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Title: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Godzilla on 30 July 2012, 17:22
Hi

In the past 6-7 years of being on here I have had a good few MK2 GTI's, MK3 GTI's and VR6.

Looking at some MK4 GTI's now.  The 1.8 Turbo (150bhp) gets ok reviews but what about its MPG?  I do about 45-50 miles a day, this is A roads and town driving.  How much does it cost to fill a MK4 GTI Turbo up from empty and how many miles can you get to that, lets say average driving style.

Thanks in advance  :smiley:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: JimBR on 30 July 2012, 17:25
£70, 280-300 miles. 70% town driving 30% motorway driving. But Im using v power at £1.40/L.
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Post by: jamie1989 on 30 July 2012, 17:28
50 miles a day 4 days a week running AGU 195bhp stage 1 remap.

That costs me £40 mixed driving between town and 'A' roads  :wink:

Fill up is about £70 but I never drive normal with full tanks  :evil: so weekly £40 for me haha
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Jonny on 30 July 2012, 17:40
Can get £74 in AUQ.
Pussy footing around being economical looking at 34mpg averaging 75 on motorway. Average 85 and down to 27mpg.
50/50 A and motorway gonna struggle to average 33 unless doing 60mph.
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Godzilla on 30 July 2012, 17:48
Thanks for fast replies.

So not that bad then.  My VR6 used to make me  :cry: at fill up times......200 miles to a tank!!  She was RR'd @ 184.8bhp so I was very happy till I took on a MK4 GTI thinking I was going to walk all over it.....He won, looked standard from outside but must have had a re-map or something?  I have been in a MK4 and they feel solid and fairly comfy.  Trouble is my daughter is now 14 and wants to be seen in something a bit flash so a Golf GTI MK4 seems a good choice as they look good, go well and fairly practical as I have an American Bulldog who needs a bit of boot space.
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: jamie1989 on 30 July 2012, 18:01
Yeah and if you get post 2001 you will already have a k03s turbo which a remap alone on a good standard car will achieve 210bhp quite easy.
Mk4's are getting way too cheap these days  :sad:
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Post by: Nino on 30 July 2012, 18:02
My AUM costs me about 60-70 to fill her up, i got 318 miles out of my last tank and i do have a heavy foot at times, worst i have had is about 268 and i mainly do town driving. My misses lives about 20 miles from my house and i drove bk the other week (motorway) kept her at 60 all the way home (was just relaxing) and got 43MPG on my trip :D

Also to add tois my engine ant running right ether, changing my thermo and temp sender tonight and i also got the lovely 17705 error code :(
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Wazzzer on 30 July 2012, 18:20
Just filled mine up from empty, £68 of Tescos finest 99 RON  :smiley:

I get roughly 220 miles to a tank but that's all stop/start driving over here  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: cullygti on 30 July 2012, 19:17
Just filled mine up from empty, £68 of Tescos finest 99 RON  :smiley:

I get roughly 220 miles to a tank but that's all stop/start driving over here  :rolleyes:

£68 is what i got in from empty
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: dom on 30 July 2012, 19:17
I get around 27-28mpg day to day driving, this creeps up to just over 30 on the motorway and drops to the teens when driving spiritedly
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: shaft69 on 30 July 2012, 20:04
£70 full tank 340miles using tesco 99 80% motorway.
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Post by: Dalo Harkin on 30 July 2012, 20:06
240 out of a tank using either tesco 99 or V power (I do have a faulty lambda though lol) and I have heavy foot  :grin:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: JimBR on 30 July 2012, 20:10
My long term average is 31.2 I think.
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: stfc_gti on 30 July 2012, 21:54
£65 quid a week. 64miles a day average 90% motorway. 350 a tank average 38mpg ish
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: dom on 30 July 2012, 22:01
This is my last 6000 of driving:

http://www.fuelly.com/driver/dom069/gti (http://www.fuelly.com/driver/dom069/gti)
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Steve_PD on 30 July 2012, 22:23
600 miles to £65 of the finest black stuff :cool: :laugh:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Wayne on 30 July 2012, 22:28
Full tank and mixed driving around 250 to 300 miles.
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: dan2252 on 30 July 2012, 23:28
i put 50 pound in other day and with doing fair bit of driving over weekend mainly a roads abit of motorways ive goten just over 200 miles to 50 pound of super, driving 90 percent of the time normal, i dont fill my car oftern but when i have done ive had it to about 280 mainly round town. if you keep off the boost they seem to be rather good! my mpg gauge just goes to a flat line after giving it alot of stick for a little while haha :)
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Post by: DunnDeal12 on 30 July 2012, 23:47
600 miles to £65 of the finest black stuff :cool: :laugh:

soy source?
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: GTi_James on 31 July 2012, 00:08
i can get 50 miles per 1/8 of tank reading on mine but thats fannying about with country roads, drove to gatwick and back on saturday from Ipswich and did it out 1.3 of a tank, 70mph, sensible me...but then i get the urge to pull past every gary boy in the village as they as they come on to the A12 in the mornings and evenings in their Saxos and Corsas  :sick:

34MPG if im being good and seeing that i think its a 55ltr tank its not bad

18MPG when im being a a menace to the chavs

...no mods yet either but get remapped and i hear you can add another 10MPG...dont know if this is true though
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Godzilla on 31 July 2012, 09:57
600 miles to £65 of the finest black stuff :cool: :laugh:


Bloody 'ell Steve.......Which TDI do you have?  From what I know they do a 100, 130 and 150bhp versions?  Are the engines called 'PD'?
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 31 July 2012, 10:05
Thnks he's got a GT TDI 150 :)
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Post by: Rhyso on 31 July 2012, 10:08
Thnks he's got a GT TDI 150 :)

That he does; well a 190ish bhp version anyway  :smiley:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: jamie1989 on 31 July 2012, 10:40

...no mods yet either but get it remapped and I KNOW you can MINUS another 10MPG...do know if this is true though

 :grin:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Godzilla on 31 July 2012, 10:47
190BHP and getting 600 miles from a tank......That is very impressive!!  The torque must be shocking.
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: dom on 31 July 2012, 10:57

...no mods yet either but get it remapped and I KNOW you can MINUS another 10MPG...do know if this is true though

 :grin:

I was about to say, you'll never see an extra 10mpg. Theoretically you'll see a slight increase if you drive in exactly the same way, realistically this will never happen.
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Godzilla on 31 July 2012, 11:50

...no mods yet either but get it remapped and I KNOW you can MINUS another 10MPG...do know if this is true though

 :grin:

I was about to say, you'll never see an extra 10mpg. Theoretically you'll see a slight increase if you drive in exactly the same way, realistically this will never happen.

I have read about this Dom......How if driven in the exact same manner after a re-map increase MPG......This has always confused me.
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: jamie1989 on 31 July 2012, 12:05
The theory is you dont have to push the car has hard to make the car go faster if that makes sence.

With 150bhp you have to push it harder to get to 70 for example than a remapped 1.8t
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: GTi_James on 31 July 2012, 12:07
so in some ways i heard correctly? so confused now  :huh:
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Post by: Rhyso on 31 July 2012, 12:11
190BHP and getting 600 miles from a tank......That is very impressive!!  The torque must be shocking.

Should be around the 300lbs ft mark possibly a little more

I'm getting 540ish out of my A3 with 205bhp and 320lbs ft

On a run fuel economy should improve as the engine is working more efficiently.  Your engine needs to be in good health though.  Any minor problems will be highlighted by a remap
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: jamie1989 on 31 July 2012, 12:22
so in some ways i heard correctly? so confused now  :huh:

What are you confused about mate?
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: GTi_James on 31 July 2012, 12:46
so in some ways i heard correctly? so confused now  :huh:

What are you confused about mate?

well Rtech and AMD both say increased MPG due to better torque is this right? granny driving obviously?
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Post by: harlemex on 31 July 2012, 13:23
yes thats right. or so they say....

I can get 320 to 340 miles from a tank, but that is sensible driving mind.
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Post by: GTi_James on 31 July 2012, 13:33
yes thats right. or so they say....

I can get 320 to 340 miles from a tank, but that is sensible driving mind.

with a full tank i can get about 100miles out of 1/4 and thats unmodded, thinking should have better performance once my decade old PCV system is yanked out and all the useless pipes are gone, better engine better fuel economy right? then i'll throw in a miltek or alternative, a spec1 from Rtech and try n lighten the car somehow  :sad:

...and stop driving my girlfriends plump mother around and not get an ounce of gratitude for it  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: dom on 31 July 2012, 14:25
so in some ways i heard correctly? so confused now  :huh:

What are you confused about mate?

well Rtech and AMD both say increased MPG due to better torque is this right? granny driving obviously?

Yup, theoretically the engine will be working more efficiently, therefore using slightly less fuel. In reality this will not happen as you will enjoy planting the throttle too much. I've already posted a link to my fuel consumption over my last 6000 miles of driving, long term average is 27mpg. Before the remap it was 30ish.
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Post by: GTi_James on 31 July 2012, 15:25
i'm all sensible me....anyone ever fitted nitros?  :laugh:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Godzilla on 31 July 2012, 16:11
 I've already posted a link to my fuel consumption over my last 6000 miles of driving, long term average is 27mpg. Before the remap it was 30ish.
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That is not that bad then Dom as a re-map can add on an extra 40-50bhp, so for a 190bhp car 27mpg over 6000 miles is good, well I think so!  My VR6 over 4000 miles was 23mpg  :cry:

So what would 0-60 times be on a re-mapped Golf GTI and what would top speed be? 
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: xtetx on 31 July 2012, 16:33
Im in a 1.6 16v and averaging 44mpg using 99 tesco momentum!  :laugh:
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Post by: GTi_James on 31 July 2012, 16:41
Im in a 1.6 16v and averaging 44mpg using 99 tesco momentum!  :laugh:

dump a 1.8t in there and cry every friday when you fill up lol though i do quite well with £30 top up a week. slightly annoyed though coz my mate has a Honda Vtech and only fills up once every 3 weeks  :shocked: and tbf the polo GTi is filled up 1 every 3weeks too....i hate my mum
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Post by: damien010685 on 31 July 2012, 16:42
Im in a 1.6 16v and averaging 44mpg using 99 tesco momentum!  :laugh:

Do you see a difference in MPG using momentum to normal unleaded?
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Post by: Steve_PD on 31 July 2012, 16:53
Im in a 1.6 16v and averaging 44mpg using 99 tesco momentum!  :laugh:

dump a 1.8t in there and cry every friday when you fill up lol though i do quite well with £30 top up a week. slightly annoyed though coz my mate has a Honda Vtech and only fills up once every 3 weeks  :shocked: and tbf the polo GTi is filled up 1 every 3weeks too....i hate my mum

I put £70ish a week in my smoker :sad:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: dom on 31 July 2012, 17:55

That is not that bad then Dom as a re-map can add on an extra 40-50bhp, so for a 190bhp car 27mpg over 6000 miles is good, well I think so!  My VR6 over 4000 miles was 23mpg  :cry:

So what would 0-60 times be on a re-mapped Golf GTI and what would top speed be? 

Mine was 205bhp & 245lb/ft when first mapped, I have since added a 3" turbo back exhaust with decat and silicone boost pipes & TIP, so I'm not sure what it is running now.

Again, not really sure on 0-60 time, it's not much slower to 60 than my mates 3.2 TT, and from a rolling 40-50mph start there is nothing between them. Top speed is something I have never tried, it has seen the naughty side of 140 on an old airstrip but I ran out of road :wink:
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Post by: Harooshum on 31 July 2012, 19:11
I'm so impressed and happy with my petrol GTI-T (150bhp) I thought I'd share it:    £70 to fill, reset counter and driving through London I've done 300 miles when the fuel light comes on - that's good HOWEVER the last two tanks have taken me over 400 miles before the light comes on!  No lie!  That's what 'd expect from a diesel!

Forget about motorways - my last two tanks were driven on A-roads where my speed fluctuates between 40-50-60 in low traffic.  Along with an economical driving style this is easily achieved.  Remember that most if not all mass produced cars peak around 56mph for optimal mpg.

On the MFD reset the MPG"2" view at every fillup, and you can be sure it's pretty damn accurate!  I say always keep an eye on the MPG"1" view (per trip) and play games with yourself to keep these numbers high.

Considering the power, build, comfort, style, economy etc the MK4 GTI Turbo (decent one for £2000) is 10/10!!! :laugh:
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Post by: GTi_James on 31 July 2012, 19:20
I'm so impressed and happy with my petrol GTI-T (150bhp) I thought I'd share it:    £70 to fill, reset counter and driving through London I've done 300 miles when the fuel light comes on - that's good HOWEVER the last two tanks have taken me over 400 miles before the light comes on!  No lie!  That's what 'd expect from a diesel!

Forget about motorways - my last two tanks were driven on A-roads where my speed fluctuates between 40-50-60 in low traffic.  Along with an economical driving style this is easily achieved.  Remember that most if not all mass produced cars peak around 56mph for optimal mpg.

On the MFD reset the MPG"2" view at every fillup, and you can be sure it's pretty damn accurate!  I say always keep an eye on the MPG"1" view (per trip) and play games with yourself to keep these numbers high.

Considering the power, build, comfort, style, economy etc the MK4 GTI Turbo (decent one for £2000) is 10/10!!! :laugh:

+1
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Post by: xtetx on 31 July 2012, 19:23
Im in a 1.6 16v and averaging 44mpg using 99 tesco momentum!  :laugh:

Do you see a difference in MPG using momentum to normal unleaded?

yes mate a big difference, last time i filled up with 95 i got no where near that mpg!
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: xtetx on 31 July 2012, 19:23
Im in a 1.6 16v and averaging 44mpg using 99 tesco momentum!  :laugh:

dump a 1.8t in there and cry every friday when you fill up lol though i do quite well with £30 top up a week. slightly annoyed though coz my mate has a Honda Vtech and only fills up once every 3 weeks  :shocked: and tbf the polo GTi is filled up 1 every 3weeks too....i hate my mum
haha i think i will cry every day once ive done the conversion! i spend £70 a week on fuel as it is! i do lots of miles!
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Post by: Harooshum on 31 July 2012, 19:29
Thanks Dom for telling me about fuelly.com!   I'm really anal about this, I only ever fill to the brim (for accuracy), I keep every receipt and reset all counters at fillups.  Then take photos of the MFD at all the "2" settings and go by the trip reading to show how many miles the tank gave me to the nearest 10th of a mile!  I've also been building a fat-ass excel spreadsheet about the car.  It's not that I don't have fun, just want to know what my car does exactly.
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Post by: cullygti on 31 July 2012, 19:31
i reset my counter everytime to mate but taking pictures really is going to another level  :grin:  :grin:
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Post by: Harooshum on 31 July 2012, 19:38
I'm aware of that lol!  Actually I only take pics of the MPG"2", avg MPH"2" and hours since last reset.  I'm impressed how accurate the MPG readings are!
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Post by: xtetx on 31 July 2012, 19:39
deffo next level that! i take the odd picture when i get a record like this!

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/xtetx/a28b9d54.jpg)
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Post by: Steve_PD on 31 July 2012, 20:31
What I get sat at 70mph

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/kryptik_2010/05042009228-1.jpg)

What I get per tank

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/kryptik_2010/HTC/2012-02-18120636.jpg)

Plus Ive gone 50 miles past 0 before I bottled it :lipsrsealed: :laugh: :tongue:
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Post by: Dalo Harkin on 31 July 2012, 20:35
i reset my counter everytime to mate but taking pictures really is going to another level  :grin:  :grin:

serial killer level  :grin:
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Post by: xtetx on 31 July 2012, 20:35
hahaha !!
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Post by: cullygti on 31 July 2012, 20:41
ok maybe i took a picture once and the mpg was only the best i have ever had cos i was driving like a f*g**t  :grin:
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af149/cullygti/IMAG0395.jpg)
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: damien010685 on 31 July 2012, 20:56
Im in a 1.6 16v and averaging 44mpg using 99 tesco momentum!  :laugh:

Do you see a difference in MPG using momentum to normal unleaded?

yes mate a big difference, last time i filled up with 95 i got no where near that mpg!

Weird from a low powered car my mates 1.6 fiesta sees no difference but good that you do :D
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Post by: dom on 31 July 2012, 21:19
This is the only time I have taken a picture of mine, this was the average of over 30 miles of driving:

(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/IMAG0744.jpg)
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Post by: Steve_PD on 31 July 2012, 21:26
EPC and engine light on.....MAF?
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Post by: Rhyso on 31 July 2012, 21:34
EPC and engine light on.....MAF?

Fcuked  :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: GTi_James on 31 July 2012, 22:33
ok my MPG is scared of going over 24 but i'm wondering if leaking boost pipes could cause the problem too? and i seem to do better miles with half a tank than with a full tank? could it be the extra weight?
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: dom on 31 July 2012, 22:35
EPC and engine light on.....MAF?

Fcuked  :laugh: :laugh:

Nah, ignition off and then back on hence all the lights :grin:

This on the other hand was my MAF throwing these up a couple of weeks ago :laugh::

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376861_576765498013_879597428_n.jpg)
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Post by: jamie1989 on 31 July 2012, 22:37
Thats a low mileage 1.8t  :cool:
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Post by: cullygti on 31 July 2012, 22:38
thats lower than mine and iv had 2 engines  :grin:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: dom on 31 July 2012, 22:39
Thats a low mileage 1.8t  :cool:

Yup, bought it with 51k on the clock just over a year ago :cool:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Rhyso on 31 July 2012, 22:47
Thats a low mileage 1.8t  :cool:

Yup, bought it with 51k on the clock just over a year ago :cool:

Nige still has a lower mileage one though  :wink:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: dom on 31 July 2012, 22:48
Thats a low mileage 1.8t  :cool:

Yup, bought it with 51k on the clock just over a year ago :cool:

Nige still has a lower mileage one though  :wink:

Yeah but nige does about 2 miles a week :grin:
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Post by: GTi_James on 31 July 2012, 22:48
anyone get the feeling this topics been hi-jacked? lol  :laugh:
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Post by: cullygti on 31 July 2012, 22:50
anyone get the feeling this topics been hi-jacked? lol  :laugh:

take a look at every topic since 02'  :grin:
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Post by: GTi_James on 31 July 2012, 22:53
bunch of Topic Bandits!
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Post by: cullygti on 31 July 2012, 22:59
bunch of Topic Bandits!

 :grin:  :grin:
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Wisey on 01 August 2012, 19:58
My average

(http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc333/Wisey_123/c56cbfc3.jpg)

My best on an easy cruise between 55-70mph

(http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc333/Wisey_123/74d4e67a.jpg)

Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: GTi_James on 01 August 2012, 21:53
mods?
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: dom on 01 August 2012, 22:23
What App is that?
Title: Re: New to MK4's, MPG advise.
Post by: Wisey on 01 August 2012, 22:35
100% standard AGU and normally run on tesco 95ron  :grin: 

The app is Road Trip there is a free one and paid one. Get the free one and if you like it get the paid one. Because you can transfer all the info over  :smiley:. The free one is just basically the MPG cost per mile etc. And the paid one you can add all the expense of running a car like parts, servicing, tax etc and see how much your car is really costing you a year/mile  :cry:  :grin: