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Title: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 17 July 2012, 23:54
Wot sort off bhp and tourque am I looking at be for I have to change rods and all the rest?? Eney help would be good
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 18 July 2012, 07:55
id say 300bhp 300lbft
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 18 July 2012, 10:27
Iv been reading the old posts  :grin: agu are good for 320 and 340 So thought I'd ask about aum
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: cullygti on 18 July 2012, 10:52
agu has the bigger ports and stronger internals than aum  :smiley:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 18 July 2012, 11:05
So 300 is my top out part Wots the best rods to get then??
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 18 July 2012, 11:24
http://www.intengineering.com/
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 18 July 2012, 11:39
So 144x20 is the rods I need only $399 so bout £250 that ay bad,, would I have to change the internals as wells the rods or can I just do the rods??
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 18 July 2012, 11:49
while your doing the rods you might as well clean it up, replace all gaskets, seals, bottom end bearings and oil pick up.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 18 July 2012, 11:58
So wot £££ am I looking at paying then?
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: scarr89 on 18 July 2012, 12:30
So wot £££ ££££ am I looking at paying then?

4 figures more like, maybe?  :undecided:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 18 July 2012, 12:50
f**k that then can wait I'll get nick to sort something out  :smiley:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: AaronGS on 18 July 2012, 18:58
Some people have run more power than that on the standard internals with no issues.
Mine previously ran at 350bhp for about 1k before the internals were up-rated.
As said before, likely into the thousands, especially if you are paying someone to do the work.
What mods you got planned to want to get stronger rods?
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 18 July 2012, 21:05
Some people have run more power than that on the standard internals with no issues.
Mine previously ran at 350bhp for about 1k before the internals were up-rated.
As said before, likely into the thousands, especially if you are paying someone to do the work.
What mods you got planned to want to get stronger rods?

yea but would you want to risk it?
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 18 July 2012, 22:16
I want to go gt-30
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: AaronGS on 18 July 2012, 22:44
Some people have run more power than that on the standard internals with no issues.
Mine previously ran at 350bhp for about 1k before the internals were up-rated.
As said before, likely into the thousands, especially if you are paying someone to do the work.
What mods you got planned to want to get stronger rods?

yea but would you want to risk it?

Personally, hell no. It would ruin the enjoyment, worrying about it going pop everytime you come on boost.

Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Chris. on 18 July 2012, 22:49
First off.  What turbo you going to run and what can you afford?
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 18 July 2012, 23:19
Will be running a k04 22 at 1st then if I want more will be going gt30, then poss forge engine will have bout 4k to play with
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Chris. on 18 July 2012, 23:23
You will probably be able to run a k04 on calibra injectors, VR6 MAF and a GOOD FMIC. 

Forged rods are £285 in the UK from backdraft.
Pistons are ok, but id change them personally,  better compression ration.  £380 shipped from US for JE's minus import tax.

Then supertech valvetrain.  Cheapest i can find without tappets is £680 from holland.

Theres nothing cheap about building a reliable engine for big power.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 18 July 2012, 23:26
The set up I have got to go on car is
K04
S3 injecters
3"dp + dc
Ths fmic
Walbro fuel pump
V3 manni
Vr6 maf
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: jamie1989 on 18 July 2012, 23:29
Feckin hell!
Ko3s FTW lol

I thought tobys was mental this whole gt30 and keeping the thing running safely is mental!

My mate tells me his jap civic with a b18 will take 400bhp allday with a nice turbo strapped to it. Insane power.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Chris. on 18 July 2012, 23:32
k04 would be on limit of rods, but so could a well tuned k03s.  Mine was 297lbft and had to pull the torque.

Any good mapper can work around that.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 18 July 2012, 23:40
Rtech are mapping it, should be done by Xmas hope it will be, out of a k04 I'm hopeing for 300bhp and around the 280/290 fpt that's y I was asking about the rods
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: cullygti on 18 July 2012, 23:42
well when it goes pop you will then know you got to change them  :lipsrsealed:  :grin:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 18 July 2012, 23:49
But if it went pop wot else would brake??
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Chris. on 18 July 2012, 23:50
Lol,  R-tech wont push the stock rods.  Some go earlier than 300lbft its just a decent area to say.


Dont think you will see 300bhp though.  Im reckoning 280bhp tops.  Get a relentless manifold too.  Huge gains.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 18 July 2012, 23:59
That's wot the v3 is its the new 1 thay brought out  :grin:
It's the same set up as Toby had on his, but if I don't get 300 I'll cry like a big girl,
That's when I'll do loads of over time and gt30 the thing
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 19 July 2012, 00:52
Its all about the agu ko3s.....useable 2wd powwa
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: moby on 19 July 2012, 13:20
K03s crew FTMFW sick!
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 19 July 2012, 13:23
I am adament I am not going over K03s, too much to go wrong and too much money if it does....
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: jamie1989 on 19 July 2012, 13:30
Im really looking foward pushing my k03s   :lipsrsealed:
But your right, big turbo or k04 you need deep pockets.

I wonder whether a really good well specced k03s give a k04 a run for its money anyways as they have next to no lag?  Im not saying it will beat a k04 but not behind by much i mean?  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 19 July 2012, 13:54
depends which K04  :wink:

Cant wait to get my K03s finished too  :cool:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 19 July 2012, 14:36
Im really looking foward pushing my k03s   :lipsrsealed:
But your right, big turbo or k04 you need deep pockets.

I wonder whether a really good well specced k03s give a k04 a run for its money anyways as they have next to no lag?  Im not saying it will beat a k04 but not behind by much i mean?  :lipsrsealed:

agu ko3s would be gone while the ko4 would struggle for traction
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: moby on 19 July 2012, 15:26
Im really looking foward pushing my k03s   :lipsrsealed:
But your right, big turbo or k04 you need deep pockets.

I wonder whether a really good well specced k03s give a k04 a run for its money anyways as they have next to no lag?  Im not saying it will beat a k04 but not behind by much i mean?  :lipsrsealed:

agu ko3s would be gone while the ko4 would struggle for traction

Jeezus! K03s is ANIMAL! All k04 and big turbo boys should upgrade to k03s - REVELATIONS!  :grin:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 19 July 2012, 17:20
Im really looking foward pushing my k03s   :lipsrsealed:
But your right, big turbo or k04 you need deep pockets.

I wonder whether a really good well specced k03s give a k04 a run for its money anyways as they have next to no lag?  Im not saying it will beat a k04 but not behind by much i mean?  :lipsrsealed:

agu ko3s would be gone while the ko4 would struggle for traction

Jeezus! K03s is ANIMAL! All k04 and big turbo boys should upgrade to k03s - REVELATIONS!  :grin:

who said is animal???? :laugh: :laugh: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 19 July 2012, 17:27
K03s are for pussys that don't want power haha
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: cullygti on 19 July 2012, 17:33
f**king meow  :grin:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 19 July 2012, 17:44
f**king meow  :grin:
Hahaa you want some milk
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: cullygti on 19 July 2012, 17:46
keep your milk to your self mate  :grin:  :grin:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 19 July 2012, 17:57
f**king meow  :grin:
Hahaa you want some milk

filth  :sick:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: harlemex on 19 July 2012, 18:30
I got a ko3s.




150hp  :embarassed:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 19 July 2012, 19:52
Maybe someone who has a high end K03s and someone else with a K04 can settle this
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: AaronGS on 19 July 2012, 19:56
Maybe someone who has a high end K03s and someone else with a K04 can settle this

Only to be pipped at the post by a GT28 or 30...  :evil: :grin:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: cullygti on 19 July 2012, 20:05
or get thrashed by this  :grin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj4KioIPPxY
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 19 July 2012, 20:06
You must be silly run a massive turbo on a 2wd car. why??? 1st spin 2nd spin 3rd spin great waste of £5k
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 19 July 2012, 20:16
You must be silly run a massive turbo on a 2wd car. why??? 1st spin 2nd spin 3rd spin great waste of £5k

Or have shares in a tyre company  :grin:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: jonrandom on 19 July 2012, 20:20
You must be silly run a massive turbo on a 2wd car. why??? 1st spin 2nd spin 3rd spin great waste of £5k

Build the engine it can always be put into something else or get a decent electronic boost controller and you can set it to run lower boost or gradual boost in lower gears.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: jonrandom on 19 July 2012, 20:21
Ive read my EBC can do it but god knows how the manual is about a inch thick!  :grin:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: moby on 19 July 2012, 20:39
You must be silly run a massive turbo on a 2wd car. why??? 1st spin 2nd spin 3rd spin great waste of £5k

LOL this guy  :grin:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: AaronGS on 19 July 2012, 20:46
Or just drive it properly? An LSD helps too.  :evil:
I don't get wheel spin unless its really wet or icy. The snow is fun!  :wink: :grin:
I do go through tyres a bit quicker than the last car (stage 2 ibiza cupra). A set of eagle f1s last about 15-20k miles (mix of motorway and backroads).  
I reckon a well tuned k03s or k04 is just as fun though, especially on the road. Personally I would like a ride ina  k04 car to compare with. thats the route I would probably go if I were do do it now.

Or save the £££ and get an RS4. Had a ride in one and oh my word, they are mental. Made mine seem rather slow and inept!
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 19 July 2012, 21:01
You must be silly run a massive turbo on a 2wd car. why??? 1st spin 2nd spin 3rd spin great waste of £5k

LOL this guy  :grin:

LOL at me you the one who thinks fitting an air broke your gearbox. lmfao. pics of your car moby
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: LazyLunatic on 19 July 2012, 21:07
My mates 265bhp BAM S3 8L recently bent a rod, not sure on torque figure but it does happen!

I'm building a K03s hybrid and I'm debating on uprating rods. I'll be waiting til next summer to do it all though, will need to work the summer to pay for it!

Don't be fooled by a tuned K03s, my mates S3 won't keep up! Be interesting to see how far kells would pull on me.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Chris. on 19 July 2012, 22:10
AGU k03s FTW when you tune it to know what to do.

248bhp and 275lbft torque from 4400rpm to redline. - weapon

Sure this is 225bhp 0-60 with poo gearchange. (someone wanted to see what redlines were)
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/carsey2006/?action=view&current=0-60mph.mp4

No wheelspin either.


Here it is giving it a bit stick. ON my private farm track :D

http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/carsey2006/?action=view&current=561d0a5c.mp4

Really is quick enough to see of 95% of cars you come across on the road.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: jamie1989 on 19 July 2012, 22:23
 :laugh: I need bigger brakes
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 19 July 2012, 22:54
Seems to go well,
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: moby on 19 July 2012, 23:03
You must be silly run a massive turbo on a 2wd car. why??? 1st spin 2nd spin 3rd spin great waste of £5k

There's really no cure to stupidity lol bro if big turbo sucks then guess what no one would be using them!
Here's a little basic info for ya a big turbo takes more to spool they call this lagg! When your in first gear there ain't enough boost to spool the dam thing to even half it's peak boost so guess what no wheel spin! You obviously reckon like others here dat you have 500bhp on 1st gear ROFL... No. That lagg is good cause it's like gear limited boost like 6 psi in 1st 12 psi in 2nd 20 psi in 3rd cause it's bout exhaust gasses days why ur dump valve ain't as loud revving on idle as loaded in gear! Plus wid a big turbo the boost is gonna build more progressively and not spike the crap like a dinky k03 or k04

Ooo oooo too soon junior!
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 19 July 2012, 23:07
yo blad lisen yea let c sum pic of ur beast innt. ya get me.

where did i say big turbos suck? i said in a fwd car there pointless as its wasted power. learn to read yea.



oh and write

please mate come on aint it time for bed youve got school tomorrow.

Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: jamie1989 on 19 July 2012, 23:13
LOL
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Chris. on 19 July 2012, 23:27
Definitely hit peak boost in every gear.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 19 July 2012, 23:29
Read 1st 6psi 2nd 12psi and then 3rd 20psi think its past both ur bed times hahahaha
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: moby on 19 July 2012, 23:35
yo blad lisen yea let c sum pic of ur beast innt. ya get me.

where did i say big turbos suck? i said in a fwd car there pointless as its wasted power. learn to read yea.



oh and write

wow 6psi in first then 20psi in second your telling me that wouldnt spin your wheels please mate come on aint it time for bed youve got school tomorrow.



Learn to read yo! Too much boost in your mighty k03s? It dont say 20 psi in second ROFL ay ay guess wat it aint going to hit peak boost in first gear on a big turbo so u think a puny 1.8 is going to have enough load to spool a gt35 to 2 bar boost in first gear? ROFL dis guy lol hes a funny guy! any1 dat has even a bloody head on their shoulders will know it will not make peak boost in every gear on a big turbo unless your looking at peaking 2 psi ooo ooo danger to manifold!
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Chris. on 19 July 2012, 23:40
Dare bet it would.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 19 July 2012, 23:40
yo blad lisen yea let c sum pic of ur beast innt. ya get me.

where did i say big turbos suck? i said in a fwd car there pointless as its wasted power. learn to read yea.



oh and write

wow 6psi in first then 20psi in second your telling me that wouldnt spin your wheels please mate come on aint it time for bed youve got school tomorrow.



Learn to read yo! Too much boost in your mighty k03s? It dont say 20 psi in second ROFL ay ay guess wat it aint going to hit peak boost in first gear on a big turbo so u think a puny 1.8 is going to have enough load to spool a gt35 to 2 bar boost in first gear? ROFL dis guy lol hes a funny guy! any1 dat has even a bloody head on their shoulders will know it will not make peak boost in every gear on a big turbo unless your looking at peaking 2 psi ooo ooo danger to manifold!


mate if you wrote it in ENGLISH then i could read it properly, i cant understand a thing you've said.

oh btw did you fix your gearbox that the air filter broke? PMSL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Troll
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: moby on 19 July 2012, 23:44
Dare bet it would.
Bro u ain't got a clue ROFL so u think a 1.8 would make 2 bars of boost on a gt35 or larger in first gear. If deres any tuners on here they would set things straight.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 19 July 2012, 23:50
you need stop ROFLing you mum will go mad you've got school tomorrow.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: moby on 20 July 2012, 00:02
you need stop ROFLing you mum will go mad you've got school tomorrow.

Ur talking to me bout being independent umm let's see I have me own place ur still at uni borrowing money and going into more debt FAIL LOL wats the matter ur mother never taught u to cook and ur take home crap food ain't good today so ur taking it out on others lol I pity u fool school this try and stay focused and follow the topic here or u will fail here like u do in uni and life so while I ROFL it's cos I'm ROFLing at you
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Chris. on 20 July 2012, 00:03
Probably got a bit more a clue than you.

English langauge being one of them to begin with.
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Chris. on 20 July 2012, 00:28
Surely depends on the .AR of the turbo in question too. ;)
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: moby on 20 July 2012, 00:30
I will speak how I want I aint a boy in uni LOL jokers
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: jamie1989 on 20 July 2012, 07:23
I like moby's sig  :grin:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Rhyso on 20 July 2012, 08:08
I will speak how I want I aint a boy in uni LOL jokers

This isn't some youth club either.  Try using proper English please; it makes it easier and nicer for everyone  :smiley:

Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: turbokid23 on 20 July 2012, 09:46
LeTs get ready to rumble hahaha you people are jokers,
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Chris. on 20 July 2012, 10:03
I will speak how I want I aint a boy in uni LOL jokers

This isn't some youth club either.  Try using proper English please; it makes it easier and nicer for everyone  :smiley:



If only I could high 5 you right now!  Epic!
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: moby on 20 July 2012, 10:40
O no if it aint mr. My rear antirollbar made me crash! dude its a front wheel drive on a public road with bout 200bhp not 600 on a rear wheel LOL K03s squad to the rescue yo! High five .if u look at youtube vids then u will see theres no way it make peakboost like 2bar in first gear ROFL like saying our cars make max power on first gear it dont
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 20 July 2012, 10:41
Its become like fast and the furious on here
waddup dawg  :laugh:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: jamie1989 on 20 July 2012, 10:51
Moby has anger management issues by the sounds of it.
Calm down mate  :cool: Temper tandrums are not needed here  :grin:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 20 July 2012, 11:14
Everyone has their own opinions and thats a good thing, thats why its a forum and not just a list of mods and guides.

respect everyone elses opinions even if you dont agree with them,  but dont let it get out of hand or a mod will just lock the thread

Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 20 July 2012, 11:16
moby dick...........







good read
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: cullygti on 20 July 2012, 12:29
O no if it aint mr. My rear antirollbar made me crash! dude its a front wheel drive on a public road with bout 200bhp not 600 on a rear wheel LOL K03s squad to the rescue yo! High five .if u look at youtube vids then u will see theres no way it make peakboost like 2bar in first gear ROFL like saying our cars make max power on first gear it dont

bit harsh saying stuff like that when the guy could of lost his life mate be it down to his anti roll bar or not when someone has a bad accident and could of died its not summat you ever joke about  :angry:  :sick:

and just to let you know only me and dunndeal do the b!tching on here   :kiss:  :grin:

Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 20 July 2012, 12:33
O no if it aint mr. My rear antirollbar made me crash! dude its a front wheel drive on a public road with bout 200bhp not 600 on a rear wheel LOL K03s squad to the rescue yo! High five .if u look at youtube vids then u will see theres no way it make peakboost like 2bar in first gear ROFL like saying our cars make max power on first gear it dont

bit harsh saying stuff like that when the guy could of lost his life mate be it down to his anti roll bar or not when someone has a bad accident and could of died its not summat you ever joke about  :angry:  :sick:

and just to let you know only me and dunndeal do the b!tching on here   :kiss:  :grin:


 :kiss: lol
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: barrym381 on 20 July 2012, 12:38
O no if it aint mr. My rear antirollbar made me crash! dude its a front wheel drive on a public road with bout 200bhp not 600 on a rear wheel LOL K03s squad to the rescue yo! High five .if u look at youtube vids then u will see theres no way it make peakboost like 2bar in first gear ROFL like saying our cars make max power on first gear it dont

bit harsh saying stuff like that when the guy could of lost his life mate be it down to his anti roll bar or not when someone has a bad accident and could of died its not summat you ever joke about  :angry:  :sick:

and just to let you know only me and dunndeal do the b!tching on here   :kiss:  :grin:


:grin: :grin: pair of handbag swingers  :grin:
Title: Re: AUM limits
Post by: cullygti on 20 July 2012, 12:48
barry your only jealous cos we wont let you in our gang  :grin: