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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: robw09 on 01 July 2012, 00:14

Title: Door Trim
Post by: robw09 on 01 July 2012, 00:14
Hi guys, need some advice on how to remove the centre door trim strips from a recently purchased Mk2 8v GTi 3 door.  Towards the rear of the car (open door side) the trim has lifted, but is fairly solid.  I want to take it off and put back on.  So, I need some advice on how to remove and then how to replace and reseal it.  As I don't want to ruin anything by going in hamfisted!

Cheers

Rob
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: Thom89 on 01 July 2012, 00:36
I take it you're talking about the Rub strips on the exterior of the doors lower edge?
The mouding simply pulls off, one clip at a time, you will need to replace the little rubber caps that fit into the holes on the door, these caps are available from the Dealers, or VW Heritage
Re using the old damaged caps will result in the moulding coming adrift again after a short while

Thom
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: X4MGS on 01 July 2012, 01:08
I take it you're talking about the Rub strips on the exterior of the doors lower edge?
The mouding simply pulls off, one clip at a time, you will need to replace the little rubber caps that fit into the holes on the door, these caps are available from the Dealers, or VW Heritage
Re using the old damaged caps will result in the moulding coming adrift again after a short while

Thom

You can do it Thom's way BUT You Can Bust the middle clip on the trim by doing it that way....

I would "suggest" the "safest" way of doing it is from the inside out....

Take off the door trim and knock the clips out from the inside with a hammer handle... (door trim is a few screws and the handle surround which slides off & job done) If you do do it this way mind and put back the plastic membrane to stop ruining your door cards!!!

I've learnt this the hard way!!! after breaking a couple of trim pieces...
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: robw09 on 01 July 2012, 09:47
I was talking about the lower centre door trim...not sure on the technical name of it.

I had trying pulling it but i think the previous owner has used some sort of silicone to try an stick it.

I will take door card off and have a look.  What clips do I need from VW Heritage?
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: Thom89 on 01 July 2012, 10:14
I was talking about the lower centre door trim...not sure on the technical name of it.

I had trying pulling it but i think the previous owner has used some sort of silicone to try an stick it.

I will take door card off and have a look.  What clips do I need from VW Heritage?

Put up a pic of the trim in question, to eliminate confusion...

Assuming we are talking of the rubstrip that runs the length of the door, there is no point trying from the inside of the door, if its been bonded from the outside, in fact, pushing on the clips from the inside, is more likely to damage them! these mouldings are designed to be gently prized off from the outside, the rubber caps are a sacrificial item that are cheap and easy to replace...
Carefully run a decorators paint scraper behind the moulding to slice through any silicone sealer, you'll "feel" the moulding start to pop off its clips...
Once removed, post up a pic of the back of the moulding, and the rubber caps, as there are a couple of variations of these clips, we can look and see which clips you require from Heritage

Thom
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: robw09 on 02 July 2012, 21:19
Close Up
(http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg523/robw09/P1000482.jpg)

Wide View
(http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg523/robw09/P1000481.jpg)

Looks like someone has put some sort of mastic or a similar product...
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: Gambit on 03 July 2012, 13:54
yep it does indeed, there is no sealent used when fitting, so id say the clips are broke on the back of the trim & hence they just tried to stick it to the car!
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: robw09 on 03 July 2012, 18:21
so then, what approach should i take to remove it?  And can you tell what clips I will need to put it back on?

don't want to ruin it!

cheers
rob
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: Thom89 on 03 July 2012, 18:27
As already said, just gently prize it off, clips will unclip, and adhesive can be sliced through with a paint scraper...

Thom
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: robw09 on 04 July 2012, 08:37
Ok, sounds like that is something I can do, gently, gently....and then to put back on I presume i just clear the adhesive from the trim and door and it just clips back on from the outside?

I guess from your previous reply, Thom, I cannot order the clips until I know for definite which ones they are (Mine is a 1990)?  Will it just be new clips or some sort of adhesive tape as well?

