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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Chris. on 18 July 2012, 19:14

Title: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: Chris. on 18 July 2012, 19:14
Im ordering a few parts from the US.  Mainly a set of 82mm JE pistons.

HOwever, i tempted to buy more with their cheaper price of parts over there than here.

Im looking at the ARP headstud kits and ARP main studs.

First off, is a AGU block 10mm or 11mm headbolts?

Is it really worth the extra few quid (60$) to go for the studs over normal bolts?

Anyone any ideas?

Chris
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: Wazzzer on 18 July 2012, 20:47
From my Ford days it was said that the stud kit had a better pulling force on the head as the standard bolts stretch over time
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: Chris. on 18 July 2012, 22:52
Yeah, studs pull down better as only lateral tightening instead of a twist motion.  Can get: 82mm JE pistons, ARP main stud kit, ARP head studs for £580 posted.
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: moby on 19 July 2012, 13:22
In short no  :grin: ur prob no where near needing studs
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: scarr89 on 19 July 2012, 15:32
n00b question alert :  :laugh:

What is the big deal about replacing/uprating head studs/bolts/nuts? How many head studs and bolts are there holding the head on? Surely they do the job well enough? You would crazy amounts of pressure to force them off no?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: leigh_harty on 19 July 2012, 17:11
Wont studs help line the head more aswell?
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: scarr89 on 19 July 2012, 17:42
Wont studs help line the head more aswell?

What is wrong with a bolt to line up the head? I'm sure most manufacturers would make a straight bolt/stud wouldn't they?
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: leigh_harty on 19 July 2012, 18:14
Wont studs help line the head more aswell?

What is wrong with a bolt to line up the head? I'm sure most manufacturers would make a straight bolt/stud wouldn't they?

With studs already in the block it would be a case of plonk the head on and bolt it up

Using head bolts you have to line the head up perfect (there is some give in the HG), some heads have locators in them but my vr never so was a ball ache to line up, especially when it was just me holding the head and lining it up  :grin:
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: moby on 19 July 2012, 19:02
Wont studs help line the head more aswell?
ROFL AHAAJHHAHAAA woooo dat was too much lol me sry but if u think that then seriously LOL bolt or stud deres no play! its the same size bolt same size holes lol
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: leigh_harty on 19 July 2012, 19:18
Can i have the english version please?

And have you ever put on a head on your own?, next time i do im getting studs

IF you put down the HG then try to drop the head onto it without no studs its a ballache... maybe my previous point went abit south
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: moby on 19 July 2012, 20:34
But dats what the locating pins are there for! ROFL Have YOU put a head on before lol no...
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: leigh_harty on 19 July 2012, 21:30
Wont studs help line the head more aswell?

What is wrong with a bolt to line up the head? I'm sure most manufacturers would make a straight bolt/stud wouldn't they?

With studs already in the block it would be a case of plonk the head on and bolt it up

Using head bolts you have to line the head up perfect (there is some give in the HG), some heads have locators in them but my vr never so was a ball ache to line up, especially when it was just me holding the head and lining it up  :grin:

Like i said.... dropping a head onto studs is easier. Ive rebuilt my vr myself, skimmed my head myself.... Even learnt myself da inglish init
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 19 July 2012, 21:41
Wont studs help line the head more aswell?

What is wrong with a bolt to line up the head? I'm sure most manufacturers would make a straight bolt/stud wouldn't they?

With studs already in the block it would be a case of plonk the head on and bolt it up

Using head bolts you have to line the head up perfect (there is some give in the HG), some heads have locators in them but my vr never so was a ball ache to line up, especially when it was just me holding the head and lining it up  :grin:

Like i said.... dropping a head onto studs is easier. Ive rebuilt my vr myself, skimmed my head myself.... Even learnt myself da inglish init

watch out leigh he might bus a cap in ya ass :laugh:
Title: Re: Head Studs or Bolts?
Post by: Chris. on 19 July 2012, 22:00
Bloody hell, I leave you guys for less than 24hours and all hell breaks loose....innit.

Anyhow.  Think ill get the studs.  ONly a few quid more and far better than bolts.  Might aswell make the engine 'future proof'

Chris