mk5 I don't like the Mk6, aka Mk5.5.

The PH list on the Mk7 has some features which already put me off but we'll see.

All those detection and assistant features, and especially "Speed Limiter", do not bode well.
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Wazzzer on 03 September 2012, 09:32
Mk3 and mk4 - similar looks. Are you serious?!
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: F17BAD on 03 September 2012, 10:36
Mk3 and mk4 - similar looks. Are you serious?!

They are to some extent

A lot of people think mine is a mk4, well usually girls or people who are not thst savvy

Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Hurdy on 03 September 2012, 11:23
It was love at first sight for me with the Mk5 GTI back in 2005. 103,000 miles later I'm still in love and having test driven (40-mile laps) the Mk6 back-to-back with my Mk5 I don't like the Mk6, aka Mk5.5.

The PH list on the Mk7 has some features which already put me off but we'll see.

All those detection and assistant features, and especially "Speed Limiter", do not bode well.

I've only just made the switch to a mkvi. Probably means I'll get a MKVII when the viii comes out!  :laugh:

I too didn't like the mkvi when it came out and the only one I'd consider is the one I ended up with. There's bound to be a MKVII that is right for me at some point.  :cool:
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: abc2012 on 03 September 2012, 14:32
The MK2 and MK3 rears look similar at times.

Everyone will flame but when they are a mild distance away the shape of the window and position of lights are very similar.
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Guy on 03 September 2012, 14:46
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/-XxChMQk1Kc0/UDbTn6wDITI/AAAAAAAItTA/30hZMniStbY/s1600/2013-Volkswagen-Golf-7-12%25255B1%25255D.jpg)

has anyone else noticed that the lifespan of each variant is getting smaller and smaller... the difference in years between model releases goes something along the lines of 9, 8, 6, 6, 5, 4.. hardly seems worth it... especially after you have to wait so long for one with the special lights and checked seating combo that you ordered... and the GTi came out even later didn't it?

makes the point of owning a new GTi seem even more pointless  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: simonpolly on 03 September 2012, 18:28
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/-XxChMQk1Kc0/UDbTn6wDITI/AAAAAAAItTA/30hZMniStbY/s1600/2013-Volkswagen-Golf-7-12%25255B1%25255D.jpg)

has anyone else noticed that the lifespan of each variant is getting smaller and smaller... the difference in years between model releases goes something along the lines of 9, 8, 6, 6, 5, 4.. hardly seems worth it... especially after you have to wait so long for one with the special lights and checked seating combo that you ordered... and the GTi came out even later didn't it?

makes the point of owning a new GTi seem even more pointless  :smiley:

If the gti comes out later  with each variant then the time between the release of the GTi will surely stay the same  :undecided:
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Guy on 03 September 2012, 19:50
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/-XxChMQk1Kc0/UDbTn6wDITI/AAAAAAAItTA/30hZMniStbY/s1600/2013-Volkswagen-Golf-7-12%25255B1%25255D.jpg)

has anyone else noticed that the lifespan of each variant is getting smaller and smaller... the difference in years between model releases goes something along the lines of 9, 8, 6, 6, 5, 4.. hardly seems worth it... especially after you have to wait so long for one with the special lights and checked seating combo that you ordered... and the GTi came out even later didn't it?

makes the point of owning a new GTi seem even more pointless  :smiley:

If the gti comes out later  with each variant then the time between the release of the GTi will surely stay the same  :undecided:

how did you work that one out?  :huh:
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: simonpolly on 03 September 2012, 20:05
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/-XxChMQk1Kc0/UDbTn6wDITI/AAAAAAAItTA/30hZMniStbY/s1600/2013-Volkswagen-Golf-7-12%25255B1%25255D.jpg)

has anyone else noticed that the lifespan of each variant is getting smaller and smaller... the difference in years between model releases goes something along the lines of 9, 8, 6, 6, 5, 4.. hardly seems worth it... especially after you have to wait so long for one with the special lights and checked seating combo that you ordered... and the GTi came out even later didn't it?

makes the point of owning a new GTi seem even more pointless  :smiley:

If the gti comes out later  with each variant then the time between the release of the GTi will surely stay the same  :undecided:

how did you work that one out?  :huh:

If the GTi is released 6 months after new variant release then you would have to wait until the new variant had been released for 6months until you could get a new GTi.

Eg mk6 released 10/08 mk6 GTi released 5/09, mk7 released 10/12 mk7 GTi released 5/13

All times are approx but you get my jist  :smiley:

I'm purely talking about the gti in reply to it being pointless owning a new GTi
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Guy on 03 September 2012, 20:28
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/-XxChMQk1Kc0/UDbTn6wDITI/AAAAAAAItTA/30hZMniStbY/s1600/2013-Volkswagen-Golf-7-12%25255B1%25255D.jpg)

has anyone else noticed that the lifespan of each variant is getting smaller and smaller... the difference in years between model releases goes something along the lines of 9, 8, 6, 6, 5, 4.. hardly seems worth it... especially after you have to wait so long for one with the special lights and checked seating combo that you ordered... and the GTi came out even later didn't it?

makes the point of owning a new GTi seem even more pointless  :smiley:

If the gti comes out later  with each variant then the time between the release of the GTi will surely stay the same  :undecided:

how did you work that one out?  :huh:

If the GTi is released 6 months after new variant release then you would have to wait until the new variant had been released for 6months until you could get a new GTi.

Eg mk6 released 10/08 mk6 GTi released 5/09, mk7 released 10/12 mk7 GTi released 5/13

All times are approx but you get my jist  :smiley:

I'm purely talking about the gti in reply to it being pointless owning a new GTi

you've missed my point entirely... timeframes between model releases are becoming shorter... and with the release of the GTi variant being later than the model new model release, the amount of time the new owner has of owning the 'latest model' is being reduced.

it doesn't matter about the timeframe between GTi releases, as people will only concentrate on the release of the new model, whether or not there is a GTi in that release... so if you have a GTi it will still become 'the old' model at that point.
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: simonpolly on 03 September 2012, 20:30
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/-XxChMQk1Kc0/UDbTn6wDITI/AAAAAAAItTA/30hZMniStbY/s1600/2013-Volkswagen-Golf-7-12%25255B1%25255D.jpg)

has anyone else noticed that the lifespan of each variant is getting smaller and smaller... the difference in years between model releases goes something along the lines of 9, 8, 6, 6, 5, 4.. hardly seems worth it... especially after you have to wait so long for one with the special lights and checked seating combo that you ordered... and the GTi came out even later didn't it?

makes the point of owning a new GTi seem even more pointless  :smiley:

If the gti comes out later  with each variant then the time between the release of the GTi will surely stay the same  :undecided:

how did you work that one out?  :huh:

If the GTi is released 6 months after new variant release then you would have to wait until the new variant had been released for 6months until you could get a new GTi.

Eg mk6 released 10/08 mk6 GTi released 5/09, mk7 released 10/12 mk7 GTi released 5/13

All times are approx but you get my jist  :smiley:

I'm purely talking about the gti in reply to it being pointless owning a new GTi

you've missed my point entirely... timeframes between model releases are becoming shorter... and with the release of the GTi variant being later than the model new model release, the amount of time the new owner has of owning the 'latest model' is being reduced.

it doesn't matter about the timeframe between GTi releases, as people will only concentrate on the release of the new model, whether or not there is a GTi in that release... so if you have a GTi it will still become 'the old' model at that point.

Point taken !the moral of this story is if you want a GTi get in early,I purchased mine in June 2009 .
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Guy on 03 September 2012, 21:04
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/-XxChMQk1Kc0/UDbTn6wDITI/AAAAAAAItTA/30hZMniStbY/s1600/2013-Volkswagen-Golf-7-12%25255B1%25255D.jpg)

has anyone else noticed that the lifespan of each variant is getting smaller and smaller... the difference in years between model releases goes something along the lines of 9, 8, 6, 6, 5, 4.. hardly seems worth it... especially after you have to wait so long for one with the special lights and checked seating combo that you ordered... and the GTi came out even later didn't it?

makes the point of owning a new GTi seem even more pointless  :smiley:

If the gti comes out later  with each variant then the time between the release of the GTi will surely stay the same  :undecided:

how did you work that one out?  :huh:

If the GTi is released 6 months after new variant release then you would have to wait until the new variant had been released for 6months until you could get a new GTi.

Eg mk6 released 10/08 mk6 GTi released 5/09, mk7 released 10/12 mk7 GTi released 5/13

All times are approx but you get my jist  :smiley:

I'm purely talking about the gti in reply to it being pointless owning a new GTi

you've missed my point entirely... timeframes between model releases are becoming shorter... and with the release of the GTi variant being later than the model new model release, the amount of time the new owner has of owning the 'latest model' is being reduced.

it doesn't matter about the timeframe between GTi releases, as people will only concentrate on the release of the new model, whether or not there is a GTi in that release... so if you have a GTi it will still become 'the old' model at that point.

Point taken !the moral of this story is if you want a GTi get in early,I purchased mine in June 2009 .

that was when i purchased mine! :) it's gone up in value :)
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 03 September 2012, 21:57
The short time from Mk5/6 to Mk7 is down to cost. Hence new QNX platform development. It is well publicised that the Mk5/6 chassis platform is very expensive to make and has a long lead time.

The quick Mk7 introduction is simply down to profitability and lead time.

Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Jay on 03 September 2012, 22:52
Technology is also moving at a much faster pace too, so they need to "keep up with the Jones" as it were. Might as well reduce production costs and update the look of the car at the same time as being able to shove more tech in.

Personally I think it looks a lot like a Polo / Rocco mix.
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Mew on 03 September 2012, 23:15
All those detection and assistant features, and especially "Speed Limiter", do not bode well.

Assuming the speed limiter is the same sort of system as that found in a Nissan then its a useful bit of kit, especially when driving in an unfamiliar area.
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Mitching on 04 September 2012, 09:00
Technology is also moving at a much faster pace too, so they need to "keep up with the Jones" as it were.
Agreed, plus there's a lot more competition from other car manufacturers, whereas back in the day VW were the first to produce a proper hot hatch and were miles ahead.
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: jonnyb on 04 September 2012, 13:36
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/-XxChMQk1Kc0/UDbTn6wDITI/AAAAAAAItTA/30hZMniStbY/s1600/2013-Volkswagen-Golf-7-12%25255B1%25255D.jpg)

has anyone else noticed that the lifespan of each variant is getting smaller and smaller... the difference in years between model releases goes something along the lines of 9, 8, 6, 6, 5, 4.. hardly seems worth it... especially after you have to wait so long for one with the special lights and checked seating combo that you ordered... and the GTi came out even later didn't it?

makes the point of owning a new GTi seem even more pointless  :smiley:

I think this could come down to the fact cars can be designed, tested and manufactured much quicker than they ever could previously.  I read somewhere that Toyota have design to forecourt down to around 1-2years.  That's pretty impressive stuff considering the complexity of cars and the rigorousness of H&S these days.
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: R32UK on 04 September 2012, 14:46
All those detection and assistant features, and especially "Speed Limiter", do not bode well.

Assuming the speed limiter is the same sort of system as that found in a Nissan then its a useful bit of kit, especially when driving in an unfamiliar area.

There is a speed limiter thingy on the mk5  :huh:
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: SoundillusioN on 04 September 2012, 15:13
I take most news like this with a pinch of salt... As said, I will wait for the official release... I am eager to see if it will live up to the job of being my new daily driver for next year as I will be giving up the Mazda in April.  Can't believe I've had it for three and a half years already!

I had a mk5 and enjoyed it very much but I was put off the mk6 as it didn't come across as good value to me when the time came to change cars.  I ended up being a traitor and chose a Mazda 6 over the Golf as the £20k Mazda gave me everything you want from a car and it lived up to it's expectation, the golf came with nothing.  I hope the 7 is better equipped as standard, fairly priced and not look as dull as the current Passat. 
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: david25 on 04 September 2012, 20:08
Here you go, the premiere is 9PM tonight

(http://auto.blog.rs/gallery/108/volkswagen%20golf%2080.jpg)

(http://auto.blog.rs/gallery/108/volkswagen%20golf%208.jpg)

(http://auto.blog.rs/gallery/108/volkswagen%20golf%208011.jpg)

(http://auto.blog.rs/gallery/108/volkswagen%20golf%2080111.jpg)


Source

http://auto.blog.rs/blog/auto/noviteti/2012/09/04/volkswagen-golf-vii-prve-zvanicne-slike
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: david25 on 04 September 2012, 20:14
Just for you people that like 18" wheels...

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kjwxT1slXSg/UEYkz8ZO9PI/AAAAAAAACK4/IPUhee9ENe0/s1600/23.jpg)
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: david25 on 05 September 2012, 07:47
Real world pics;

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/--AL0qelcWbM/UEae7DBPLPI/AAAAAAAI3a4/Ary_k8yHDcY/s1600/VW-Golf-MK7-12%25255B2%25255D.jpg)

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/-eiigtD0zK0w/UEafPuvT5JI/AAAAAAAI3co/zbW7E98HR28/s1600/VW-Golf-MK7-19%25255B2%25255D.jpg)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/-Hx3zqlcJRRU/UEaisoTe0SI/AAAAAAAI3iQ/rTc_L0QsdMk/s1600/VW-Golf-MK7-29%25255B2%25255D.jpg)
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Guy on 05 September 2012, 10:35
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/3245395054_60a418ebe5.jpg)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/--AL0qelcWbM/UEae7DBPLPI/AAAAAAAI3a4/Ary_k8yHDcY/s1600/VW-Golf-MK7-12%25255B2%25255D.jpg)

i really hate it when car designers do such a radical overhaul!!  :angry:
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 September 2012, 10:49
At first glance I'm not impressed to be honest.. What's going on with that nose, looks way too pointy.

So the platform has changed but overall the car hasn't.  The transition from mk5-7 seems more about the interior and even then it looks like the 7 has just carried forward the 6's interior (which to be fair was expected).  IMO in some cases the mk6 was a bit of a waste of time.

I need to find full on rear pic now.
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 05 September 2012, 10:54
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/60056/new-vw-golf-mk7-specs-pictures-and-details

Thats a very handsome car. 

Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 05 September 2012, 11:17
Interior video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuqTZ4j4JDA

stop start button in front of handbrake.

Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Jay on 05 September 2012, 14:28
A lot of extras, hopefully they're standard and not optional.
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: simonpolly on 05 September 2012, 17:04
Very bland imo :smiley:
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Rich2086 on 06 September 2012, 22:21
looks alright in this photo http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/new-2013-vw-golf-mk7-revealed/263797

but not so keen on it in the other photos released
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: SoundillusioN on 07 September 2012, 11:03
A lot of extras, hopefully they're standard and not optional.

Well apparently certs are that all models will have an infortainment system with a minimum of a 5" touch screen that goes up to 8" for higher end models with NAV.  Also it seems that all models will have an electronic handbrake as standard.  Not sure i'll be happy with that when it comes to handbraking in the snow.  :grin:
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 07 September 2012, 14:49
its got some nice details on it, but not really anything to get excited about. (except mk5 prices going down  :grin: )
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 07 September 2012, 14:54
I don't like it at all, lost all sense of character that the Mk1 and 2 had.. even the 3,4 and 5 have some!
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: AcidicDavey on 10 September 2012, 20:17
Mk3 and mk4 - similar looks. Are you serious?!

More similar than MK2 + 3 or MK4 +5. The overall look of the body is rather similar. Then the convertible model...
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Diamond Hell on 18 September 2012, 08:55
Look - in this image you can actually see how the arse of the Golf has become lardier through the generations.  :grin:

(http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/imagecache/article_image_480/16.jpg)
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: p3asa on 19 September 2012, 13:10
Look - in this image you can actually see how the arse of the Golf has become lardier through the generations.  :grin:


Just like us humans then  :laugh:
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: dan_apps on 23 September 2012, 09:22
A lot of new technological advances but at a big cost to the driving experience it seems.
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: MS1COYS on 27 September 2012, 22:16
http://paultan.org/2012/09/27/volkswagen-golf-gti-concept-unveiled-in-paris/

 :evil:
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Guy on 28 September 2012, 14:58
bit of an update from the Paris motor show

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/60499/volkswagen-golf-mk7-paris-2012 (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/60499/volkswagen-golf-mk7-paris-2012)
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: Mr GTD on 28 September 2012, 15:50
Look - in this image you can actually see how the arse of the Golf has become lardier through the generations.  :grin:


Just like us humans then  :laugh:

LMAO! :laugh:
Title: Re: MK7 details from official sources
Post by: dTEA on 28 September 2012, 22:00
CBA reading while thread but
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24 (http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24)