Thanks for help so far
Rob

http://www.vwheritage.com/vw_spares_Trim-Clip-Side-moulding-Golf-Mk2-90-spec-18-reqd_act_shop.product_pID_50672923_lang_EN_country_GB.htm?crumbStartPage=3&crumbStartRow=42
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: oakgreener on 04 July 2012, 12:45
There's no adhesive and the ones in your link are fine. You also need the ones that fit into the door, they sometimes are missing.
These ones. :smiley: :smiley: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-MK2-Golf-GTI-Genuine-OEM-Side-Trim-Clips-Grommets-10-Pack-BRAND-NEW-/280870698390?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item416532bd96#ht_3976wt_962
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: robw09 on 04 July 2012, 14:27
Huraaahhh, it is off after some tugging and "gentle" force.  It is those clips from previous post.  I only need three clips and three of the rubber housing that fit in the door holes.

Next Jobs...
Change 1 dipped beam headlight as has a crack in - doddle
Change 1 spot as frosted - doddle
Change the led on the instrument panel for the main beam - not looking forward to!!!

and at some point change front brakes to 16v set-up.

Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: X4MGS on 04 July 2012, 14:43
Huraaahhh, it is off after some tugging and "gentle" force.  It is those clips from previous post.  I only need three clips and three of the rubber housing that fit in the door holes.

Change the led on the instrument panel for the main beam - not looking forward to!!!


Cool...

RE LED's read this... http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=143227.0

Yours will be slightly different as the ones in this thread are 2 pin clocks and yours should be 1 pin...

Principle is the same...
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: robw09 on 04 July 2012, 17:11
Good god! That looks tricky.....or am i being a wuss!?
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: X4MGS on 04 July 2012, 19:20
Wuss!

Couple of screwdrivers and DON'T Force anything!!
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: Thom89 on 04 July 2012, 20:01
Huraaahhh, it is off after some tugging and "gentle" force.  It is those clips from previous post.  I only need three clips and three of the rubber housing that fit in the door holes.




Make sure you fit all new clips to the moulding, and all new caps inserted into the door, no matter how good the old ones look!

Tip,  To fit everything properly, wash the rubber caps in warm soapy water, to get rid of release agent used in manufacture, (this will allow the cap to grip the edge of the hole better) let them dry, and push them home into the holes on the door...
Then fit the new white clips to the door moulding, once done, apply a tiny amount of washing up liquid to your finger tips, and very lightly coat the end of the white clips, at the point that they push into the rubber caps... this will stop white clips tearing the caps, or pushing them through to the inside of the door, which is a real pain!
To fix the moulding to the door, simply push it into position, any clips that haven't seated properly, can be sorted with a sharp slap with the palm of your hand...

Thom
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: robw09 on 04 July 2012, 21:41
Ok Thom.  Do you know where I get the caps from?  I could only find the clips on VW heritage.

BR
Rob
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: Thom89 on 04 July 2012, 21:57
Our very own Ken has some on Ebay, and as far as I know, the dealers still carry them...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-MK2-Golf-GTI-Genuine-OEM-Side-Trim-Clips-Grommets-10-Pack-BRAND-NEW-/280870698390?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item416532bd96#ht_3935wt_962

Thom
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: X4MGS on 04 July 2012, 22:01
Our very own Ken has some on Ebay, and as far as I know, the dealers still carry them...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-MK2-Golf-GTI-Genuine-OEM-Side-Trim-Clips-Grommets-10-Pack-BRAND-NEW-/280870698390?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item416532bd96#ht_3935wt_962

Thom

Thanks Thom....

Didn't want to post my own link...

But Yes I do have them in stock and can ship them out tomorrow, so you should have them for the weekend...
Title: Re: Door Trim
Post by: robw09 on 04 July 2012, 23:01
I'll check in with dealer tomorrow and see if they have any in stock, if not I shall order some from Ken.

Thanks
Rob