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Title: fmic pipework help
Post by: azzsmith on 03 August 2012, 21:35
Hi all,
I have just bought a toyosports intercooler with 3" inlet and outlets.  :cool:  It comes with no pipework and tbh I have no idea of what angles, diameters etc etc to buy.
Only had the car a couple of months so not that clued up about it all yet!
Any help would be appreciated and possible some pics and pipework shopping list!
Cheers, azz  :smiley:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: mar_k on 03 August 2012, 21:38
Copied from Dundeals post......................







nope all you need is this

Intercooler specs are 600 x 300 x 76mm http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FMIC-FFRONT-MOUNT-TURBO-INTERCOOLER-TYPE-B-600x300x76MM-/310228624694?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item483b112536#ht_674wt_1163

2 x 90 degree 76mm hard pipes with beaded ends. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-Degree-Alloy-Aluminium-Pipe-Bend-Elbow-Intercooler-Pipework-Air-Intake-/160658691823?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item25680116ef#ht_1832wt_1163

2 x 90 degree 76mm silicone elbows in your choice of colour - these will need adjusting to length during fitting. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-Degree-Silicone-Elbow-Bend-Hose-Silicon-Rubber-Coolant-Radiator-Pipe-Car-/330650756290?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&var=&hash=item4cfc5224c2#ht_1102wt_905

2 x 90 degree 76 - 63mm reducing silicone elbows in your choice of colour. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-Degree-Reducers-Silicone-Elbow-Bend-Hose-Silicone-Rubber-Coolant-Rad-Pipe-/270865046133?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&var=&hash=item3f10d09a75#ht_1102wt_905

2 x 63mm alloy joiners. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Metal-Alloy-Aluminium-Hose-Joiners-Pipe-Connectors-Silicone-Rubber-Select-Size-/270867577918?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item3f10f73c3e#ht_1126wt_905

2 x 76mm alloy joiners. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Metal-Alloy-Aluminium-Hose-Joiners-Pipe-Connectors-Silicone-Rubber-Select-Size-/270867577918?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item3f10f73c3e#ht_1126wt_905

1 x 76mm 250mm length of straight silicone hose in your choice of colour. This needs to be cut into 2 lengths of 125mm to go on the end tanks of the cooler. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Meter-Straight-Silicone-Hose-Size-Colour-Choice-Roose-Motorsport-/251051638993?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&var=&hash=item3a73d800d1#ht_2300wt_1163

10 x 70 - 90mm jubilee clips http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/W4-Stainless-Steel-Zinc-Plated-Worm-Drive-Hose-Clips-Mikalor-ASH-Jubilee-/270925388819?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&var=&hash=item3f14695c13#ht_1102wt_905

2 x 50 - 70mm jubilee clips. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/W4-Stainless-Steel-Zinc-Plated-Worm-Drive-Hose-Clips-Mikalor-ASH-Jubilee-/270925388819?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&var=&hash=item3f14695c13#ht_1102wt_905
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: azzsmith on 03 August 2012, 21:40
Ok thanks mate.
Do you know whether this is all thats needed or is there anything else?  :huh:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: mar_k on 03 August 2012, 21:45
Not sure as I havent done it myself,
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: cullygti on 03 August 2012, 21:46
that is a big cooler  :cool:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: azzsmith on 03 August 2012, 21:47
Ok, thanks for you'r help mar_k  :smiley:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: azzsmith on 03 August 2012, 21:49
I'll take that as a compliment  :laugh: lol
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: azzsmith on 03 August 2012, 22:34
Also if anyone has any guides with pics would be appreciated  :tongue:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: ReDBull on 03 August 2012, 23:20
Have you looked at the other FMIC thread there's lots of info on the welleycooler there.
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: markgti1.8t on 23 September 2012, 21:42
Quote from: mar_k on 03 August 2012, 21:38
Copied from Dundeals post......................

