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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Leebob on 19 July 2012, 20:06
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205's or 195's?
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mine r 205/40/15 better with 205 then 195
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195/50/15's loads of choice and cheaper then 205's
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195/50/15's loads of choice and cheaper then 205'2
Currently on 205's and was thinking just the same as what you posted m8.Just wondered if people thought they were better or worse in any way as regards performance etc.Am i right in thinking they will fit the rims just as well as the 205's i have on now?
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I've tried both and prefer the 195's and like Wayne says there is a better choice of quality rubber at better prices than 205's.
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Currently on 205's and was thinking just the same as what you posted m8.Just wondered if people thought they were better or worse in any way as regards performance etc.Am i right in thinking they will fit the rims just as well as the 205's i have on now?
I switched mine from 205's to 195's and it was fine, no real difference in how it drove and they fit fine.
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I've just changed to 195/50/15 Uniroyal Rain Experts and they rock at £43 each.
They Did us proud in the rain at Castle Combe last week, in the wet.
Would recommend the change.
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Awesome.195's it is then.Cheers chaps :grin:
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I have 195/45/15s?
What difference will it make compared to 195/50?
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I've tried both and prefer the 195's and like Wayne says there is a better choice of quality rubber at better prices than 205's.
I agree...a little shorter on the gearing, a little tighter on the sidewall, and a little more adjustable on the 195s...they drive great on 195/50/15s.
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Might be just me but the 'turn in' seems slightly sharper on 195's
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Yeah my 195's also felt better on my last mk3.
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plus with 195's you can use spacers to fill the arches! (mine had 12mm spacers and didn't rub on 195's but did badly on 205's!)
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205/50/15 the bestttttt
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Depends on wheel width too....195 on a 9 inch wouldn't handle so good haha
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Bit of a revival but this thread seemed the most relevant after some searching on the topic.
I'm just about to start checking out some new rubber and was playing around with the tyre size calculator and wondered if anyone ran with 195/50/16?
Nobody ever seems to mention them (apart from Ess-Three as track tyres), from what I can see il gain a touch of space around the edges of my arches (I'm currently running 205/45/16 on 7j BBS RX's) which will allow for a bit more spacer poke and it'll also give me about 5mm ride height gain / arch gap loss which is welcomed tbh.
http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=205&aspect=45&diameter=16&wheelwidth=7&offset=38&width2=195&aspect2=50&diameter2=16&wheelwidth2=7&offset2=38&Submit=Submit
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Hmm, ok so I've just discovered that albeit a tiny increase in rolling radius it's enough to cripple the acceleration without dropping the FD. That'll be a big no then and my thoughts of snatching a tad more ride comfort and clearance blown out the window. :undecided:
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i'm running 195/55/15s. not sure if they're a little to fat though.. had 50s on before
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I know for sure they are too big, are they mk4 wheels by any chance?
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Hmm, ok so I've just discovered that albeit a tiny increase in rolling radius it's enough to cripple the acceleration without dropping the FD. That'll be a big no then and my thoughts of snatching a tad more ride comfort and clearance blown out the window. :undecided:
I run 195/50/16 as my road wheels too - Toyo T1-Rs.
I wanted a little more compliance in the sidewall, and a slightly narrower tyre too, as well as the option to fit super-stickies in the same size.
As you say, you need to drop a FD to keep the gearing...I went from a 3.94 to a 4.2 when I moved from 215/40/16s to 195/50/16s...but got exactly the results I was looking for :smiley:
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Ok cool, Il certainly bare it in mind for when the gearbox eventually comes out which probably won't be until after the new year realistically speaking.
I'm sure you've told me before but 3.94 is the standard O2A FD ratio isn't it and 4.2 was taken from a Passat box of some nature?
Apart from the narrower footprint and extra compliance were there any other pros or cons for this tyre choice, how was the speedo effected before and after the swap as from the what i've read on the tyre calculator it's very marginal yet you say the bigger FD is required?
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I'm sure you've told me before but 3.94 is the standard O2A FD ratio isn't it and 4.2 was taken from a Passat box of some nature?
3.68 is standard ABF.
3.3 standard VR6.
3.94 is available in the odd Passat 'box...and 4.2s like hens teeth!
That's twice I've changed the FD.
Apart from the narrower footprint and extra compliance were there any other pros or cons for this tyre choice, how was the speedo effected before and after the swap as from the what i've read on the tyre calculator it's very marginal yet you say the bigger FD is required?
Mainly, it was a change to a size I could get decent trackday rubber in.
Speedo has virtually no error now - according to the GPS it's spot on.
There is a noticable chance in MPH/1000 RPM changing the FD...and a noticable difference in true speed vs indicated speed changing the tyre size.
215/40/16s were right at the bottom end of the standard wheel gearing...whereas 195/50/16 are right up at the top.
As an example, 195/50/16 gives the same overall gearing in top on a 4.2 FD as 215/40/16 did on a 3.94 FD...but the ratios have changed too - it's now approx 20 MPH/1000RPM in 6th, vs the same in 5th before.