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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: vik on 31 July 2012, 19:33

Title: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: vik on 31 July 2012, 19:33
Which engines do and don't go into a mk2? I know there is quite a bit of interchangability between VAG stuff, so you could probably shoehorn in a lot of stuff, but I mean within reason, ie. fairly well known/documented swap.

So far i can think of:

9a 2.0
ABF 2.0
VR6 2.8 and 2.9
various flavours of 1.8t

any others?
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: Dogbot on 01 August 2012, 10:09
i know of a supercharged R32.... :smiley: but then, thats based around the VR lump i suppose,
Pd130 will go in but would require some serious research i would imagine
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: tony_ack on 01 August 2012, 10:18
Don't forget the simple 2.0 8v bottom end swap
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: Simeon on 01 August 2012, 13:43
You've only gone and forgotten the best one  :shocked:  ....  G60   :cool:
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: Diamond Hell on 01 August 2012, 13:51
1.9TDI

The issue is the number of variations there are on each motor: on ABF alone K-Junk, Megasquirt, Digi 3.2, ITBs, 02A gearbox as part of it etc etc
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: SoundillusioN on 01 August 2012, 13:54
You've only gone and forgotten the best one  :shocked:  ....  G60   :cool:

The best one for blowing gaskets.  :grin:
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 01 August 2012, 14:31
2.0 TFSI

Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: blueseamonkey on 02 August 2012, 13:10
If anyone has ever heard of a non-VAG engine going into a Mk2 I'd be interested to hear more. Hopefully mine will last a good few thousand more miles, but I may end up keeping it beyond the life of this engine. Parts are hard to come by here in Manila, a new Golf engine more so. Has anyone put anything Japanese in a Golf? I know it sounds like sacrilege, but it might be the only thing I can afford once the engine goes!
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: Dogbot on 02 August 2012, 14:07
well there is the Vorsche........
 :grin: :grin:

(http://www.vwaudistyle.ch/portal/pagebilder/reportagen/golf/vorsche_27.jpg)
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: FrankyGalactus on 02 August 2012, 14:27
S2 quattro engine is a nice one.
As far as non vag goes...
Theres a mk2 with a 5.0 TVR griffith engine. Those are practical

(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k493/Franktaztik/IMG_0897.jpg)
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: twotwofour on 02 August 2012, 16:36
Could we agree on degree of difficulty to fitting each engine and what parts require modifying/supplying.

I've got a 16v but with 170k miles I'm thinking it might expire in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: Dogbot on 02 August 2012, 16:44
VW's Are like Lego's..... its all there ya just look at pictures an count the bumpy bits  :grin:
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: vik on 04 August 2012, 22:03
S2 quattro engine is a nice one.
As far as non vag goes...
Theres a mk2 with a 5.0 TVR griffith engine. Those are practical

(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k493/Franktaztik/IMG_0897.jpg)

Bet that corners nicely.
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: vik on 04 August 2012, 22:04
Could we agree on degree of difficulty to fitting each engine and what parts require modifying/supplying.


This is basically what I was getting at. Obviously lots of engines can fit. But I mean realistic/well known and documented swaps.

Is there anything other than a like for like swap that will go straight in, or nearly straight into a 16v?
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: Simeon on 06 August 2012, 00:55
ABF (ok, basically like for like, but very easy)
G60 (pretty straight forward)
1.8t (pretty well documented)
1.9td (AAZ - straight forward diesel swap)
1.9tdi (1Z/AHU - little more complicated by potentiometer req'd for throttle)
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: Mr Blue on 06 August 2012, 01:40
Whats with the PD conversions. Why are they difficult? A few keep mentioning the wiring?
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: Diamond Hell on 06 August 2012, 13:55
Whats with the PD conversions. Why are they difficult? A few keep mentioning the wiring?

In terms of understatement, I think this is a stinker.  :grin:
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 06 August 2012, 14:30
Ahem!

Chevy V8

http://www.cwstuning.com/gallery/coupe-degolf/engineandfrontshot

Audi V8 Twin Turbo

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?2821397-Golf-Rallye-V8-Twin-Turbo


Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: Mr Blue on 06 August 2012, 22:53
Whats with the PD conversions. Why are they difficult? A few keep mentioning the wiring?

In terms of understatement, I think this is a stinker.  :grin:

I'm a wireman by trade and would love to do the PD conversion one day. I think I read that you did this conversion?
Seems to be limited guides on this conversion. Whats so difficult about it?
Only a few wires :evil:
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: danny_p on 06 August 2012, 23:51
with the PD it's  not the wires themselves that are the killer,  you need a lot of donour car and really a cracked ecu or it is a twerp.

theer are a whole lot of litel issues that on there own aren't any big deal  but add them all up and can be arsed runs out.  bit like the TFSI motor

Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 August 2012, 09:22
I'm a wireman by trade and would love to do the PD conversion one day. I think I read that you did this conversion?

No.  I think Danny had a pop at it a while back.  Not sure of the outcome.

It's only wires, so it must be possible, but I think it's a lot of work to end up with a TDI engine.  :grin:
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: SoundillusioN on 07 August 2012, 09:40
I'm a wireman by trade and would love to do the PD conversion one day. I think I read that you did this conversion?

No.  I think Danny had a pop at it a while back.  Not sure of the outcome.

It's only wires, so it must be possible, but I think it's a lot of work to end up with a TDI engine.  :grin:

Didn't A7 UFO do this some time ago.
Title: Re: Definitive engine swap thread.
Post by: danny_p on 07 August 2012, 22:44

No.  I think Danny had a pop at it a while back.  Not sure of the outcome.

put it in,  got it running, drove it up the road, decided didn't like it , pulled it back out and sold it.

pd 130 with a map will make a mk2 move in some serious order  feel faster than a lot of 1.8t's  ( once its stopped spinning ) but on the downside car drives like lumphammer tho   :sad:   way to nose heavy and full of torque steering nastyness and throttel seemed to be like an on / off switch.
think mapped skoda fabia VRS with the anti crash turned off but worse. 

basicly it's a whole lot of work and all you do is remove all the GTi ness  ,  fast but not fun