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Title: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Jimmymature on 20 June 2012, 20:49

Hi all, I've come to the end of my supply of Valet Pro's Billberry Wheel cleaner and I have to say I wasnt impressed!

What would you guys recommend as an alternative, obviosuly I need a non-acid based wheel cleaner that is gentle on my wheels.

What's Purple Rain like as an alternative?


Cheers,


Jim
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Dan J on 20 June 2012, 22:53
Are they lacquered?

IronX is better imo
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: scarr89 on 21 June 2012, 15:16
Are they lacquered?

IronX is better imo


Not specifically a wheel cleaner though. Purely for iron build up. I just use G101, spray it all over a wet wheel, give it a good scrub with a wheel cleaning brush and a mitt then rinse off. Works a treat for me  :wink:

I think the thing you want to worried about it getting the protection on your wheel correct in the first place. A well protected wheel will need minimal effort cleaning. Do you have any sort of protection on them? If so DJ SN wheel cleaner is meant to be a winner :afro:
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Guy on 21 June 2012, 16:00
i wouldn't use G101 for diamond cut

have you thought about using AS SmartWheels?
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Jimmymature on 21 June 2012, 17:24
i wouldn't use G101 for diamond cut

have you thought about using AS SmartWheels?

Thanks Guy, is this ok to use on the MK6 diamond cut wheels?



Cheers,


Jim
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Dan J on 21 June 2012, 18:19
Are they lacquered?

IronX is better imo


Not specifically a wheel cleaner though. Purely for iron build up. I just use G101, spray it all over a wet wheel, give it a good scrub with a wheel cleaning brush and a mitt then rinse off. Works a treat for me  :wink:

I think the thing you want to worried about it getting the protection on your wheel correct in the first place. A well protected wheel will need minimal effort cleaning. Do you have any sort of protection on them? If so DJ SN wheel cleaner is meant to be a winner :afro:

Correct but I was refuring to ironX being a better product to go for over purple rain, it's ph neutral also. And too a point the majority of crap on a rim will be fallout from the brakes.

G101 can stain wheels,

And Scarr states the better your wheels are protected the easier they will be to clean and keep clean.
I use fk1000p to protect wheels.

Have they been lacquered or are they bare?
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Jimmymature on 21 June 2012, 18:26
I guess they are lacquered, they are the factory diamond cut wheels.

I use JetSeal 109 and Rimwax on them normally to keep them protected.


Jim
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Dan J on 21 June 2012, 18:34
Well it looks like they are well protected, if you clean your wheels on a regular basis and keep up with it then a ph neutral shampoo mixed in a sprayer should be more than good enough to keep them clean, just keep on top of it and top up with your rim wax as needed and you should be fine. Washing them Weekly or twice a week depending on your mileage obviously will keep ontop of it.
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Jimmymature on 21 June 2012, 18:38
Is Smart Wheels ok to use on my wheels?



Thanks for all the advice gents.


Jim
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Dan J on 21 June 2012, 18:48
Yep smart wheels is acid free so no worrys with your wheels just stick to the dilution guides and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Jimmymature on 21 June 2012, 19:03
Yep smart wheels is acid free so no worrys with your wheels just stick to the dilution guides and you'll be fine.

I was a little concerned with this comment on their website.

"Not Suitable for Anodised or bare alloy surfaces" that suggests to me that there may be acid in it?


Jim
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Dan J on 21 June 2012, 19:54
Yep smart wheels is acid free so no worrys with your wheels just stick to the dilution guides and you'll be fine.

I was a little concerned with this comment on their website.

"Not Suitable for Anodised or bare alloy surfaces" that suggests to me that there may be acid in it?


Jim

Hence why I was asking in my first post if they are lacquered or not, smart wheels is non acidic ,its alkaline.
If your rims are mint with no corrosion and have lacquer over the diamond cut faces then smart wheels is fine diluted, as you seal your rims they won't need a strong mix of anything put on them if you keep ontop of the washes and protection.

Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Jimmymature on 21 June 2012, 20:11
Great, thanks again for the advice.


Cheers,


Jim
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: JonnyG on 21 June 2012, 23:05
As Dan says, if you are already using Jetseal 109 and/or Rimwax there is really no need to use a wheel cleaner.   Just top up every month with a bit more sealant and use a gentle shampoo at wash time - works a treat & keeps the whiteworm away  :grin: :rolleyes: 
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: scarr89 on 22 June 2012, 00:39
As Dan says, if you are already using Jetseal 109 and/or Rimwax there is really no need to use a wheel cleaner.   Just top up every month with a bit more sealant and use a gentle shampoo at wash time - works a treat & keeps the whiteworm away  :grin: :rolleyes: 

This. A good blast with the pressure washer normally gets most of the dirt of mine (3 coats of poorboys wheel sealant).

Are they lacquered?

IronX is better imo


Not specifically a wheel cleaner though. Purely for iron build up. I just use G101, spray it all over a wet wheel, give it a good scrub with a wheel cleaning brush and a mitt then rinse off. Works a treat for me  :wink:

I think the thing you want to worried about it getting the protection on your wheel correct in the first place. A well protected wheel will need minimal effort cleaning. Do you have any sort of protection on them? If so DJ SN wheel cleaner is meant to be a winner :afro:

Correct but I was refuring to ironX being a better product to go for over purple rain, it's ph neutral also. And too a point the majority of crap on a rim will be fallout from the brakes.

G101 can stain wheels,

And Scarr states the better your wheels are protected the easier they will be to clean and keep clean.
I use fk1000p to protect wheels.

Have they been lacquered or are they bare?

Didn't mean to jump down your throat there  :wink: We were both thinking the same thing  :grin:
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: simonpolly on 22 June 2012, 14:35
i wouldn't use G101 for diamond cut

have you thought about using AS SmartWheels?

Thanks Guy, is this ok to use on the MK6 diamond cut wheels?



Cheers,


Jim

i dont know why you need to use anything other than a good shampoo and wash mit,i find the monza`s dont really get that dirty :undecided:,i just wash them and occasionally wax them this seems to keep them looking pretty good.
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Dan J on 22 June 2012, 23:43
As Dan says, if you are already using Jetseal 109 and/or Rimwax there is really no need to use a wheel cleaner.   Just top up every month with a bit more sealant and use a gentle shampoo at wash time - works a treat & keeps the whiteworm away  :grin: :rolleyes: 

This. A good blast with the pressure washer normally gets most of the dirt of mine (3 coats of poorboys wheel sealant).

Are they lacquered?

IronX is better imo


Not specifically a wheel cleaner though. Purely for iron build up. I just use G101, spray it all over a wet wheel, give it a good scrub with a wheel cleaning brush and a mitt then rinse off. Works a treat for me  :wink:

I think the thing you want to worried about it getting the protection on your wheel correct in the first place. A well protected wheel will need minimal effort cleaning. Do you have any sort of protection on them? If so DJ SN wheel cleaner is meant to be a winner :afro:

Correct but I was refuring to ironX being a better product to go for over purple rain, it's ph neutral also. And too a point the majority of crap on a rim will be fallout from the brakes.

G101 can stain wheels,

And Scarr states the better your wheels are protected the easier they will be to clean and keep clean.
I use fk1000p to protect wheels.

Have they been lacquered or are they bare?

Didn't mean to jump down your throat there  :wink: We were both thinking the same thing  :grin:

No probs mate :cool:
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: MonkeyP on 26 June 2012, 22:28
for the shadow monza wheels would poorboy sealant be ok? want to get them sorted this weekend. Already got a noticeable mark on one wheel from a stone(which i know the sealant cant protect it against) and i dont want other marks from small particles.
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: JonnyG on 28 June 2012, 19:41
for the shadow monza wheels would poorboy sealant be ok? want to get them sorted this weekend. [/quote

Yes, and keep it topped up regularly with fresh coats is the key  :smiley:
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Mr GTD on 28 June 2012, 21:08
for the shadow monza wheels would poorboy sealant be ok? want to get them sorted this weekend. [/quote

Yes, and keep it topped up regularly with fresh coats is the key  :smiley:

I use the poorboys it's great stuff, such a manly colour too  :laugh:
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: mkviken on 30 June 2012, 21:55
i did 3 coats of BP's wheel sealant the day i got the car and i top up another 2x coats every 1000 miles or so and so far my wheels have been ridiculously easy to keep clean. the crap literally slides off with car shampoo and a mit.

the main problem I've found with monza shadows is they seem to get stone chips due to their large flat spokes  :angry:


also once I've washed and dried the car i drive it round the block a few times to dry the brakes off and the wheels and callipers get absolutely covered with rusty brake dust so i need to wipe them down again. it doesnt show on the silver but does on the gloss black parts :angry: :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: MonkeyP on 01 July 2012, 10:34
i did 3 coats of BP's wheel sealant the day i got the car and i top up another 2x coats every 1000 miles or so and so far my wheels have been ridiculously easy to keep clean. the crap literally slides off with car shampoo and a mit.

the main problem I've found with monza shadows is they seem to get stone chips due to their large flat spokes  :angry:


also once I've washed and dried the car i drive it round the block a few times to dry the brakes off and the wheels and callipers get absolutely covered with rusty brake dust so i need to wipe them down again. it doesnt show on the silver but does on the gloss black parts :angry: :angry: :angry:

I agree. i keep getting marks on the wheels from stones. the worst thing is cos the wheels are fairly shiny the slightest of marks really shows up.

will be gettin PB on monday so will be puttin on a few coats asap!
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: mkviken on 01 July 2012, 11:58
slap it on the inside too and it keeps the inside of the wheel rim easy to clean too. gloss black seems to show the dirt easy so looks good to keep the inside of the wheel clean too
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Mr GTD on 01 July 2012, 16:00
slap it on the inside too and it keeps the inside of the wheel rim easy to clean too. gloss black seems to show the dirt easy so looks good to keep the inside of the wheel clean too

Did this, and to this day they are still in a showroom condition, I don't venture on to motorways ect that much so the speeds I get up to round these parts arn't that great so I guess this helps too...
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Jimmgc51 on 07 July 2012, 23:54
I'm looking into getting an alloy cleaner for my monza's too and after reading into different products have decided to go for R222 gel wheel cleaner, it's got good reviews and is PH neutral so won't damage the alloys at all, plus for heavy soiling u can leave it on for up to 2 hours giving the gel time to loosen everything up. Unfort I have just ordered so can't give u a first hand user comment. But worth a look. .....
Title: Re: Best Wheel Cleaner for Diamond Cut
Post by: Mr GTD on 08 July 2012, 07:54
I'm looking into getting an alloy cleaner for my monza's too and after reading into different products have decided to go for R222 gel wheel cleaner, it's got good reviews and is PH neutral so won't damage the alloys at all, plus for heavy soiling u can leave it on for up to 2 hours giving the gel time to loosen everything up. Unfort I have just ordered so can't give u a first hand user comment. But worth a look. .....

Let us know how you get on....