 





nope all you need is this

Intercooler specs are 600 x 300 x 76mm http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FMIC-FFRONT-MOUNT-TURBO-INTERCOOLER-TYPE-B-600x300x76MM-/310228624694?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item483b112536#ht_674wt_1163

2 x 90 degree 76mm hard pipes with beaded ends. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-Degree-Alloy-Aluminium-Pipe-Bend-Elbow-Intercooler-Pipework-Air-Intake-/160658691823?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item25680116ef#ht_1832wt_1163

2 x 90 degree 76mm silicone elbows in your choice of colour - these will need adjusting to length during fitting. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-Degree-Silicone-Elbow-Bend-Hose-Silicon-Rubber-Coolant-Radiator-Pipe-Car-/330650756290?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&var=&hash=item4cfc5224c2#ht_1102wt_905

2 x 90 degree 76 - 63mm reducing silicone elbows in your choice of colour. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-Degree-Reducers-Silicone-Elbow-Bend-Hose-Silicone-Rubber-Coolant-Rad-Pipe-/270865046133?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&var=&hash=item3f10d09a75#ht_1102wt_905

2 x 63mm alloy joiners. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Metal-Alloy-Aluminium-Hose-Joiners-Pipe-Connectors-Silicone-Rubber-Select-Size-/270867577918?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item3f10f73c3e#ht_1126wt_905

2 x 76mm alloy joiners. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Metal-Alloy-Aluminium-Hose-Joiners-Pipe-Connectors-Silicone-Rubber-Select-Size-/270867577918?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item3f10f73c3e#ht_1126wt_905

1 x 76mm 250mm length of straight silicone hose in your choice of colour. This needs to be cut into 2 lengths of 125mm to go on the end tanks of the cooler. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Meter-Straight-Silicone-Hose-Size-Colour-Choice-Roose-Motorsport-/251051638993?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&var=&hash=item3a73d800d1#ht_2300wt_1163

10 x 70 - 90mm jubilee clips http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/W4-Stainless-Steel-Zinc-Plated-Worm-Drive-Hose-Clips-Mikalor-ASH-Jubilee-/270925388819?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&var=&hash=item3f14695c13#ht_1102wt_905

2 x 50 - 70mm jubilee clips. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/W4-Stainless-Steel-Zinc-Plated-Worm-Drive-Hose-Clips-Mikalor-ASH-Jubilee-/270925388819?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&var=&hash=item3f14695c13#ht_1102wt_905


hi there can some one tell me if this is rite or not thanks
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: golfyste on 24 September 2012, 07:58
You people really need to star looking in the maintenance and Info section as there ate a lot of useful stickies  :laugh:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=238012.0
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: rio_gti on 24 September 2012, 10:43
map sensor pipe???  :undecided:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: Prawny on 24 September 2012, 10:58
Quote from: markgti1.8t on 23 September 2012, 21:42
Quote from: mar_k on 03 August 2012, 21:38
Copied from Dundeals post......................

 





nope all you need is this

Intercooler specs are 600 x 300 x 76mm http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FMIC-FFRONT-MOUNT-TURBO-INTERCOOLER-TYPE-B-600x300x76MM-/310228624694?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item483b112536#ht_674wt_1163

2 x 90 degree 76mm hard pipes with beaded ends. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-Degree-Alloy-Aluminium-Pipe-Bend-Elbow-Intercooler-Pipework-Air-Intake-/160658691823?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item25680116ef#ht_1832wt_1163

2 x 90 degree 76mm silicone elbows in your choice of colour - these will need adjusting to length during fitting. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-Degree-Silicone-Elbow-Bend-Hose-Silicon-Rubber-Coolant-Radiator-Pipe-Car-/330650756290?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&var=&hash=item4cfc5224c2#ht_1102wt_905

2 x 90 degree 76 - 63mm reducing silicone elbows in your choice of colour. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-Degree-Reducers-Silicone-Elbow-Bend-Hose-Silicone-Rubber-Coolant-Rad-Pipe-/270865046133?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&var=&hash=item3f10d09a75#ht_1102wt_905

