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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: bobbarley on 25 July 2012, 18:49

Title: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: bobbarley on 25 July 2012, 18:49
So after 13 years one of the windows on my mk4 has FINALLY dropped.  Front passenger side to be exact.

I've stripped the door down and propped the window up.  As well as the plastic clips being broken the cabling that connects to the motor is completely chewed to pieces as well, so am looking to replace the regulator.

Question.  The regulator is help onto the inner door fram thing by 4 rivets, which I will have to drill out.  How should I fix the new regulator back on. Can I just get 4 nuts and bolts and do it that way?  Or do I need to get a rivet gun?
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: MC_PEA on 25 July 2012, 18:51
You would prob need to rivet them on because I would think a bolt mite get in the way of the window
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: bobbarley on 25 July 2012, 18:56
This coule be a good shout, especially with 25% discount?  No hassle, just bolt it all in and away I go.

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_1.8_2000/p/car-parts/car-body-parts-and-car-exhaust/body-shop/window-regulator-and-window-winders/?492442791&1&e62bb786b4a9b34230fb4ca2f4dcf89c59a3ff7e&000374
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: Wazzzer on 25 July 2012, 20:06
when I bought my kit it had the white part that the cables wind round, cables and clips in the box. It was about £36

If you get the same kit they are easy enough to do, the lobes that the cable runs round have eccentric parts on there that allow you fit the cable without needing much tension. As soon as you test it the cables pop onto the runners.

The part you've put up does seem like a bargain with discount though, just remember you'll have to drill out the speaker and rivet it back on
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: Wazzzer on 25 July 2012, 20:08
also don't waste time trying to get the black part back that links to the door module on to the panel, it doesn't need to be fitted again :wink:
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: bobbarley on 25 July 2012, 20:12
Yeah, no idea why the door module is connected with plastic, no need to be!

I'm going to ring ECP tomorrow to check it's the whole thing.  If so for £42 I'll get it.  Ordered a rivet gun for £3.50 from eBay.

Deciding whether to upgrade the speakers or leave e alone  :smiley:
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: bobbarley on 25 July 2012, 20:14
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_1.8_2000/p/car-parts/car-body-parts-and-car-exhaust/body-shop/window-regulator-and-window-winders/?492442850&1&3509ed8ba56b8ea9652b69874f2493e704bb0e84&000374

Or repait kit for £30, no idea what's included though.
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: Wazzzer on 25 July 2012, 20:15
repair kit will be what I described, no panel. Just takes a bit longer to fit
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: bobbarley on 25 July 2012, 20:25
Whilst at it, any idea if replacement speakers for the mk4 need to be full range, or composites?
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: Wazzzer on 25 July 2012, 22:07
standard ones are low/mid pass as you have the tweeter up high
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: bobbarley on 25 July 2012, 22:50
I imagine you need to replace the speaker and tweeter together then?
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: Wazzzer on 26 July 2012, 08:16
I just replaced the lower speaker. Make sure you get one that that's quite bassy though
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: bobbarley on 26 July 2012, 19:43
This is how we do it :afro:

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Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: Steve_PD on 26 July 2012, 20:00
You would prob need to rivet them on because I would think a bolt mite get in the way of the window

Bolts are absolutely fine and the kit usually comes with bolts.
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: mar_k on 26 July 2012, 20:32
This is the ebay kit I have used on my gti, I have replaced both sides using kits
from this supplier and find them really good,
They will email you a video to show how to fit it aswell, however its not hard.



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220685515016?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: bobbarley on 31 July 2012, 18:51
Bought and installed the kit from the guy you linked above.

Was really hard getting the last cable over the cam, managed it though.  Both sides slide, but it's seriously tough to get them sliding, is that normal?

Feels like the motor will br doing a hell of a job to get them to move  :undecided:
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: mar_k on 31 July 2012, 19:02
The last cable is tough, It will only go over on the correct slide,
And yes they are quite tough to slide up and down due to the tension,
Its fine when fitted though.  I have used 2 kits of him now and both have been great
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: bobbarley on 31 July 2012, 19:03
Cheers mate.  Need the weather to be good so that I can fit it back into the car.

All being well might consider doing the drivers side as a precautionary measure.
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: Wazzzer on 31 July 2012, 20:56
I did, and found it was just about to go too!
Title: Re: Window has dropped - Regulator questions
Post by: bobbarley on 11 August 2012, 17:33
All sorted.  Put it back together earlier and it works really well!  Makes a weird noise when it's going down though, sounds like the metal cable flexing about, works fine though  :smiley: