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Title: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 09 August 2012, 09:34
09 plate 2.0 170TDI Manual Tiguan Escape

or

07 plate 2.5 174TDI Toerag Manual

both around 40-60k miles.

both tow enough for me.

Obviously the Toerag won't do as many MPGs

Which would you go for and why?
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: RandomJord on 09 August 2012, 09:36
Toerag, borrowed my step mums the other weekend, drives so damn nice! Pure lazy comfort for long treks.

I'll be having that car when her new one arrives.

Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 09 August 2012, 09:57
The thing I don't know about the Toerag is the configuration of the 2.5TDI motor.  The output is 174BHP which is identical to the T5 Transporter - it would be nice to think they've used that very durable motor, instead of the TDI V6 which is quite a lazy thing.  I'm sure someone will know, to save me searching for interweb noildges
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: archie837 on 09 August 2012, 10:04
If this is correct it says the toerag is an inline 5 cylinder so the same as some of the audis?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/touareg/first-drives/vw-touareg-2.5-tdi
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 09 August 2012, 10:17
Sounds like the van motor then.  :grin:

Probably wouldn't be quite so disappointing in manual form.

It's the interior that really 'sells' the Toerag - palatial and well equipped.... although the 2007 one seemed to have been ordered without any options, bar a towbar.

Not sure I'm old enough to have a Toerag over a Tiguan, mind.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 09 August 2012, 13:04
Doesn't the Toerag have shockingly bad rear visibility.



Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Rhyso on 09 August 2012, 13:14
The Toerag is shockingly built.  A friend of mine detailed one the other week.  Fair enough it had covered 90K miles but the trim was very badly worn, bits of exterior trim were hanging off etc etc

It felt cheap and nasty too; lots and lots of nasty plastic everywhere, bearing in mind that this was the 5 litre V10 model too!!

Tiguan on the other hand is a nicely put together machine if a little plain looking  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 09 August 2012, 13:25
After a quick Youtube, Tiguan all day long.

The escape is the higher suspension set up version.



Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Wayne on 09 August 2012, 13:46
Tiguan is the better buy and would be my choice.
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 09 August 2012, 14:06
After a quick Youtube, Tiguan all day long.

Links?

The escape is the higher suspension set up version.

Yes, with underbody protection options.  It would probably get used for light green-laning.  :cool:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 09 August 2012, 14:35
After a quick Youtube, Tiguan all day long.

Links?

The escape is the higher suspension set up version.

Yes, with underbody protection options.  It would probably get used for light green-laning.  :cool:

LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-hxUaPwpGk

But seriously:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYgVdEPBJO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWujRYVvjn8

Tiguan. They came up with the name after an internet poll for "what shall we call it".  It's a hash of German for Tiger and Iguana.

I sh!t you not.



Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: logeyboy on 09 August 2012, 15:24
What happened to VW naming cars after Winds...  :angry:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 09 August 2012, 15:36
That Irish test is actually bloody brilliant.  :grin:

Just noticed there's one owned by an utter c*nt in the UK already, which confirms the Tiguan as probably the right vehicle for me.  :grin:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 09 August 2012, 15:42
That Irish test is actually bloody brilliant.  :grin:


He's great isn't he.  :grin:  Have a watch of his other road test. Funny as feck (as well as being very good reviews)

www.thenextgear.com
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Mr GTD on 10 August 2012, 08:44
Steve30 has a tiguan...

Ask for his views...
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Organisys on 10 August 2012, 12:21
Touareg closely related to Porsche Cayenne, and proper 4wd.

Tiguan closely related to a Golf and most are not 4wd. some are Haldex.

Tig has a small boot. Toe rag does not.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 10 August 2012, 14:32
Touareg closely related to Porsche Cayenne, and proper 4wd.

And thus proper expensive to sort if it breaks - £4k for a front axle sort of thing.  :shocked:

Tiguan closely related to a Golf and most are not 4wd. some are Haldex.

Most of them are 4Motion and there seem to be people charging about on sand dunes with them, so I suspect the 4WD is pretty robust - I've heard great reports about the T5 4Motion being used on expeditions

Tig has a small boot. Toe rag does not.

Thankfully I only need to carry small children's stuff and shopping, not dead bodies so the boot size shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Looking at a few things online it looks like the 2.5 Toerag returns about 25MPG.  The 4Mo Tiguans look to be delivering about 40MPG which is much happier on the wallet.

I do very much like the Toerag, because I think it would be just marvellous, but I suspect my girls would dismiss it out of hand in a back-to-back Tiguan contest, because the Tiguan has fold-down trays on the back of the front seats.  :grin:

Oh and a lot of the Tiguans have DAB, which is a major draw for me.  :cool:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Steve30 on 10 August 2012, 21:15
My Tig does 50mpg at steady 70mph and around 38 around London town but thats driving it like fairy , the new Tigs have fold down seats which is a real + also stop start if you like that sort of thing. :wink:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 10 August 2012, 21:17
the new Tigs have fold down seats which is a real +

Eh?  The back seats don't fold down in all of them?!
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Steve30 on 10 August 2012, 21:47
the new Tigs have fold down seats which is a real +

Eh?  The back seats don't fold down in all of them?!

Thats what the dealer told me.
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 10 August 2012, 22:37
As the local dealer told me their demo was 'just what I wanted' after I'd told him I wanted an Escape and then had to admit that the demo wasn't an Escape, I wouldn't put too much faith in what dealers say.

That said German car manufacturers have had funny ideas about rear seats in the past.

 :grin:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Steve30 on 11 August 2012, 09:55
I managed to get my hands on a match with sunroof, DSG, DAB, Sienna alloys for just under £26000 car should have been £29,500 with mats full tank diesel, so there are deals to be had on the Tigs.
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 11 August 2012, 13:22
the new Tigs have fold down seats which is a real +

Eh?  The back seats don't fold down in all of them?!

I think with the toerag the seat folding is not as trick as they are in the Tig... They don't fold flat and you need to take the headrest off first.
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Steve30 on 11 August 2012, 21:29
Make sure you spec park assist its very good for showing off to the birds :grin:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 11 August 2012, 21:33
Make sure you spec park assist its very good for showing off to the birds :grin:

He won't be showing off anything to any birds.  :rolleyes:

Unless:

(http://stylefrizz.com/img/bird-car-lateral-mirror.jpg)

Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Steve30 on 11 August 2012, 22:14
^^^very nice photo that :grin:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 August 2012, 11:28
Having learned to drive on a sh*t-scraper tractor at the age of 13, if there's one thing I can do in this world, it's reverse parking.  :grin:

Trying one on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Steve30 on 12 August 2012, 18:38
Having learned to drive on a sh*t-scraper tractor at the age of 13, if there's one thing I can do in this world, it's reverse parking.  :grin:

Trying one on Tuesday.

Its nice to just press a button and it parks itself, great for showing off  :grin:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 14 August 2012, 18:19
FAIL.

I thought it was OK, Mrs Hell did NOT like it.
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 14 August 2012, 23:14
Back to the sh!t scrapper I guess.
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 15 August 2012, 14:44
Back to the sh!t scrapper I guess.

That is a very harsh description of our Passat.
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: dubber36 on 15 August 2012, 15:06
The 2.5 Touareg is painfully slow, you really need a 3.0. The Tiguan is a very good everyday car, but the Yeti is better.
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Steve30 on 15 August 2012, 15:48
The 2.5 Touareg is painfully slow, you really need a 3.0. The Tiguan is a very good everyday car, but the Yeti is better.

Herr Doc has been waiting 9 months for a yeti, yes they are good, but worth the 9month wait I dont think so :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 15 August 2012, 16:06
The Wife liked the Yeti even less.  Plasticky apparently
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: dubber36 on 15 August 2012, 16:24
The 2.5 Touareg is painfully slow, you really need a 3.0. The Tiguan is a very good everyday car, but the Yeti is better.

Herr Doc has been waiting 9 months for a yeti, yes they are good, but worth the 9month wait I dont think so :rolleyes:

He's not looking for a new one tho'.

Thinking outside the box, Kia Sportage or Hyundia ix35?
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: JC on 15 August 2012, 19:16
some TLC on the 4motion and a pressie for the Wife

Anything - and I mean ANYTHING is better than what I was subjected to viewing  at 6:30am today  :shocked:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Steve30 on 15 August 2012, 20:40
The 2.5 Touareg is painfully slow, you really need a 3.0. The Tiguan is a very good everyday car, but the Yeti is better.

Herr Doc has been waiting 9 months for a yeti, yes they are good, but worth the 9month wait I dont think so :rolleyes:

He's not looking for a new one tho'.

Thinking outside the box, Kia Sportage or Hyundia ix35?


Yes apparently so waiting on a new Yeti , they are good and you get more spec for ya bucks end of the day its the same platform  :wink:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Steve_PD on 15 August 2012, 20:52
some TLC on the 4motion and a pressie for the Wife

Anything - and I mean ANYTHING is better than what I was subjected to viewing  at 6:30am today  :shocked:

Surely it wont be as bad as some of the cars you've been looking at.... :tongue: :grin: :kiss:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: JC on 15 August 2012, 20:54
some TLC on the 4motion and a pressie for the Wife

Anything - and I mean ANYTHING is better than what I was subjected to viewing  at 6:30am today  :shocked:

Surely it wont be as bad as some of the cars you've been looking at.... :tongue: :grin: :kiss:

it was FRENCH  :sick: so I would say worse  :kiss:
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: Organisys on 16 August 2012, 13:33
The Wife liked the Yeti even less.  Plasticky apparently

Interior is very like a Touran..........only more plasticky !
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: danny_p on 21 August 2012, 20:56
monaro vxr
Title: Re: Tiguan, or Toerag?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 August 2012, 21:48
monaro vxr

I bet that tow's fine.  :grin: