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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: stu646 on 28 August 2012, 10:14

Title: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: stu646 on 28 August 2012, 10:14
Going to sell my 1.8t and torn between the 16v, VR6 and the 16v anni.

Already owned a 16v gti and enjoyed it, so going for the 16 anni seems the best bet to me. Thoughts?
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni ?
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 28 August 2012, 12:49
It all depends on how much you like the Anni interior really and how much money you're willing to pay for one over the standard 16v really. Decent 16v Annis are pretty hard to come by now days.
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: tweed on 28 August 2012, 15:00
Red 16v gti  :cool:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: stu646 on 28 August 2012, 15:58
There is a good example of a 16v anni on this forum for sale

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=239172.0

A long way from me, but looks in very good nick
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: AcidicDavey on 28 August 2012, 15:59
Red 16v gti  :cool:

Try finding one...

Failing that, a VR6 Corrado!
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni ?
Post by: VW BUSH on 28 August 2012, 18:03
It all depends on how much you like the Anni interior really and how much money you're willing to pay for one over the standard 16v really. Decent Mk3's are pretty hard to come by now days.

Modified that for you as ive seen some utter sh!te that passes for mint, buy on shell alone :smiley:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 28 August 2012, 18:29
Only diff is the mods inside, if u like the seats and belts.  Personally I think the seats are aweful along

with the belts.  Go 16v with black leather interior.  The gear knob is over rated too.  I got one but ended

up selling it along with Anni  handbreak as prefered my momo. :smiley:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: stu646 on 28 August 2012, 18:35
Seems 16v it is then,no love for VR6?
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: madmanmart on 28 August 2012, 19:06
Red 16v gti  :cool:

Oh yeh baby  :cool:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: Screech16v on 28 August 2012, 19:11
16v you know it makes (financial) sense. :wink:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: tweed on 28 August 2012, 19:51
Well I've had a 16v
But I have a vr6 and 8v
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: benvictors on 28 August 2012, 23:14
VR6 all day mate, you can pick up a high line for less than a grand at the moment and with a few, not too expensive mods, you can nearly see the 200bhp mark, dicks all over the valver  :wink:
Yes they are slightly more expensive to run than the 16v but not so much that it bothers me.
VR for the win  :grin: :cool: :laugh:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: stu646 on 28 August 2012, 23:23
Well once I sell my 1.8t, I should have around £1500/1600 to spend.

Need to start looking around. Still torn between the anni and vr6 now
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: benvictors on 28 August 2012, 23:34
Well once I sell my 1.8t, I should have around £1500/1600 to spend.

Need to start looking around. Still torn between the anni and vr6 now

If you are planning on keeping it standard (maybe just a cheeky drop on the suspension) then the Annie could be a good investment, if however, you are wanting to mod the car I wouldn't bother with an Annie, I think they should be left as original as possible.
I am obviously biased since I own a VR, but you could pick up quite a tasty one for that sort of money, I can't help thinking you would be slightly disappointed with the Valver performance after your 1.8T
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 28 August 2012, 23:38
Well once I sell my 1.8t, I should have around £1500/1600 to spend.

Need to start looking around. Still torn between the anni and vr6 now

If you are planning on keeping it standard (maybe just a cheeky drop on the suspension) then the Annie could be a good investment, if however, you are wanting to mod the car I wouldn't bother with an Annie, I think they should be left as original as possible.
I am obviously biased since I own a VR, but you could pick up quite a tasty one for that sort of money, I can't help thinking you would be slightly disappointed with the Valver performance after your 1.8T
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I did think this myself. Is your mk4 standard?
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 28 August 2012, 23:57
VR6 all day mate, you can pick up a high line for less than a grand at the moment and with a few, not too expensive mods, you can nearly see the 200bhp mark, dicks all over the valver  :wink:
Yes they are slightly more expensive to run than the 16v but not so much that it bothers me.
VR for the win  :grin: :cool: :laugh:

This.
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: stu646 on 28 August 2012, 23:59
Completely standard yes, brought it un-modded and kept it that way. Does pull very well and I got to 120mph on the motorway last month and it would of kept going, so still got good top speed.

What is the VR6 like then for power? Always liked the sound of them
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: Advocate on 29 August 2012, 00:57
Dude stick with the 16v. I own one and have just had the head port and gas flowed, which is a cheap mod and the only real mod required for this car. Will be fitted in the next week or so. Its a true sports car hence why it is called a gti. The vr6 are nice, but don't offer much bhp for such a big engine, esp when compared to the 16v. Mine will be pushing 180-185 bhp with the above work and a chipped ecu and this is what a big lump 2.8 vr6 pushes. I have now owned mine for 4 yrs and the engine has done 190,000 and still is bullet proof. I have owned a mk4 gti turbo and feel it was sh!te in comparsion.  :cool:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: Advocate on 29 August 2012, 01:17
Sorry mine will be pushing 180bhp max. To get more than 180bhp would require more work such as uprated cams and ITB's with an adjustable ecu, which I won't do due to cost and the fact it still would struggle to get close to 200bhp.
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: Ess_Three on 29 August 2012, 09:34
Dude stick with the 16v. I own one and have just had the head port and gas flowed, which is a cheap mod and the only real mod required for this car. Will be fitted in the next week or so. Its a true sports car hence why it is called a gti. The vr6 are nice, but don't offer much bhp for such a big engine, esp when compared to the 16v. Mine will be pushing 180-185 bhp with the above work and a chipped ecu and this is what a big lump 2.8 vr6 pushes.

Prepare to be disappointed.
A ported head on an ABF will not give you 30 BHP.

Mk3 a true sports car? Um..OK.
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: mrsaunders on 29 August 2012, 10:02
Well once I sell my 1.8t, I should have around £1500/1600 to spend.

Need to start looking around. Still torn between the anni and vr6 now

If you are planning on keeping it standard (maybe just a cheeky drop on the suspension) then the Annie could be a good investment, if however, you are wanting to mod the car I wouldn't bother with an Annie, I think they should be left as original as possible.
I am obviously biased since I own a VR, but you could pick up quite a tasty one for that sort of money, I can't help thinking you would be slightly disappointed with the Valver performance after your 1.8T

i doubt you'd be dissappointed, both standard then a mk3 16v is just a fraction quicker then a 1.8t so i dont see how you could be?
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 29 August 2012, 12:00
I ane owned both vr6 and 16v. The 16v is way better esp if u get head port etc done. The vr6 is not that much quicker period.
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 29 August 2012, 12:48
Standard versus standard, the vr is still considerably quicker than the 16v.
Change the upper inlet manifold and throttle body for a 2.9, remap it, and you'll have the same power as the corrado...
The 16v is much more expensive to tune, period..
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: Ess_Three on 29 August 2012, 12:53
Standard versus standard, the vr is still considerably quicker than the 16v.
Change the upper inlet manifold and throttle body for a 2.9, remap it, and you'll have the same power as the corrado...
The 16v is much more expensive to tune, period..

True.
But the 16v had lower gearing to make better use of the lower torque but higher revs...and will ALWAYS understeer less than a VR6.

You pays your money and makes your choice!
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 29 August 2012, 12:54
Standard vs standaird the vr is not a lot quicker period. I hav owned 3 vrs all mint standard. Not a lot of diff except on motorway
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 29 August 2012, 13:01
Standard vs standaird the vr is not a lot quicker period. I hav owned 3 vrs all mint standard. Not a lot of diff except on motorway

That's like saying there isn't alot of difference between the 8 and 16v  :smug:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 29 August 2012, 13:03
Standard versus standard, the vr is still considerably quicker than the 16v.
Change the upper inlet manifold and throttle body for a 2.9, remap it, and you'll have the same power as the corrado...
The 16v is much more expensive to tune, period..

True.
But the 16v had lower gearing to make better use of the lower torque but higher revs...and will ALWAYS understeer less than a VR6.

You pays your money and makes your choice!

True the 16v will always handle better when really pushed..
But the VR6 IS quicker than the 16v, there is no doubt about that...
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: Foreveryoungaus16v on 29 August 2012, 13:07
This conversation can go on all day :grigbn:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 29 August 2012, 13:09
Keep fueling, keep fueling... :evil:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 29 August 2012, 13:11
This conversation can go on all day :grigbn:

Yes it could.
I like both engines  :smiley:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 29 August 2012, 13:13
TDI.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: stu646 on 29 August 2012, 13:21
Well after reading through the pages...and thanks for everyone's input, I am now no clearer to which I want  :grin:
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: tweed on 29 August 2012, 18:47
Go on YouTube and type in vr6 sound or
Vr6 golf vs vr6 corrado sound
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: Gavv8 on 29 August 2012, 19:11
Better still type in VR6 twin turbo but make sure your alone and have kleenex.....
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 29 August 2012, 22:21
The problem with the VR6 was it was detuned out of the box.
Just one example, it should of come with a variable inlet manifold as standard, like the real V6 in the Audi and Passat...
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: leigh_harty on 31 August 2012, 19:54
The problem with the VR6 was it was detuned out of the box.
Just one example, it should of come with a variable inlet manifold as standard, like the real V6 in the Audi and Passat...

Same reason the bmw's etc where detuned? German tax reasons?
Title: Re: 16v , VR6 or 16v anni?
Post by: allsmiles on 01 September 2012, 03:50
vr6 all the way! the noise alone makes it worth it!

i am biased since i own a highline myself, and have spent a small fortune these few weeks on getting panels painted but all will be worth it  :grin: