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Title: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Thom89 on 21 June 2012, 17:57
Right, long overdue in my opinion, but a very important, and emotive subject...
PLEASE, No b!tching, fighting, scratching, or rooking, this is a friendly 'point of view" discussion, in the best Mk2 section, on the best VW Forum anywhere on the net, lets not lower ourselves... any sign of any "Popcorn" and it gets pulled!

I have my own opinions, based on being in the Motortrade for many years, and have a broad knowledge and hands on experience of many different Marques of cars, where parts supply situation is a lot more difficult than MK2 Golfs, yet nowhere near as fraught!

Hopefully decent feedback, will allow buyers and sellers some sort of guide, to how much items are worth, and what to pay, which hopefully helps everyone out, maybe list items you've recently bought/sold and state whether you were happy with the price you paid, or sold at

Also parts that are genuinely rare, and not just Ebay rare!  VW Motorsport gear knobs, and Recaro's spring to mind as rare, and not a set of MK2 floormats...

Thom

Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Mr Blue on 21 June 2012, 18:09
Sorry can't share what I know is rare. The place will be flooded with the bits over night  :grin:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: clipperjay on 21 June 2012, 18:10
Buying
Bought Broken fog light ebay          £20.00
Starter motor FREE
Alternator FREE
Brake servo & Master cylinder           £95.00
Wishbones ball joints tie rod ends    £82.00
MK2 Bumper rust free                    £80.00
Letherette gear gaiter GTI FREE

Sold

One OEM brand new unused never fitted last one from Germany door side trim for Rallye £100.00 chucked in a rear QTR one for free!
One CV boot inner £10.00 New old stock
Injector loom carrier £25.00 New old stock
ISV 16V £50.00 tested and working!
Rallye projectors New old stock £80.00 pair
Servo LHD G60 or Rallye    £70.00

Tip of the ice burger!  :grin:

Rattling cages are we Thom  :lipsrsealed:
  
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: X4MGS on 21 June 2012, 18:14
Interesting thread... Lets see what happens  :undecided:

I've just bought this - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130706932570

I've never seen one listed before and just had to have it... Paid £150.00 which includes shipping from Norway.

Also Bought a Genuine Hella US Spec tailgate spoiler with 3rd brake light... Paid £150.00 ish form a guy in the states from the Vortex Forum...

"Rare" can be a very subjective word when it comes to MK2 parts...

Some item are rare for a number of reason's....

1, They never sold when new due to the fact that they were rubbish when 1st released - but now are rare & just as useless....
2, Due to the lack of supply of certain items that get easily broken & then become desirable as people need them to finish a car to a certain standard...
3, Were a very expensive option when new (Like - Head Light Adjusters, Headlight Washers, Electric Sunroof Motor & Switch, Electric Mirrors etc).

Ebay rare is another matter completely....
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Thom89 on 21 June 2012, 18:17


Rattling cages are we Thom  :lipsrsealed:
  

Yes and No, unless its discussed, things will be left to fester, just looking for open, honest, but civilized debate! Nothing else :cool:

Thom
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: clipperjay on 21 June 2012, 18:26
Okay
I've been hoarding Rallye parts and one day I thought someone needs these Hell I'm not going to own another one!
Like today made a new friend gave him a brand new electric wing mirror for his Rallye never planned to, but we chatted for two hours drinking tea and had a good time comparing notes! No point in hoarding stuff that someone can use!
I actually don't price things up until I meet them. If I dont like them they arent going to like my prices. If they are earnest and take time to come and see me for the bits, I give good sh*it away  :smiley:
What goes around comes around Karma's a biatch at some point it sees you right for wrong!
I've gotten so many bits free from friends it should be returned back in some form?
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: JC on 21 June 2012, 18:59
sod parts,

what about rare cars and selling them on at a profit  :lipsrsealed:

 :laugh:

 :grin:

 :kiss:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: danny_p on 21 June 2012, 19:32
i veiw a genuinly rare part as one that you can't buy  unless your really lucky.  usally the best you can hope for is being abel to borrow one to make a copy from  price of borrowing is usualy one of the copys.

thats said rallye windscreens are getting rare ish
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Loynes on 21 June 2012, 21:36
Triumph mk2 gt6 bits are rare, golf stuff is still out there.  This should be called I dont want to pay for stuff,  if you own a sweet rallye and the only thing that wrong with it is duff door panel £250 is cheap.  My golf is magic I do tip runs its take the dog out, but if I need a roof lining and it 300 and I have he money it's still cheap motoring. Buy a headlight for a modern car, you could rebuild your golf, with a recaro interior!
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: theclash on 21 June 2012, 22:42
I know where there's a bumper with headlight washers on I'm tempted to go and get it not for me but to sell on ......but what are these things worth
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Mr Blue on 22 June 2012, 00:32
bumper jets were about £40 each from vw. They stopped selling one side as a numpty ordered too many of one side thinking they were the same.

 :grin: Greed fail.
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: X4MGS on 22 June 2012, 00:43
I know where there's a bumper with headlight washers on I'm tempted to go and get it not for me but to sell on ......but what are these things worth

I bought a car just to get the full Headlight washer set up... Still have the set up just cant bring my self to drill the holes to fit them... I may sell them but still can't make my mind up...

Bear in mind if you want a full & proper set you need much more than just the washer jets... You need the the special 8Ltr washer bottle, extra large pump, the wiring and relay to do it...
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Santiago on 22 June 2012, 08:57
^^ LOL at the sales ad in this thread!
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: rob.043 on 22 June 2012, 09:13
Generally I dont think 2nd hand parts are expensive for a mk2.

There are plenty of silly prices out there (im thinking gear knobs and badges on ebay), and there must be eager chaps out there buying these things as they want a very show'y car, and want to spend their disposable cash on it.

However, for the more discerning Golf enthusiast, who wants to run a car on a tighter budget, I think the stuff you need to keep a smart car can be found at sensible money.

As such I see two strains of mk2 owner, generalised into something like:

No1. the more affluent show car entusiast (potentially more affluent, or at least willing to sink a greater percentage of their income into the car).

No2. VW/Golf enthusiast looking to economically run an ageing performance hatch.

I think the regularly required new parts you can buy, shocks,wishbones,brakes etc. encourage the No2 owners with their sensible prices. These parts needed to extend the service life of a Golf seem well priced to me. Following from this are the second hand scrappy/breakers, tuned into the same price band, offering no longer available body and interior parts at sensible prices.  

On the flip side, the No1 owners promote the sale of the £150 gear knob, and the £250 neuspeed roll bar etc. However this is not without benefits to the No2 owner, who instead of spending £2000 having a 1.8t conversion, can buy the unwanted 1.8l block for £50 when the original wears out.
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: clipperjay on 22 June 2012, 10:11
bumper jets were about £40 each from vw. They stopped selling one side as a numpty ordered too many of one side thinking they were the same.

 :grin: Greed fail.
:laugh: :laugh: :rolleyes:

I know you are a horder fess up show us what you have LOL!  :wink:
Vw pickers  :grin:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: memt on 22 June 2012, 10:18
BBS center caps. That is all.
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Horney on 22 June 2012, 10:22
BBS center caps. That is all.

They're not really MK2 golf specific are they?

Stuff that is hard to get hold of is few and far between, I've never struggled to get a bit for my car when I've needed it. Some stuff will become sort afteras originals wear out and new/copy replacements aren't available. Head linings spring to mind, I was stoopid and hacked mine out and threw it away not thinking I could have got a few £££ for it on eBay.

Nick
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: memt on 22 June 2012, 10:44
Yeah I guess you're right. Just can't understand why 4 bits of plastic cost over £40 on eBay.
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: logeyboy on 22 June 2012, 11:01
BBS center caps. That is all.

Can I have one?

 :wink:

Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: dragonfly on 22 June 2012, 11:02
There are a few so called enthusiasts who just rip owners off for there own greedy gain.  Some proper mickey mouse prices as well.  :sad:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: lemski on 22 June 2012, 11:03
Every time I sell somats its not very expensive. I like to keep mk2 people motoring. When I was looking for a mk2 kr loom for mine I saw one on ebay, but as it got toi 92quid I stopped bidding as that's ridicules price for some wires.

Now when my mae wanted four g60 arches I had, I sold em to him for 80quid. And a leather rear bench for 50. Sold some g60 leather front seats for 35 and delivered em to the bloke in manchester. Solf a load of genuine buimpers n such for 30quid to another mate. Its not like am ever going to use em so why sell them for stupid prices.
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Mr Blue on 22 June 2012, 11:08
:laugh: :laugh: :rolleyes:

I know you are a horder fess up show us what you have LOL!  :wink:
Vw pickers  :grin:

bahaha it wasn't me though! I saw the headlamp jets in stock (a nice even number for both sides) went to vw the following week after getting endless pm's about the jets and saw that one side was left in stock. Someone blatantly ordered lots thinking they were the same for left and right. They come up on the bay for £200-£300 when they are (were) 40 each from vw!  :grin:

I do have a set of unpainted big bumper skins (genuine) that I paid £30. wrapped in the loft :cool:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: clipperjay on 22 June 2012, 11:21
 :laugh:

TBF everything thats considered factory optional extra or rare is not that great?
For instance Vortex stuff looks odd and out of place the material is allways glossy compared to the stock plastic?
Motor sport stuff looks really odd on a bog standard GTI
Stuff like speaker pods and leather interiors weigh the whole car down ED1 seats with full electric motors weighs about 30Kg each GTI's are supoosed to be quick how can it be quick if its heavy?
Saw Rallye seats go for 2K gob smacked!
Worst thing I saw was a blue motor sport grill and badge on a 8Ver the car was nice, but why try and make it look like a limited?
It kind of reminds me of chaps who buy Farrari jackets and then drive an Escort?
A bit too critical? Yeah hence I don't bother anymore with what people stick on there cars.
Function without purpose is useless, Scene points is not a function or purpose!   
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: logeyboy on 22 June 2012, 11:28
:laugh: :laugh: :rolleyes:

I know you are a horder fess up show us what you have LOL!  :wink:
Vw pickers  :grin:

bahaha it wasn't me though! I saw the headlamp jets in stock (a nice even number for both sides) went to vw the following week after getting endless pm's about the jets and saw that one side was left in stock. Someone blatantly ordered lots thinking they were the same for left and right. They come up on the bay for £200-£300 when they are (were) 40 each from vw!  :grin:

I do have a set of unpainted big bumper skins (genuine) that I paid £30. wrapped in the loft :cool:

Sell them to me, or put them on your car and sell me your current ones...  :wink:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Organisys on 22 June 2012, 12:38
Sun roof seals a problem?

G60 Arch Trims. Grrr Expensive for no good reason.

G60 / Rallye Screens - A Hassle, but not expensive.

Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: dadrathers on 22 June 2012, 21:34
Most mechanical parts you can get good OE qualtiy pattern parts. It is the items such as trims that are only ever OEM/VW that are frustrating. Recently replaced the cill trim for the right side but the left side is not available. Nor are the door trims (5 door - I know!)
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Mr Blue on 22 June 2012, 22:03
Give it a year and the bumpers will be in stock along with the side trims.
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: clipperjay on 22 June 2012, 22:05
Give it a year and the bumpers will be in stock along with the side trims.

True golf balls are only £18 thats one they should have not brought back  :laugh:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: danny_p on 23 June 2012, 11:08
Sun roof seals a problem?

G60 Arch Trims. Grrr Expensive for no good reason.

G60 / Rallye Screens - A Hassle, but not expensive.



rallye screens  -   awhile back we needed to source 2 of them and nasty possoblity of needing a 3rd.    we had one genuine screen but decided not to use it and ended up haveing a run of 10 made with quick clear and 10 without.   got 2 of them left  :shocked:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: tomp on 23 June 2012, 19:47

Also parts that are genuinely rare, and not just Ebay rare!  VW Motorsport gear knobs, and Recaro's spring to mind as rare, and not a set of MK2 floormats...

Thom



I've had a VW Motorsport Gear knob on my mk2 16v Turbo for about 15 years, is it really rare then?
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Thom89 on 23 June 2012, 22:09

Also parts that are genuinely rare, and not just Ebay rare!  VW Motorsport gear knobs, and Recaro's spring to mind as rare, and not a set of MK2 floormats...

Thom



I've had a VW Motorsport Gear knob on my mk2 16v Turbo for about 15 years, is it really rare then?

I'll give you a tenner for it, and not a penny more :lipsrsealed:

Thom
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: tomp on 23 June 2012, 22:14

Also parts that are genuinely rare, and not just Ebay rare!  VW Motorsport gear knobs, and Recaro's spring to mind as rare, and not a set of MK2 floormats...

Thom



I've had a VW Motorsport Gear knob on my mk2 16v Turbo for about 15 years, is it really rare then?

I'll give you a tenner for it, and not a penny more :lipsrsealed:

Thom

Its not for sale, really worth a tenner though?  :cool:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: clipperjay on 23 June 2012, 22:44
I can better that £9 forum discount  :laugh:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: tomp on 23 June 2012, 22:57
How is that better??   :grin:

Just out of interest, what would it be worth? As I said its not for sale, I can't actually remember what I paid for it, it was so long ago!!!

Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Thom89 on 23 June 2012, 23:57
How is that better??   :grin:

Just out of interest, what would it be worth? As I said its not for sale, I can't actually remember what I paid for it, it was so long ago!!!



Just had a shufty round the net, and cant really find anything relevant, keep an eye on ebay!

Thom
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: tomp on 24 June 2012, 00:09
Not really that arsed, was more curious than anything. Its staying in the car and the car is staying with me... Just nice to know...

Someone is selling a mk2 16v Front Badge for £35 in the classifieds, £35!!! Pretty sure I have at least a couple of them lying about somewhere.
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: JC on 24 June 2012, 07:55
Vw rare matts were funnily enough not so rare at to inters yesterday  :lipsrsealed:

And overpriced tat was Too , for so called classic vw parts  :undecided:

Just all laid out from the back of some dodgy looking transits  :laugh:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: scott-o on 24 June 2012, 20:49
I'm after a Vw motorsport gear knob and steering wheel. Absolute no luck yet :(
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: dragonfly on 25 June 2012, 08:43
Saw a couple of 'GTi 16v' front badges for sale at Inters yesterday - £20.  I'm sure you could've bartered for less - but still a resonable price.

Thom - It was nice to meet you yesterday - Mr Blue introduced us in amongst stuffing his face with Bon Bons!
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Thom89 on 25 June 2012, 17:31


Thom - It was nice to meet you yesterday - Mr Blue introduced us in amongst stuffing his face with Bon Bons!

Pleasure meeting your Clan as well, always great to put faces to names, hope to catch you all again soon :cool:

Thom
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: deckchair on 25 June 2012, 17:49
I managed to pick up a roof gutter trim at inters yesterday in excellent condition for £15 after being told they were rare and fetching £250 2nd hand! BTW thanks Thom and Mr blue for fitting tips, went on like a dream! Clips the right way up this time 0 :laugh: nice meeting you guys and putting a face to the name.
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: clipperjay on 25 June 2012, 18:04
Nah not £250 the grief is actually delivery the tube its got to go in is massive as they bend easily so not surprised they say its stupid money just on delivery alone.
I've got one I'm saving so I'm not in your situation mate  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Thom89 on 25 June 2012, 19:03
I managed to pick up a roof gutter trim at inters yesterday in excellent condition for £15 after being told they were rare and fetching £250 2nd hand! BTW thanks Thom and Mr blue for fitting tips, went on like a dream! Clips the right way up this time 0 :laugh: nice meeting you guys and putting a face to the name.

Pleasure to meet Mr and Mrs Deckchair also, those pesky clips eh, they must have made them upside down :lipsrsealed:

Thom
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: deckchair on 25 June 2012, 20:01
Your mocking me aren't you? Lol
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Dave_IOW on 26 June 2012, 19:00
Some of the prices at Inters were disgusting.
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Thom89 on 26 June 2012, 19:24
Some of the prices at Inters were disgusting.

Yeah, the price to get in on the day!

Thom
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Dave_IOW on 26 June 2012, 19:37
Some of the prices at Inters were disgusting.

Yeah, the price to get in on the day!

Thom

My trip rounded up to about £150 for 3 hours  :shocked:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: JC on 26 June 2012, 19:39
but you saved that by not drinking for a whole dave  :grin:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: scott-o on 02 July 2012, 09:43
Finally got one  :drool:

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/scott-sri/Mk2%20Golf%20GTI/97d24d4e.jpg)
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 02 July 2012, 14:38
1. Make do and mend.
2. Adapt and improvise.


Failing that just buy another Mk2 for the parts.  Far cheaper.

 :grin:

Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Thom89 on 02 July 2012, 17:49
Finally got one  :drool:

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/scott-sri/Mk2%20Golf%20GTI/97d24d4e.jpg)

Want to sell it?  :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :rolleyes:

Thom
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: tomp on 02 July 2012, 19:03
Finally got one  :drool:

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/scott-sri/Mk2%20Golf%20GTI/97d24d4e.jpg)

Want to sell it?  :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :rolleyes:

Thom

You keep trying don't you Thom!!!  :grin:
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: scott-o on 02 July 2012, 23:07
It's going nowhere sadly, I got lucky for once! Just the steering wheel to find now!
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Thom89 on 03 July 2012, 00:03
It's going nowhere sadly, I got lucky for once! Just the steering wheel to find now!

Any chance you can divulge what you payed, and whether you were happy with the price, or you felt it was OTT, but thought Sod it!

Thom
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: scott-o on 03 July 2012, 10:52
pm'd mate
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: Thom89 on 04 July 2012, 20:06
pm'd mate

PM received, seemed a fair price, for you and the seller, considering its rarity :cool:

Envious! :evil:

Thom
Title: Re: The price of 2nd hand, and genuinely rare parts.. Discussion
Post by: scott-o on 05 July 2012, 12:09
Cheers, i was more than happy to pay what i did pay, all fitted now, as per progress thread:

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/scott-sri/Mk2%20Golf%20GTI/01c5a5bf.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/scott-sri/Mk2%20Golf%20GTI/f624d0bf.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/scott-sri/Mk2%20Golf%20GTI/0bba4137.jpg)