2 x 63mm alloy joiners. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Metal-Alloy-Aluminium-Hose-Joiners-Pipe-Connectors-Silicone-Rubber-Select-Size-/270867577918?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item3f10f73c3e#ht_1126wt_905

2 x 76mm alloy joiners. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Metal-Alloy-Aluminium-Hose-Joiners-Pipe-Connectors-Silicone-Rubber-Select-Size-/270867577918?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item3f10f73c3e#ht_1126wt_905

1 x 76mm 250mm length of straight silicone hose in your choice of colour. This needs to be cut into 2 lengths of 125mm to go on the end tanks of the cooler. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Meter-Straight-Silicone-Hose-Size-Colour-Choice-Roose-Motorsport-/251051638993?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&var=&hash=item3a73d800d1#ht_2300wt_1163

10 x 70 - 90mm jubilee clips http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/W4-Stainless-Steel-Zinc-Plated-Worm-Drive-Hose-Clips-Mikalor-ASH-Jubilee-/270925388819?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&var=&hash=item3f14695c13#ht_1102wt_905

2 x 50 - 70mm jubilee clips. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/W4-Stainless-Steel-Zinc-Plated-Worm-Drive-Hose-Clips-Mikalor-ASH-Jubilee-/270925388819?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&var=&hash=item3f14695c13#ht_1102wt_905


hi there can some one tell me if this is rite or not thanks

Without knowing how he plans to lay it all out, nobody knows!

I'd start by saying I think 76mm hard pipes and bends are a bad idea though, best to reduce straight down to 63 with 76-63 90 degree silicon reducers off the core.

I wrote quite about it in the thread that's linked above:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=238012.0

Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: rio_gti on 24 September 2012, 16:00
why not just buy this kit and also buy the big fmic and reducers?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FMIC-VW-GOLF-JETTA-MK4-1-8T-TURBO-INTERCOOLER-KIT-/200556783646?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D2273325302867420917%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D200556783646%26

i thought about this earlier  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: Prawny on 25 September 2012, 06:44
because that costs you £310, and a better setup can be built for about £200 :), or £230ish for an AUM

Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: rio_gti on 25 September 2012, 10:06
Quote from: Prawny on 25 September 2012, 06:44
because that costs you £310, and a better setup can be built for about £200 :), or £230ish for an AUM

it can??  :huh:

gonna start looking back into this soon  :whistle:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: Chris#101 on 25 September 2012, 18:09
Quote from: Prawny on 25 September 2012, 06:44
.

Regards to your write up

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=238012.0

Am I right in thinking this is how you set yours up (I know yours changes slightly down nearer the cooler but this will be for my golf) ?


(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w455/Chriselvinmx/Untitled.jpg)
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: rio_gti on 25 September 2012, 19:25
Where did you get those rims from????  :laugh:

Lovin that sketch thou makes it well clear  :wink:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: Prawny on 25 September 2012, 21:49
That's fantastic Chris, and exactly how mine is 100% :)

Nice drawing skills!
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: Chris#101 on 26 September 2012, 12:33
Quote from: Prawny on 25 September 2012, 21:49
That's fantastic Chris, and exactly how mine is 100% :)

Nice drawing skills!

Brilliant thanks for clearing that up  :cool: Ive got 2.5" from the cold side to t.b but hot side to turbo is a measley 1.75"  :sick:

Also I dont suppose you can remember the leg lenths you ordered can you? as theres dufferent lengths available?

cheers  :smiley:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: ReDBull on 28 September 2012, 14:01
I've fitted mine now
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/redbull2525/D8580440-B53B-481B-BE2B-59216655F3EB-211-0000001285ED2DA3.jpg)
These coolers are fantastic!!!
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: Toby on 28 September 2012, 18:14
^ tidy!

i did mine the same as prawn before he ventured over to here!  :laugh:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: ReDBull on 29 September 2012, 08:43
Quote from: Toby on 28 September 2012, 18:14
^ tidy!

i did mine the same as prawn before he ventured over to here!  :laugh:

That's impressive power figures! Have you got a project thread so I can have a look? I'm planning on getting mapped by Niki, I guess your impressed with his work!
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: Prawny on 30 September 2012, 16:10
Quote from: Chris#101 on 26 September 2012, 12:33
Quote from: Prawny on 25 September 2012, 21:49
That's fantastic Chris, and exactly how mine is 100% :)

Nice drawing skills!

Brilliant thanks for clearing that up  :cool: Ive got 2.5" from the cold side to t.b but hot side to turbo is a measley 1.75"  :sick:

Also I dont suppose you can remember the leg lenths you ordered can you? as theres dufferent lengths available?

cheers  :smiley:

6'' leg on all of them I believe mate, wasn't an option on the ASH ebay store when I ordered, but I went with ASH because on the whole they seem to give the longest leg length on their hoses compared to others.

Can always trim, but never add.

I didn't have to trim any of mine down at all. they all went together perfectly.
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: Toby on 30 September 2012, 17:01
Quote from: bullyboy on 29 September 2012, 08:43
Quote from: Toby on 28 September 2012, 18:14
^ tidy!

i did mine the same as prawn before he ventured over to here!  :laugh:

That's impressive power figures! Have you got a project thread so I can have a look? I'm planning on getting mapped by Niki, I guess your impressed with his work!

its in the dub rides section. Candywhite Ko4 R tech power!  :cool:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: ReDBull on 30 September 2012, 22:34
Quote from: Toby on 30 September 2012, 17:01
Quote from: bullyboy on 29 September 2012, 08:43
[quote author=Toby link=topic=237746.msg2223627#msg2223627

That's impressive power figures! Have you got a project thread so I can have a look? I'm planning on getting mapped by Niki, I guess your impressed with his work!

its in the dub rides section. Candywhite Ko4 R tech power!  :cool:

That's impressive my friend I'll have a good read of your thread.
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: rio_gti on 04 October 2012, 15:41
the reducer bends on the cooler itself, should they be 90's or 45's??

what fit best??
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: rio_gti on 04 October 2012, 16:25
and also what about the d/v? have the nipples off the old charge pipe welded to the 45 alli bend up top?

Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: Chris#101 on 04 October 2012, 20:23
Im doing mine tomorrow at work and  fitting mine this weekend  :evil: il take pics rio
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: rio_gti on 04 October 2012, 22:14
Quote from: Chris#101 on 04 October 2012, 20:23
Im doing mine tomorrow at work and  fitting mine this weekend  :evil: il take pics rio

Top man Chris  :smiley:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: rio_gti on 05 October 2012, 15:02
Quote from: Prawny on 25 September 2012, 06:44
because that costs you £310, and a better setup can be built for about £200 :), or £230ish for an AUM

just done myself a shoppin list on the bay and its come to £230 plus gotta get a map pipe from forge for £42 and also will have to get the dv take off welded (or find some way of doin this)

so £270 in total....... not the £230 i was hopin for  :grin:  :undecided:
Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: rio_gti on 09 October 2012, 17:14
Quote from: Chris#101 on 04 October 2012, 20:23
Im doing mine tomorrow at work and  fitting mine this weekend  :evil: il take pics rio

how did you get on at the weekend mate? did the rain put you off!!!??

Title: Re: fmic pipework help
Post by: Chris#101 on 09 October 2012, 17:34
Quote from: rio_gti on 09 October 2012, 17:14
Quote from: Chris#101 on 04 October 2012, 20:23
Im doing mine tomorrow at work and  fitting mine this weekend  :evil: il take pics rio

how did you get on at the weekend mate? did the rain put you off!!!??

sorry bud check pms  :smiley: