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Title: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 16:01
Alright lads

Post in the or sale thread but am now really confused as its been pointed out to me

I assumed this was a k03s when I took it Off my car but it has the wrong amount blades on the turbine wheel.
It also hasn't got a tag on
 
This is the info I got off the cold side and hot side casings

Cold side - 5304 101 5160

Hot side -
039060   1262
Nisicr 3532
039060
3532



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Any ideas?

Cheers lads
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: littco on 12 August 2012, 16:54
Can you measure the inlet bore? Looks like a k04 compressor.maybe a hybrid of some kind. Not a KKK part though...
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 16:56
Can you measure the inlet bore? Looks like a k04 compressor.maybe a hybrid of some kind. Not a KKK part though...

I will try get some measurements  :smiley:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: dan2252 on 12 August 2012, 17:19
thats werid isnt it? you buy the car standard?
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 17:26
Ok just had the vernier out  :smiley:
 So up to now info is -

Cold side -
 5304 101 5160

Hot side -
039060   1262
Nisicr 3532
039060
3532

Measurements -

Inlet I.d - 38.8mm/1.528"
Edge of inlet i.d - 39.9mm/1.571"

Inlet O.d 44.9-45 mm / 1.769"

Cold side outlet I.d - 39.9mm/1.571"

11 blades on turbine
10 blade on compresser wheel

(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/golfyste/65b9a8b7.jpg)
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/golfyste/780333cf.jpg)
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Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 17:28
thats werid isnt it? you buy the car standard?

Not completely but only a few small mods like exhaust and air filter and a map
But it
Never really run great (about 170bhp)
So may have been mapped before with more mods

Wish I had bought standard tbh
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 17:35
James2 found this....

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/351996/2390179.aspx

So are we thinkin it's a k03 hybrid  :huh:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: dan2252 on 12 August 2012, 17:47
i know how you feel pal! would never buy a pre modded car again, why did you change the turbo?  for more power or was it causing it to run poor?
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: james2 on 12 August 2012, 17:49
Looks like it. If my AGU turbo needs a refurb im sending it to them. Might come back with 5 blades instead of 12.  :smiley:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: dan2252 on 12 August 2012, 18:04
would less blades be better ? :)
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 18:11
i know how you feel pal! would never buy a pre modded car again, why did you change the turbo?  for more power or was it causing it to run poor?

I would buy something modded but only if done properly not just a filter and exhaust like mine was. But now I know more I could check if it had been done properly

Was going for more power but turns out I may not have had to change it  :undecided:
would less blades be better ? :)

I think the blades are bigger and push more air through but are harder to spin so they are more aggressive

Anyone got any more specific guesses? As to what each part may be?

Cheers
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: ninog60 on 12 August 2012, 20:30
It could be a hybrid ko3s but i dont recognise it from the castings, only by the number of blades, the ko4 had 10 I think.
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 20:48
It could be a hybrid ko3s but i dont recognise it from the castings, only by the number of blades, the ko4 had 10 I think.

So definatly not a k03s
Wonder what sort of power it would make and how much it's worth  :grin:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: littco on 12 August 2012, 21:56
Bigger blades , pump more air but need a bigger turbine to drive it. To find out exactly what the turbo is you'll need to know what the turbine size. I'd hazard a guess and say the compressor inducer is 42mm same as the k04.

Price is really hard to say, simply without proof of where it was bought, it could be a £250 cheap chinese turbo or a £600 hybrid and thus I don't think you realistically could sell it as its a huge gamble.. It may look good but without knowing its background you can say whether it is or not.
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: Wazzzer on 12 August 2012, 21:58
I'll give ya £20  :laugh:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 22:03
Bigger blades , pump more air but need a bigger turbine to drive it. To find out exactly what the turbo is you'll need to know what the turbine size. I'd hazard a guess and say the compressor inducer is 42mm same as the k04.

Price is really hard to say, simply without proof of where it was bought, it could be a £250 cheap chinese turbo or a £600 hybrid and thus I don't think you realistically could sell it as its a huge gamble.. It may look good but without knowing its background you can say whether it is or not.


Hmmm forgot about that  :undecided:

I'll give ya £20  :laugh:

 :laugh:
Naaa I'm ok it seems good and it's in good condition in sure I could get a half decent price for it or keep it for when I plan to do a mk2 1.8t  :evil:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: littco on 12 August 2012, 22:08
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but just seen, which I missed before, the TS stamped into the compressor housing.  This is a Toyosports turbo.. They're less than £300 new...
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: Wazzzer on 12 August 2012, 22:10
In light of the new info, my offer stands  :wink:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 22:24
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but just seen, which I missed before, the TS stamped into the compressor housing.  This is a Toyosports turbo.. They're less than £300 new...


In light of the new info, my offer stands  :wink:

Not that bad of news as really the turbo is in mint condition as there is no play in the shaft and the housing don't look to old so I would £200 would still be fair  :smiley:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: james2 on 12 August 2012, 22:28
Title: Re: Turbo's not k03s or 4 hmmm
Post by: RTechUK on October 25, 2011, 18:52
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411bhp 12.3s from a £150 setup..ftw


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Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 22:30
Title: Re: Turbo's not k03s or 4 hmmm
Post by: RTechUK on October 25, 2011, 18:52
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411bhp 12.3s from a £150 setup..ftw


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 :lipsrsealed:

This just confused me  :laugh:

Thanks for all info anyways guys at least I can try sell it with the proper knowledge  :cool:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: james2 on 12 August 2012, 22:34
 :evil: looks like you need r-tech to map them .  :evil:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 22:35
Surely that turbo wouldn't flow anywhere near enough to get them sort of figures  :huh:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: littco on 12 August 2012, 22:37
411bhp.... It's not that big a turbo...haha

Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: littco on 12 August 2012, 22:41
Even if it was what I think was, then 270bhp is tops...

I reckon what happened was, the previous owner had the original turbo fail on him, he bought a unit off eBay or a online shop and this was available as an upgrade unit for the same price as a stock unit , so why not fit the bigger turbo... Some of these cheaper turbos are pretty good but you just have to remember you can gt them brand new for £300 ....
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: james2 on 12 August 2012, 22:42
 :grin: i saw they need a different map, not may people run them .Maybe im looking at the wrong thread on here.  :laugh: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?action=printpage;topic=210467.0


HAD A FEW BEERS.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 22:45
Even if it was what I think was, then 270bhp is tops...

I reckon what happened was, the previous owner had the original turbo fail on him, he bought a unit off eBay or a online shop and this was available as an upgrade unit for the same price as a stock unit , so why not fit the bigger turbo... Some of these cheaper turbos are pretty good but you just have to remember you can gt them brand new for £300 ....


Yeah I'm guessin so....
Hmmm could make a proper hybrid out of it  :evil: but I cba  :grin:
Will just sell put it up for £200 ono as a toyosport hybrid  :smiley:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: ninog60 on 12 August 2012, 22:46
Don disregard the ebay chinese/toyosports turbos, many people have no idea on how to tune them, I know of a certain someone who has had one running big power for years. Admittedly it was tuned by THE best in the business, its an anagram of T Rech.
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 22:51
:grin: i saw they need a different map, not may people run them .Maybe im looking at the wrong thread on here.  :laugh: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?action=printpage;topic=210467.0


HAD A FEW BEERS.  :rolleyes:

Your thinking of the t3/t4 turbo

Don disregard the ebay chinese/toyosports turbos, many people have no idea on how to tune them, I know of a certain someone who has had one running big power for years. Admittedly it was tuned by THE best in the business, its an anagram of T Rech.

What are you classing big power?  :evil:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: james2 on 12 August 2012, 22:54
One more thing i saw on your turbo was you wont be able to fit a silcon tip,it looks grounded off.One coment from a user of these turbos. One problem I had with fitting was the oem tip did not fit onto the compressor housing,I ended up machining mine out as I needed to be on the road that same day . :undecided: "Bolt on tip only".
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 22:56
......I had both a standard tip and a silicone one on this turbo Over the last year  :huh:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: james2 on 12 August 2012, 23:02
ooh looks like the lips gone or been grinded down on your pic.

(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa479/james2452/83fc6bdc.jpg)
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 23:04
Hmmm I dunno never noticed that  :laugh:
But I did have not TIPs' fitted I one point or another  :smiley:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: james2 on 12 August 2012, 23:05
Anyone got a link where they sell these turbos. I want to read up aboat them. I cant google/search find one for sell.  :undecided:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 23:06
Anyone got a link where they sell these turbos. I want to read up aboat them. I cant google/search find one for sell.  :undecided:

Me neither.....already tried  :laugh:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: james2 on 12 August 2012, 23:13
strange,you would think you could find the spec.All i find is forums talking about them.As a upgrade. At least yours is ready to fit,i would hate to chop it down to fit (tip).  :evil: see what r-tech say about them and mapping them (they did say its the better ko3s) . :smug:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 23:21
strange,you would think you could find the spec.All i find is forums talking about them.As a upgrade. At least yours is ready to fit,i would hate to chop it down to fit (tip).  :evil: see what r-tech say about them and mapping them (they did say its the better ko3s) . :smug:

 :laugh:
Exactly what I was just thinkin  :grin:
They may get in touch and send them a few pics seeing what they think  :cool:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: james2 on 12 August 2012, 23:27
Look forward to hearing what these turbos can do. Ill search again tomorrow after work. Im just stering at the screen waiting for you to find a link. LOVE beers.  :grin:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: cullygti on 12 August 2012, 23:31
Look forward to hearing what these turbos can do. Ill search again tomorrow after work. Im just stering at the screen waiting for you to find a link. LOVE beers.  :grin:

only bit of that i understood was BEER   :grin:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: golfyste on 12 August 2012, 23:55
 :laugh:
Can't find naff all  :cry:
Gonna have to talk to someone more knowledgable  :laugh:
Title: Re: What turbo is this??
Post by: Adam on 13 August 2012, 00:26
http://newbeetle.org/forums/1-8-liter-turbo/14107-killer-ko4-turbo-concepts-6.html#post214233