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Title: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: razla on 20 August 2012, 22:00
Hi all, it's been a while since I posted on these forums, in fact it's been a while since I've been a GTI owner :undecided: but a local advert has caught my eye :laugh:

Here's the AD http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/vw-golf-mk1-gti-1983/109316161

Having never owned a Mk1, I just wondered what to look out for?

Also, does this seem like a fair price?

Thanks in advance, Andy.
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: SoundillusioN on 20 August 2012, 23:01
Welcome back... Looks pretty good that does.. Never modded too which is a bonus.   Price is fair IMO if it's not rotten.


Have a look http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=182376.0 for buying guide... Any questions, ask away.  :wink:
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: vw_golf_nutter on 21 August 2012, 16:04
hi, yeah looks like  decent enough example. Main things is check in the spare wheel well for rust and rear seatbelt anchor points.
Fuel filler necks seem to rust over time, I have had a few with holes in so take the cap off and have a look.
Mechanically they are quite simple but personally i like to have the brakes upgraded because they are usually pretty spongy and not up to the job but if its being used daily should be perfectly adequate
Mars red paint fades to pink fairly bad so expect to have to paint it.

I would try and haggle a bit, ive seen a couple at this price with a little less mileage, if you dont ask you dont get!

Good luck, keep us updated!
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: Guy on 21 August 2012, 18:31
looks okish apart from the hole in the wing and the carpet in the boot having mould on the underside, its not very 'clean' generally though.. interior looks filthy  :undecided:

thoroughly check the boot for signs of water ingress, especially round the seals... lift the rubber if you need to and check for any remaining water or moisture

also check the drainage holes in the scuttle panel... if these have become blocked over time then the panel will have overflowed into the passenger compartment.. especially check the passenger footwell, if this is wet then you might have possible electrical problems in future as the leak could have been going over the fusebox.

i think there are much better examples out there but it depends on your budget... if you're after a minter then this isn't it

Mars red paint fades to pink fairly bad so expect to have to paint it.

absolute rubbish... you can easily polish pink back to red on old VW's
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: razla on 21 August 2012, 20:31
Thanks for all your comments, much appreciated. I'm going to view the car tomorrow night after work, if she's not too bad, I'll buy her. :wink:

@ Guy, Never even noticed the mould on the carpet, cheers for pointing that out! and for the heads up on the passenger foot well.  Not looking for a minter, looking for more of a project :cool:

@ Vw golf nutter, thanks for the info, the car will most definitely be getting a full respray.

@ SoundillusioN, cheers for the welcome back mate and thanks for pointing me in the direction of the buying guide, very usefull. I'll have plenty more questions, no worries there! :tongue:

Cheers, Andy.
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: Guy on 21 August 2012, 21:04
Thanks for all your comments, much appreciated. I'm going to view the car tomorrow night after work, if she's not too bad, I'll buy her. :wink:

@ Guy, Never even noticed the mould on the carpet, cheers for pointing that out! and for the heads up on the passenger foot well.  Not looking for a minter, looking for more of a project :cool:

@ Vw golf nutter, thanks for the info, the car will most definitely be getting a full respray.

@ SoundillusioN, cheers for the welcome back mate and thanks for pointing me in the direction of the buying guide, very usefull. I'll have plenty more questions, no worries there! :tongue:

Cheers, Andy.

no probs

however... i have just looked at the pics again... sill rot along the drivers door and possibly along the passenger. i'd say that was a rotter.

ps. if the paint problem was just red paint fading then it wouldn't need a respray - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=122448.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=122448.0)  :wink:
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: Guy on 21 August 2012, 21:22
and in fact... looking at that rear footwell again the tyre is actually wet and so I believe is the base of the boot...  :sad:
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: razla on 21 August 2012, 22:23
and in fact... looking at that rear footwell again the tyre is actually wet and so I believe is the base of the boot...  :sad:

Not looking very good is it?!

I'll have a proper look tomorrow, thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 August 2012, 22:25
and in fact... looking at that rear footwell again the tyre is actually wet and so I believe is the base of the boot...  :sad:

Would the seller be that daft?... Well, I bet it does leak, most of this age do if they're on original seals...  However, don't let that put you off.. Just be sure that if anything is damp, it hasn't caused any harm yet.

You could do yourself a favour, contact the seller for more pics.  First would be one with the spare removed.

I'd also want to see the sills, jacking points and around the windscreen, especially the bottom corners.
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: razla on 21 August 2012, 22:40
and in fact... looking at that rear footwell again the tyre is actually wet and so I believe is the base of the boot...  :sad:

Would the seller be that daft?... Well, I bet it does leak, most of this age do if they're on original seals...  However, don't let that put you off.. Just be sure that if anything is damp, it hasn't caused any harm yet.

You could do yourself a favour, contact the seller for more pics.  First would be one with the spare removed.

I'd also want to see the sills, jacking points and around the windscreen, especially the bottom corners.

Cheers for that mate, I'm going straight after work for a good look. I'm expecting to have to spend a bit(maybe quite a bit) on her. It doesn't look beyond restoration to me and it would be nice to save another Mk1 from the scrappy! :cool:
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 August 2012, 23:06
and in fact... looking at that rear footwell again the tyre is actually wet and so I believe is the base of the boot...  :sad:

Would the seller be that daft?... Well, I bet it does leak, most of this age do if they're on original seals...  However, don't let that put you off.. Just be sure that if anything is damp, it hasn't caused any harm yet.

You could do yourself a favour, contact the seller for more pics.  First would be one with the spare removed.

I'd also want to see the sills, jacking points and around the windscreen, especially the bottom corners.

Cheers for that mate, I'm going straight after work for a good look. I'm expecting to have to spend a bit(maybe quite a bit) on her. It doesn't look beyond restoration to me and it would be nice to save another Mk1 from the scrappy! :cool:

Certainly doesn't look like a massive resto project, looks pretty straight on the outside...

Have a feel behind the plastic arch trims while you are checking the underneath, make sure the arches aren't rotten, a bit of rust is OK here but not rot, especially if it's the rear.
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: Guy on 21 August 2012, 23:11
if you do like it at least you can use the bad points as bargaining tools  :wink:
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: razla on 22 August 2012, 05:31
if you do like it at least you can use the bad points as bargaining tools  :wink:

My thoughts exactly :smug:

Cheers lads.
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: vw_golf_nutter on 22 August 2012, 13:47
must just be mine that turn pink then!  :grin:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/vw_golf_nutter/cars/nearside164.jpg)

yes you can polish them but in my experience its better to put paint on that take paint off as there are not that many layers left on a 30yr old car. we all have our own ways though.
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: SoundillusioN on 22 August 2012, 14:33
You still got it?
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: Guy on 22 August 2012, 15:28
must just be mine that turn pink then!  :grin:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/vw_golf_nutter/cars/nearside164.jpg)

yes you can polish them but in my experience its better to put paint on that take paint off as there are not that many layers left on a 30yr old car. we all have our own ways though.

 :huh:

we're talking about an oxidised layer and taking microns of paint off

much better to do that and keep the car original if possible
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: SoundillusioN on 22 August 2012, 18:08
And if you've still got it, the man above is who you call, knows his stuff.  :cool:
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: razla on 22 August 2012, 20:09
And if you've still got it, the man above is who you call, knows his stuff.  :cool:

Is he any good at polishing rust out? :grin:

I got the car, ignoring most of the advice I got from you guys lol! I just couldn't resist, a couple(well, a few) of things that need doing!

spare wheel well needs sorting(hole at bottom)
drivers door is going at the bottom
sills don't look too bad but he's given me a full set of sills as he was going to get them done himself.
it needs 2 wings.
both foot wells are wet :undecided:
It has the bulkhead clutch cable problem :rolleyes:

I'm sure there's more but those were the things I noticed. Probably opened a big can of worms here lol but I like a challenge.

The car drives great, pulls through the gears well. I did notice that when you pull up to a junction/ lights that the oil light flickers and goes out when you rev it? any ideas?

I'll post some pics tomorrow, when I get a chance



Apart from the

Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: Guy on 22 August 2012, 20:43
And if you've still got it, the man above is who you call, knows his stuff.  :cool:

Is he any good at polishing rust out? :grin:


erm no... i've polished a few turds in my time but rust has me beaten!  :laugh:

sounds like you got yourself a project there... did you get a discount off the asking price?
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: razla on 22 August 2012, 20:57
And if you've still got it, the man above is who you call, knows his stuff.  :cool:

Is he any good at polishing rust out? :grin:


erm no... i've polished a few turds in my time but rust has me beaten!  :laugh:

sounds like you got yourself a project there... did you get a discount off the asking price?

Definitely a project mate. He wasn't budging on the price much, said he didn't mind if it sold or not. I managed to knock £50 off. TBH I'm not too fussed, I think it will be a drop in the ocean to what I'll be spending in the long run.
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: vw_golf_nutter on 23 August 2012, 12:53
no i dont still have it  :cry: the car was given to me by an ex and obviously when we split up the car stayed with him coz it would have been rude to try and take it. i had stripped it and put new doors in it and it was awaiting painting so couldnt of driven it off. shame coz it was a nice car. it had a polo GT engine in it with twin carbs  :grin:

glad you have rescued another mk1 but seems a lot of work to do for the money, for example there is a mars red one near to me for £1500 thats very good condition body wise but has 180k. i personally dont mind replacing panels and painting, i just hate having to get bits welded.
the wet floor will more than likely be the drainage holes that are under the bonnet in the 2 corners. i had a problem with them being blocked before and water used to pour in behind the fuse box  :shocked:
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: Guy on 23 August 2012, 17:04
the wet floor will more than likely be the drainage holes that are under the bonnet in the 2 corners. i had a problem with them being blocked before and water used to pour in behind the fuse box  :shocked:

gosh, is there an echo in here?  :huh:
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: razla on 23 August 2012, 21:04
no i dont still have it  :cry: the car was given to me by an ex and obviously when we split up the car stayed with him coz it would have been rude to try and take it. i had stripped it and put new doors in it and it was awaiting painting so couldnt of driven it off. shame coz it was a nice car. it had a polo GT engine in it with twin carbs  :grin:

glad you have rescued another mk1 but seems a lot of work to do for the money, for example there is a mars red one near to me for £1500 thats very good condition body wise but has 180k. i personally dont mind replacing panels and painting, i just hate having to get bits welded.
the wet floor will more than likely be the drainage holes that are under the bonnet in the 2 corners. i had a problem with them being blocked before and water used to pour in behind the fuse box  :shocked:

Yeah the drainage holes are well blocked, you got any tips on unblocking them before I start? I may be able to do some of the welding myself as I'm a steel fabricator by trade, never worked on a car before though welding-wise.

If that Mk1 near you is still for sale in a few months time, I may be interested in buying it. High mileage doesn't put me off tbh.

Cheers, Andy. :cool:
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: SoundillusioN on 24 August 2012, 10:24
no i dont still have it  :cry: the car was given to me by an ex and obviously when we split up the car stayed with him coz it would have been rude to try and take it. i had stripped it and put new doors in it and it was awaiting painting so couldnt of driven it off. shame coz it was a nice car. it had a polo GT engine in it with twin carbs  :grin:

glad you have rescued another mk1 but seems a lot of work to do for the money, for example there is a mars red one near to me for £1500 thats very good condition body wise but has 180k. i personally dont mind replacing panels and painting, i just hate having to get bits welded.
the wet floor will more than likely be the drainage holes that are under the bonnet in the 2 corners. i had a problem with them being blocked before and water used to pour in behind the fuse box  :shocked:

Yeah the drainage holes are well blocked, you got any tips on unblocking them before I start? I may be able to do some of the welding myself as I'm a steel fabricator by trade, never worked on a car before though welding-wise.

If that Mk1 near you is still for sale in a few months time, I may be interested in buying it. High mileage doesn't put me off tbh.

Cheers, Andy. :cool:

Welcome to MK1 ownership...  :cool:  nice to know you're going to sort this one out.  You can't have 2 you greedy get!  :grin:

The drainage hole rubbers pull out so you can clean them out..

If you can fabricate then this project should be a piece of cake for you.
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: razla on 24 August 2012, 18:19
Thanks for the welcome to Mk1 ownership. I've done a few miles now in the car and for all it's niggles, it puts a big smile on my face, I love it! :wink:
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: SoundillusioN on 24 August 2012, 23:12
Thanks for the welcome to Mk1 ownership. I've done a few miles now in the car and for all it's niggles, it puts a big smile on my face, I love it! :wink:

Funnily enough I know exactly what you mean.  :cool:
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: Guy on 24 August 2012, 23:48
Thanks for the welcome to Mk1 ownership. I've done a few miles now in the car and for all it's niggles, it puts a big smile on my face, I love it! :wink:

Funnily enough I know exactly what you mean.  :cool:

me too!!  :cool:
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: chalky white on 29 August 2012, 18:51
And if you've still got it, the man above is who you call, knows his stuff.  :cool:

Is he any good at polishing rust out? :grin:


erm no... i've polished a few turds in my time but rust has me beaten!  :laugh:


LOL, you can't polish a Turd Guy, but you can spinkle it with glitter, Sorry that's a favourite of mine.

sounds like you got yourself a project there... did you get a discount off the asking price?
Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: chalky white on 29 August 2012, 18:57
Also check the door drainage holes are unblocked and you have the plastic membranes in place too.
look for old or rotted grommets, bungs etc in the engine bay, sometimes folks drill holes for stuff like alarms etc, these break and get removed leaving holes, sounds daft but worth looking for.
Seals around the rear lights is another common issue too.
Welcome to the GTI experience..

Title: Re: Advice on MK1 gti please
Post by: razla on 29 August 2012, 19:32
Also check the door drainage holes are unblocked and you have the plastic membranes in place too.
look for old or rotted grommets, bungs etc in the engine bay, sometimes folks drill holes for stuff like alarms etc, these break and get removed leaving holes, sounds daft but worth looking for.
Seals around the rear lights is another common issue too.
Welcome to the GTI experience..

Cheers for the heads up mate, I'll check them when I next take a look.

Andy.