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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: ALBEEEEY on 19 June 2012, 23:37
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Saw this on another forum when searching around and thought it was a great idea. Basically it's one thread giving personal reviews of kits that you have tried and tested. This is all in one thread to save people searching through thread after thread for reviews. Please only right a review if you have personally tried the kit and list the following:
Name of kit
Price
Your review of the kit, ride, quality etc etc.
Please no posts asking if a kit is good just read the reviews and make up your mind which coilovers suit you best :smiley:
I'm in the market for some at the moment so can't start the reviews so hopefully someone will start it off for me below :grin:
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Witec Kit
£449
Very good quality been on for 2 years now not sceized up and no leaks, Nice firm ride only gripe is rears wound to bottom and not low enough
but still would recomend
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Weitec gt kit
£449
Awesome bit of kit and amazing quality or the price.
Improves handling greatly and ride is nice and firm but not rock hard like some cheaper brands.
Would defiantly reccomeded.
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Name of Kit: Weitec Hicon GT
Price: €600
I changed the TA sh!tbrix that came on my Anniversary for a set of these. The difference was night and day. The TA's were crashy and bouncy all at the same time, you could feel literally every bump in the road, they were just awful to live with. The first time I sat into my car on the Weitecs I could feel the difference, firm but comfortable ride, and they seem to be getting better over time, really great bit of kit for the price.
They lower more than enough for me too. Twin Tube design and galvanized strut housing was an added bonus too. I'd highly recommend them. I did a good bit of homework on them before I bought, and the majority of reviews on the forums were very positive.
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JOM's
£150 delivered :grin:
Been on for 18months and still fine. The ride is good its not uncomfortable and they come with 2years warranty!
No knocks or bangs, can go pretty low if you wanted and helps grip the road really well in my opinion.
The only down fall is when delivered you have to makesure everything is tight as I had read on ukmkivs the front struts have a nut on the shock that come loose over time and cause the it to flex then leak fluid, Well mine were loose when delivered! Haha :evil:
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jom's £150
as jamie said really is spot on.... mine were loose to but only found out afterwards been pretty good apart from having several spine replacements on my back but that could be down to age :grin:
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FK AK coilovers
£170
Been on the car nearly 2 years now with no problems at all. Nice ride & not too hard. Only downside is they can be a bit bouncy at times but that doesn't really bother me that much.
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JOM - £180
Used these for 2 years before I sold them, ideal solution for lowering but dampening rate was awful and the ride was bouncy yet harsh. The shocks were gone after 2 years and the coating on the spring peeled off. It served its purpose as a temporary solution and given its price it will suffice for lowering.
Bilstein b16 pss9 - £1400
I had these for just over 16 months and the transformation is quite profound; the shocks can be felt working on something as mundane as a straight piece of dual carriageway where before it felt absent. The ride is no more harsh than on JOM although this depends on your choice of setting for the shocks. The shocks characteristics such as compression/rebound etc. are all adjusted via a single dial which makes for a simple process, but also means a lack of adjustability as they are unable to be independently changed. The bilsteins inspires confidence in the corners not least because of its responsiveness which is in part the result of its high pressure monotube shock design. The high pressure shock design makes for a more consistent performance even with sustained use on the track - it holds its handling characteristics where previously the JOM would get sloppy after the equivalent of a taster session as the shock's gas began to heat up.
The placement of the adjustors for the front shock is questionable and they are not made of stainless steel as offered by Kw variants in their inox line which is disappointing, but overall I am content they serve their purpose as performance coilovers.
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fk afk
~ £170
been on for 6 months now, rides fine (handles better than standard, but lets face it thats not hard) out handles some peoples cars with alot more expensive kits on. ride is firm but not too firm. perfect budget kit. for track i would be going for weitec or something more but just for road use i cant fault these
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JOM - £180
Used these for 2 years before I sold them, ideal solution for lowering but dampening rate was awful and the ride was bouncy yet harsh. The shocks were gone after 2 years and the coating on the spring peeled off. It served its purpose as a temporary solution and given its price it will suffice for lowering.
Bilstein b16 pss9 - £1400
I had these for just over 16 months and the transformation is quite profound; the shocks can be felt working on something as mundane as a straight piece of dual carriageway where before it felt absent. The ride is no more harsh than on JOM although this depends on your choice of setting for the shocks. The shocks characteristics such as compression/rebound etc. are all adjusted via a single dial which makes for a simple process, but also means a lack of adjustability as they are unable to be independently changed. The bilsteins inspires confidence in the corners not least because of its responsiveness which is in part the result of its high pressure monotube shock design. The high pressure shock design makes for a more consistent performance even with sustained use on the track - it holds its handling characteristics where previously the JOM would get sloppy after the equivalent of a taster session as the shock's gas began to heat up.
The placement of the adjustors for the front shock is questionable and they are not made of stainless steel as offered by Kw variants in their inox line which is disappointing, but overall I am content they serve their purpose as performance coilovers.
£1400 for coils most ppl's cars are not worth that much :grin:
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£1400 for coils most ppl's cars are not worth that much :grin:
that's true :grin: but a broad range of options and price ranges are the aim of the thread. So to cater for all :smiley:
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im sure they are very good for what he uses them for :cool:
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jealousy is a terrible thing now cully :grin: lets leave the b!tching to another thread this is pretty helpful for me cos im on the prowl for me first set still n the more variety the betta
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not jealous mate or b!tching just saying :grin: as said im sure they are very good for what he uses them for track i beleive... if you can afford it and want summat that works then go for it i take my hat off to the chap as he as done an incredible amount of work and put a lot of money into the car and just looking at the pictures he puts up shows what a good job he is doing of it :cool: for once im in an exceptionally good mood dont spoil it :grin: :laugh:
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my bad m8 :embarassed: i mite have took it wrong. any1 else got some more coilovers to share? i was lookin at fk at first but i been told they are like rebrand joms so im leaning toward hicon gt
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my bad m8 :embarassed: i mite have took it wrong. any1 else got some more coilovers to share? i was lookin at fk at first but i been told they are like rebrand joms so im leaning toward hicon gt
I've an 8L S3 with KW V1s at the moment and it rides the exact same as my Anniversary GTI on Weitecs. Weitecs are made by KW.
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my bad m8 :embarassed: i mite have took it wrong. any1 else got some more coilovers to share? i was lookin at fk at first but i been told they are like rebrand joms so im leaning toward hicon gt
np dude :cool:
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Review of FK-AK and Joms
I know of both since I got Joms and my friend got FK-AKs at the same time. Both have good drops, with the FK-AK's are able to drop a tad more over the JOMs. If you are looking for an extremely firm ride the JOMs are the way to go with a slightly lower than standard drop they are a lot stiffer than the stock setup but not to much of a compromise. Yet with a descent drop they are very firm. FK-AKs are an improvement over the stock setup yet retain a very nice comfort, even with a big drop in comparison to the JOMs they are still comfortable. So if you want stiffness JOMs, if you want improvement in ride but still like your comfort then FK-AK. Both have been on for over 2 years with no problems, either way they are a huge improvement over the stock setup!
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Saw this on another forum when searching around and thought it was a great idea. Basically it's one thread giving personal reviews of kits that you have tried and tested. This is all in one thread to save people searching through thread after thread for reviews. Please only right a review if you have personally tried the kit and list the following:
Name of kit
Price
Your review of the kit, ride, quality etc etc.
Please no posts asking if a kit is good just read the reviews and make up your mind which coilovers suit you best :smiley:
I'm in the market for some at the moment so can't start the reviews so hopefully someone will start it off for me below :grin:
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Anymore reviews? :smiley:
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£1400 for coilovers on a mk4
barge golf is a joke the chassis is rubbish, wasted cash if you ask me.
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Can you explain your opinion?
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Chassis isn't to bad, you have ARB's as stock on the front, can use rear ARB to stiffen it up a bit more and even cheap coilovers improve the stock setup so much from body roll and handling response. Also the fact that suspension usually wears out a significant amount in 60k and with cars over a decade old the handling will have deteriorated a bit. Just look at how a cheap set of FK-AK or Joms change the entire charecter of the car.
However I do think you should email VW and say "what where they thinking using steel, why don't the mk4 have a carbon fibre monocoque" and who knows they may make you a mk4 with a carbon fibre shell to solve your awful problem you are experiencing?
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ask anyone... the mk4 chassis is poo and £1400 suspension wouldn't improve it, they'd properly do a little better than the £150 JOM's.
how many mk4 race car have you ever seen really?
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Plenty of track toys, you are asking a lot from a decade old car which is just a sporty hatch back, not a rally car or a supercar. Again look at its brother the LCR all that is, is an uprated setup in the suspension department and that handles very different.
It's slow and handling doesn't compare to something like the mk2 Leon or s3, but like I said its an old car. But compare the mk4 to the other cars of its time from shape to interior to say a T reg mk4 fiesta, mk2 punto, the astra all in the time the mk4 came out. It was quite modern in comparison and if not a lot better, just jump into any most manufacturers T reg car and then jump back into the mk4.
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Plenty of track toys, you are asking a lot from a decade old car which is just a sporty hatch back, not a rally car or a supercar. Again look at its brother the LCR all that is, is an uprated setup in the suspension department and that handles very different.
It's slow and handling doesn't compare to something like the mk2 Leon or s3, but like I said its an old car. But compare the mk4 to the other cars of its time from shape to interior to say a T reg mk4 fiesta, mk2 punto, the astra all in the time the mk4 came out. It was quite modern in comparison and if not a lot better, just jump into any most manufacturers T reg car and then jump back into the mk4.
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Well said :cool:
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Plenty of track toys, you are asking a lot from a decade old car which is just a sporty hatch back, not a rally car or a supercar. Again look at its brother the LCR all that is, is an uprated setup in the suspension department and that handles very different.
It's slow and handling doesn't compare to something like the mk2 Leon or s3, but like I said its an old car. But compare the mk4 to the other cars of its time from shape to interior to say a T reg mk4 fiesta, mk2 punto, the astra all in the time the mk4 came out. It was quite modern in comparison and if not a lot better, just jump into any most manufacturers T reg car and then jump back into the mk4.
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Agreed
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sib mines a s reg :lipsrsealed: :grin:
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Can't believe you could complain about the handling of something that was designed as a hot hatch. Go get an out of the box twingo
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sib mines a s reg :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Yep, even R reg ones are about which is 97, it was a huge jump forward when you compare its to even vw's mk4 polo which was still in production at that time and that was awful :grin:
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Lets keep this to just reviews please :smiley:
Weitec Hi-Con GT
£400
Been fitted for 3 1/2 years now and covered just over 100k miles!! Had no problems with them. Think the adjusters have seized but haven't touch them since they where set up. For the money I can't fault them, fairly good ride, for coilovers. And with front and rear ARB's the handling was transformed :cool:
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can't really give a review as i haven't got coily's on my golf YET.that is all to come but i had kw coily's on my s reg audi a3 1.8t (basically same car,diff shell)
and they were great!
comfy ride for coilovers but still sporty enough without to much harshness, set me back around 4-500 at the time i believe(was 2-3 years ago)
gonna get them again when i get round to rebuilding my golf in the near future!
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ask anyone... the mk4 chassis is poo and £1400 suspension wouldn't improve it, they'd properly do a little better than the £150 JOM's.
how many mk4 race car have you ever seen really?
This is really making it difficult for me to decide now... so from your experience you would say the £1400 n above market are nt much if any betta dan £150 JOM what coilovers did u have b4 the jom? if the premium ones are the same as £150 jom then deres no way im goin to bother with weitec or kw rubbish either
sry bout all the questions but i jst dnt want to make the wrong choice being me first set of coiloveers but cos u had a set of premium coilovers b4 ur jom u could help
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Dont listen to him mate.
You get what you pay for.
Joms are budget coil-overs with 2 years warranty and if it makes a difference I live in South Wales valleys and as you can imagine its pretty bumpy everywhere. I have no complaints about Joms they hold the road very well but I would recommend you tighten the top nut on the front dampers before fitting as they come loose and eventually leak fluid out because the struts flex.
As for top end coil-overs I would expect them to be better build quality,last alot longer and perform better.
At the end of the day it doesnt matter what you buy, you get what you pay for.
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im just curious why dundeal went from expensive coilovers to joms have they really made the jom much betta or are all suspensions pretty much da same just wid a sticker on it
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ask anyone... the mk4 chassis is poo and £1400 suspension wouldn't improve it, they'd properly do a little better than the £150 JOM's.
how many mk4 race car have you ever seen really?
This is really making it difficult for me to decide now... so from your experience you would say the £1400 n above market are nt much if any betta dan £150 JOM what coilovers did u have b4 the jom? if the premium ones are the same as £150 jom then deres no way im goin to bother with weitec or kw rubbish either
sry bout all the questions but i jst dnt want to make the wrong choice being me first set of coiloveers but cos u had a set of premium coilovers b4 ur jom u could help
Weitec and kw aren't rubbish mate and as the previous person has said the joms leak fluid cos the struts flex!
And I quote Dont listen to him mate.
At the end of the day it doesnt matter what you buy, you get what you pay for.
Personally when I do mine I'm going for a mid range set of kw as I had these on my previous car (Audi a3 1.8t) and had no complaints and were comfy enough to drive on everyday :cool:
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Plenty of track toys, you are asking a lot from a decade old car which is just a sporty hatch back, not a rally car or a supercar. Again look at its brother the LCR all that is, is an uprated setup in the suspension department and that handles very different.
It's slow and handling doesn't compare to something like the mk2 Leon or s3, but like I said its an old car. But compare the mk4 to the other cars of its time from shape to interior to say a T reg mk4 fiesta, mk2 punto, the astra all in the time the mk4 came out. It was quite modern in comparison and if not a lot better, just jump into any most manufacturers T reg car and then jump back into the mk4.
Get in an EK9 and tell me that again..
I had to say it.
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EK9 is quick, not very torquey but the revs they hold makes them brilliant fun round bends. But is rather own a golf over it, plus top end on speed they lack as you get above 120. I'm sure on the track it would make mince of the golf.
Plus I'm not a fan of cars named after their CAD number nor do I dig vtec. :grin:
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dunndeal did not pay £1400 for his coilovers if you read the thread from the start you will find that it is rockmonkey that has paid £1400 for them and he intends to use the car on the track i beleive ... which you can understand why he spent so much as i have jom but as good as they are for the money i dont think they would last 2 minutes on the track :grin:
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Lets keep this to just reviews please :smiley:
LOL - you have no chance... Time for some moderating?
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Lets keep this to just reviews please :smiley:
LOL - you have no chance... Time for some moderating?
Haha :evil: