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Title: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Robracer on 25 July 2012, 21:16
Hi guy's, I'm in need of some urgent advice, on behalf of a friend. I'm hoping this is the correct thread though?
It's practically a brand new KIA cee'd, he left a can of galvanizing paint in his boot, and with the hot weather today it exploded and deposited its contents all over the glass, plastic & carpet! we've tried wurth industrial cleener and only managed the glass. what else would remove the galvanising paint?
Thanks in advance guy's
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Post by: danny_p on 25 July 2012, 23:56
new trim
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Robracer on 26 July 2012, 08:22
That's what I suggested, but that would cost a small fortune. He wasn't to fond of that idea
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Post by: Mr Blue on 26 July 2012, 17:53
Plastics will be a bodyshop thinner or IPA IsoPropyl Alcohol job.


Carpet will be a gonner though!
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Post by: AcidicDavey on 26 July 2012, 19:29
Take the carpet out and spray it with black spray paint, will look a whole lot better but of course it won't be perfect but'll do until a replacement can be found.
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: danny_p on 26 July 2012, 19:43
if you try acetone/ thinners/ gunwash  try it somewhere out the way.   that stuff eats sme plastics  also it will turn into one big smear so you'll need to rinse it off a few times till it's managable  just hope it hasent eaten the trim by that point
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Mr GTD on 26 July 2012, 21:13
That's some bad luck, and on a new car aswel...even if it was just a Kia cee'd :evil: it's a new car none the less...

Got any pics?
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Robracer on 27 July 2012, 00:30
Cheers, I must admit I had cellulose thinners and isopropanol in mind, but I was worried about them eating the plastic trim. He had the idea of respraying the trim to cover up the zinc paint, but tbh won't be able to match the look of brand new trim. But so far, the glass is doable. But I never thought of spraying the carpet? Would that last? Durability wise? I do have a few pics but their on my lumix, I'm presently on my HTC. I'll upload some after work tommorow. Could start a warning guide on leaving aerosol cans in your during the summer months! lol
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Post by: philmar on 27 July 2012, 09:33
 Would the Insurance pay out for this type of incident ?
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Post by: jv on 27 July 2012, 17:27
That's what I suggested, but that would cost a small fortune. He wasn't to fond of that idea

Have you got that option priced up? Even just the carpet might be worth it for a lot less faf.
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Robracer on 27 July 2012, 19:46
An insurance claim might actually work? We didn't think of that. I'll mention it to him though. As for replacing the trim, thats what i'd do if it were my car. But he doesn't want to pay out for new trim, especially for a brand new car..

The evidence:
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Misc%20ALbum/P1000359.jpg)

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Misc%20ALbum/P1000358.jpg)

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Misc%20ALbum/P1000357.jpg)
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Mr GTD on 27 July 2012, 21:58
Damn! That does looks nasty...I think insurance is your best bet, good luck to your mate pal, I personally wud be in pieces if my pride and joy looked like that...
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Robracer on 27 July 2012, 22:40
If an Insurance claim seems the best way to fix this ugly mess, what would be the best way of explaining it to them. Im asking because if he simply states he had an aerosol can explode, surely they'll say, its the claimants fault? and not accept the claim?
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: philmar on 28 July 2012, 08:17
 If your Insurance was arranged through a broker, simply ask them. If the Insurance is Comprehensive, as it probably is on such a new car, can they refuse to accept the claim, it was an accident after all. Check how any claim will affect your NCD, it might not make economic sense to even make a claim.
  You could try to obtain the parts from a breaker, I realise that the car is new but even new cars get broken up after being in accidents.
 
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Robracer on 29 July 2012, 23:45
At the moment, an insurance claim is a possibility, but we've managed to find a few chemicals that might manage to remove the paint from the trim. All dependant on patch testing first of course. We've tried all the shop bought stuff, with no removal success. I look forward to some good hard graft! lol. I'll keep you posted with piccys.
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Post by: Guy on 29 July 2012, 23:55
if you are going down the route of cleaning and not replacing I would strip the items out of the car first... otherwise you will forever be finding bits that you have missed.. this way you'll get to everything and have a much easier working environment

on trim, if you can find a chemical to break down the paint then let the chemical do the work and don't be tempted to 'scrub' the trim with harsh materials or you will end up possibly marring or scratching it

good luck with this
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Post by: danny_p on 29 July 2012, 23:58
what about poking the mkers of the aerosol with a stick
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Guy on 30 July 2012, 07:56
what about poking the mkers of the aerosol with a stick

Very good shout that!
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Post by: Mr GTD on 30 July 2012, 08:04
what about poking the mkers of the aerosol with a stick

LMAO! :grin: yes do this!!!
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Post by: Pinky 1959 on 30 July 2012, 11:53
Try e mailing photos to the manufacturer of the can and state you are very dissapointed in the quality of the products ,and ask what they recommend for removal .
Also e mail Kia and ask if they will do you a deal on new parts .
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Mr GTD on 30 July 2012, 23:24
Try e mailing photos to the manufacturer of the can and state you are very dissapointed in the quality of the products ,and ask what they recommend for removal .
Also e mail Kia and ask if they will do you a deal on new parts .


Yes it might be worth actually taking the vehicle down the Kia dealership to left them have a ganda and see what solutions they come up with...
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Robracer on 03 August 2012, 17:48
Well guy's, we finally got round to dealing with the mess that was left by the exploding aerosol can! We ended up using dichloromethane,  This colorless, volatile liquid with a moderately sweet aroma is widely used as a solvent. And it worked very well, but we had to be rather careful as it can eat some plastics it seem's.

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(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Aug%20Misc%20Album/P1000365.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Aug%20Misc%20Album/P1000370.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Aug%20Misc%20Album/P1000371.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Aug%20Misc%20Album/P1000366.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Aug%20Misc%20Album/P1000367.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Aug%20Misc%20Album/P1000372.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Aug%20Misc%20Album/P1000374.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Aug%20Misc%20Album/P1000376.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Aug%20Misc%20Album/P1000373.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/robracer69/Aug%20Misc%20Album/P1000375.jpg)
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Mr GTD on 03 August 2012, 18:03
Nearly looks good as new :cool:
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Robracer on 03 August 2012, 18:12
Thanks, it did take a fair bit of elbow grease! lol. It's amazing how durable the KIA plastic is, it responded well to the chemical we thought. But we had to resort to using t-cut on the boot door window, the UG-90 etched itself to the glass. But with a combination of t-cut, Wurth industrial cleaner and glass cleaner, it came up looking almost as good as new. I'll certainly remember not to leave a rallle can in my Golf's boot.....
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Post by: Jimble on 03 August 2012, 21:19
Bloody hell mate, that looks like a top job! I thought that was the end of those plastics tbh. :cool:
Title: Re: aerosol can blew up in boot!
Post by: Robracer on 04 August 2012, 19:41
That's we thought once we'd got the boot door panel off! it looked far worse in the bright daylight. But thanks to the KIA plastic, it stood up well to the dichloromethane. It just proves you can restore plastic to its original self