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Title: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 07 August 2012, 20:43
Hi Guys

my golf is driving me crazy
it`s a 2000 20 valve turbo

agu engine

i have replaced the following

maf
plugs
coolant temp sender
stripped and cleaned the throttle body

car has done 84000 miles

starts fine but when you pull away it looses power but it does not cut out
i have tried nailing on the by pass and it seams okay for a few mins then it starts again

i am at my wits end with this car  :cry:
any help would be great
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 07 August 2012, 20:44
no fault codes either  :sad:
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: jamie1989 on 07 August 2012, 21:02
Boost pipe blown off?

No faults so nothing electrical.

Do you have a boost guage installed?
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 07 August 2012, 21:04
i had a look at the pipes and hoses
i dont see anything obvious
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 07 August 2012, 21:06
the other half has just told me she could smell fuel earlier
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 07 August 2012, 21:08
sorry
i dont have a boost gauge fitted
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Post by: markgti1.8t on 07 August 2012, 21:08
check you timing is ok had the same problem with a other car and it was the timing that jumped
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: jamie1989 on 07 August 2012, 21:12
Could be any pipe from turbo to intercooler then intercooler to throttle body, Check nothing has popped off or split.

Also check the breather system (pcv system) from the rocker cover youl see a 90degree pipe it follows down to the oil filter housing and under inlet manifold, Again very prone to splitting etc.

As you said youv changed the maf etc.
Does it miss at all?
A common fault if missing is 99% the ignition amp on airbox, this sensor plays part with the coil packs.

Dont spend silly money on it yet, Just check all pipework first then go from there.
AGU's are very simple so you should be ok once youv researched the engine identifying problems.
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 07 August 2012, 21:19
it could be the ignition amp
getting dark here so i will check the pipework and hoses tomorrow

failing that it could be the ignition amp

cheers mate
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: jamie1989 on 07 August 2012, 21:23
As I said dont throw money at it.

Take the plastic engine covers off and take a good look around.
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Post by: daz veedub on 07 August 2012, 21:28
i have a brand new ignition amp here with receipt if ya need 1  :smiley: £45 posted
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Post by: dan2252 on 07 August 2012, 21:56
when my boost pipe used to pop off it gave a strong smell of petrol :)
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 07 August 2012, 22:06
cheers Daz
i will keep that in mind  :smiley:

i had another look with a torch.does not appear to be any splits or hoses off

and there does seam to be a slight misfire

ignition amp maybe
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: jamie1989 on 07 August 2012, 22:37
When on boost an it hesitats or stutters it may be the ignition amp.
Take it off first clean off the face an connections try it again failing that buy Daz's and hes as geniune as it comes !
Top bloke  :cool:
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: james2 on 07 August 2012, 23:46
ignition amp playing up it will miss fire and sound like a retarded scooby. Dv playing up you wont get the hiss noise after letting off the gas you get a chatter/flutter noise. Boost leak from pipes ,look for a oily boost pipe (best look by intercooler).Spark plug gone ,you will be lucky to get out of second gear.  :evil: All these have no fault codes.  :nerd: All happened to my 1999 AGU.  :sick: Timing out you get a fault code.  :smug: but it will be cam shaft sensor as r-tech found when mapping it.  :grin:
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: daz veedub on 08 August 2012, 19:33
tis true jamie nice 1  :smiley:

got a spare agu maf aswell  :wink:
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 10 August 2012, 17:32
i checked all the hoses and nothing  :huh:

borrowed a ignition amp and that solved it,so i i bought a new one from ecp  :smiley:

the car is running better than ever  :smiley: :wink:

next jobs are:- cam belt kit, oil and filter change and replace the rear bushes as they are making one hell of a clunking sound

and not to forget the noisy starter  :wink:

when will it end  :wink:
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: jamie1989 on 10 August 2012, 17:50
Never
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Post by: simon_709 on 10 August 2012, 21:36
As above check all plugs and hoses etc and just have a good look around everything, and the bottom boost pipes from the inter cooler etc. Could try leaving ur battery disconnected overnight as well to reset the ecu? Anythings worth a try :)
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Post by: Wazzzer on 11 August 2012, 12:09
always good having a mate with an AGU, easy to swap bits around lol
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Post by: KeithyGTI on 13 August 2012, 21:27
I have a 2001 1.8GTI and it does the same mate. It seems to have got a little better over the last few months (Weather related????), it does seem worse when it has been raining for some reason??  I've also changed MAF sensor, Plugs, Thermostat, Fuel filter, various lengths of pipe, de-cat. Engine management light keeps coming on, code something to do with thermostat. I reset the code and sometimes it can go 3 weeks before the light comes on again, some times it can come back on with in a hour???

 VERY STRANGE
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 14 August 2012, 22:14
god dam it

it`s still playing up

where`s the swan vesta  :laugh:

fitted new fuel filter now

i thought golfs were reliable  :rolleyes:

i cant use the other car as its too greedy on fuel
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 17 September 2012, 17:40
after all my new parts its still playing up

only thing`s i have not done is

replaced the o2 sensor

checked the crankshaft sensor

changed the fuel pump

coil packs seam to be fine

reading through the 1.8 trouble guide does anyone think it could be the o2 sensor

2000 model agu
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: james2 on 17 September 2012, 18:25
after all my new parts its still playing up

only thing`s i have not done is

replaced the o2 sensor

checked the crankshaft sensor

changed the fuel pump

coil packs seam to be fine

reading through the 1.8 trouble guide does anyone think it could be the o2 sensor

2000 model agu

When my crankshaft sensor died or what ever happened to it i got a code popup .I didnt even know there was something wrong. Car drove fine. You say the ignition amp made it better ?
Have you got the alloy heat shield on the amp.   

Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 17 September 2012, 19:51
heat shield is there

there is no fault codes

a mate of mine hinted that it could be the crankshaft sensor

i think it might be the o2 sensor

everytime i take the plugs out they are black

i clean them and the car is fine

2 or 3 days later it`s back to the same

it`s driving me crazy  :cry:
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: james2 on 17 September 2012, 21:09
They should be a light brown or grey. What plugs you using ? Iv test loads of different plugs on the AGU engine. Most were black and sucked ,one set over heated and died .You cant beat ngk platinum PFR6Q perfect color (light brown) +spot on performance. The black sooty ones dropped power and would jurk on boost up a hill abit , i had to change them as to much soot they would of stopped sparking (had this with my old ford ,choke stuck on). If a crank sensor is cheap replace that as it says when to spark. On ford you could take it out and clean the clutch dust off the sensor. It sounds like the sparks your problem or somethings making it run to rich.  :undecided:
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Post by: james2 on 17 September 2012, 21:31
The best plugs for the AGU engine:  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK4-1-8-20V-TURBO-NGK-PLATINUM-SPARK-PLUGS-x4-PFR6Q-6458-VOLKSWAGEN-/110869008705?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19d04ed141

Better than denso,nology silver and pulse plugs.  :wink:
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: 1.8t.jim on 17 September 2012, 21:36
Same thing happened to me I changed lambda sensor and it was fine again
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 20 September 2012, 23:39
i have tried different plugs
currently running the PFR6Q
no matter what plug i fit it doe`s the same thing
if i take them and clean them it`s fine for 2 days or so
then its starts again

plug colour when i remove them = black  :sad:
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 20 September 2012, 23:41
where  is the o2 sensor located
will it be easy to remove or are they a nightmare to get out
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Chris. on 20 September 2012, 23:45
Hit it with a hammer on the bung in exhaust to free it up and it should come straight out.  Don't be scared to hit it.... Just watch the sensor
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 19 October 2012, 19:52
Here We go again,still dies on me when i pull away

my list of new parts fitted

Maf
temp sensor
ignition amp
crank sensor
new plugs(tried both ngk and super 4`s)
new lambda sensor
new fuel filter

no fault codes

anyone know what else  it could be


will i go for a box of matches
Title: Re: 1.8 gti dies on me
Post by: Affmaheed on 20 October 2012, 20:50
please  :sad: