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Title: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Kus on 17 June 2012, 18:37
So is a remapped 1.8 turbo actully fast ? I know it wouldn't be as quick as modern day hot hatches at focus vxr astra ect

Reason i ask is because I used to own a 306 gti-6 and I'd like that power again but want more refinement.
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: richw911 on 17 June 2012, 18:44
Not that quick tbh - its heavy and as you say old now lots of new cars are quicker inc diesels.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Kus on 17 June 2012, 18:47
So it woundnt be quick as a gti-6? Don't suppose you've driven one though
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: richw911 on 17 June 2012, 18:48
So it woundnt be quick as a gti-6? Don't suppose you've driven one though

Ive not driven one but i would say the pug is quicker.
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 17 June 2012, 18:48
it wont be as quick as todays cars as they come out the factory with more power to start with but a remap certainly brings them to life and gives you a big fat grin  :grin:
i think a mapped 1.8t will be quicker than a gti6 as they only 170bhp a mapped 1.8t your looking at 180+ and the torque figure
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: JimBR on 17 June 2012, 18:48
My stage 1 golf wasn't too embarrassed by a focus st on a long private road he wasn't that much quicker and I had a passenger and a saxo rear axle (don't ask). It quicker than a friends APY S3 too (providing its dry) although I guess its an old car too really. A VXR would slaughter me i'd imagine  :grin:

They're not fast really but with a remap they are cheap performance considering how much the cars cost nowadays. The engines are pretty flexible and an AUM/AUQ with a k03s make decent power really.
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 17 June 2012, 18:50
My stage 1 golf wasn't too embarrassed by a focus st. It quicker than a friends APY S3 too (providing its dry) I guess its an old car too really though. A VXR would slaughter me i'd imagine  :grin:

vxr slaughtered me a few days ago so i just took a different exit  :laugh:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Kus on 17 June 2012, 18:53
Think the pug would be quicker aswel it was pretty rapid pulled like a train
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: richw911 on 17 June 2012, 18:53
it wont be as quick as todays cars as they come out the factory with more power to start with but a remap certainly brings them to life and gives you a big fat grin  :grin:
i think a mapped 1.8t will be quicker than a gti6 as they only 170bhp a mapped 1.8t your looking at 180+ and the torque figure

How heavy is a pug though? Tin can.........
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: JimBR on 17 June 2012, 18:54
Even if it is slower in a straight line. It will handle better thats for certain  :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 17 June 2012, 18:54
Even if it is slower in a straight line. It will handle better thats for certain  :grin:

no one mentioned corners  :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: richw911 on 17 June 2012, 18:55
Even if it is slower in a straight line. It will handle better thats for certain  :grin:

no one mentioned corners  :grin:


We don't talk about corners in the mk4 section.












 :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 17 June 2012, 18:56
what is that word you speak of  :grin:

gti6 are very quick as my mate had one just couldnt afford the fuel
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 17 June 2012, 18:58
Even if it is slower in a straight line. It will handle better thats for certain  :grin:

no one mentioned corners  :grin:


We don't talk about corners in the mk4 section.












 :grin:


lmfao
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2012, 18:58
So it woundnt be quick as a gti-6? Don't suppose you've driven one though

My mate had a gold pug GTI 6 and we found it slow.... compaired to my Suzuki Swift GTI which was standard at the time of test (100bhp) the pug couldnt keep up

 id say a decent map on a mk4 1.8T would be quicker however the mk4 is a bit lardy..

if you have a mk4 with the K0s3 turbo, and have that mapped, the pug would have no chance, even more so if you fit a K04
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: jnufcuk on 17 June 2012, 19:05
Just buy a mk2 and stick a 1.8t in. Problem solved  :cool:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: JC on 17 June 2012, 19:07
So is a remapped 1.8 turbo actully fast ? I know it wouldn't be as quick as modern day hot hatches at focus vxr astra ect

Reason i ask is because I used to own a 306 gti-6 and I'd like that power again but want more refinement.

time to buy and map a diesel then  :wink:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: JimBR on 17 June 2012, 19:08
Get a Leon Cupra R if you can  :smiley:

Map to 250/260bhp (should beat a 306 easily as standard), Brembo Brakes, better suspension bushes ARB and wishbones.

Also alot nicer inside I think.
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 17 June 2012, 19:11
Get a Leon Cupra R if you can  :smiley:

Map to 250/260bhp (should beat a 306 easily as standard), Brembo Brakes, better suspension bushes ARB and wishbones.

Also alot nicer inside I think.

lardey leon cupra's even heavier than the mk4.
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: JimBR on 17 June 2012, 19:12
What makes you say that?
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Kus on 17 June 2012, 19:14
Id love a cupra r but it's out of my price range at the minute
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: dom on 17 June 2012, 19:14
Get a Leon Cupra R if you can  :smiley:

Map to 250/260bhp, Brembo Brakes, better suspension bushes ARB and wishbones.

Also alot nicer inside I think.

Agreed, other than the interior. I think the LCR dash & switchgear feels cheap compared to the golf.

I'm not sure what power I'm running, it was mapped at 205bhp & 245lb/ft. Since then I've added silicone boost pipes, silicone TIP and 3" turbo back exhaust with decat. I'm guessing around 215bhp?

Anyway, I gave a Focus ST an extremely hard time the other week. Completely glued to his rear bumper until the traffic got busier & I backed off.
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: JimBR on 17 June 2012, 19:16
Theres no wood inside them  :grin:

Im running 210bhp, 230ft/lb and gave it a hard time  :smiley: I think he was surprised anyway.
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 17 June 2012, 19:17
thats what makes the mk4 look heavy is all that fooking timber inside  :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: JimBR on 17 June 2012, 19:18
Germany's finest plastic timber.
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: jnufcuk on 17 June 2012, 19:22
Just buy a veyron, quicker than most things  :grin:

Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Toby on 17 June 2012, 19:24
Depends how far u go.... Mines slow  :kiss:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 17 June 2012, 19:25
What makes you say that?

seat leon cupra r = 1376 kg.
mk4 golf 1.8t = 1238 kg
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 17 June 2012, 19:26
if i had the money to bye a veyron i wouldnt be on here infact i wouldnt be on this island  :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: JimBR on 17 June 2012, 19:31
What makes you say that?

seat leon cupra r = 1376 kg.
mk4 golf 1.8t = 1238 kg

Just make sure youve got a skinny girlfriend then
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 17 June 2012, 19:56
What makes you say that?

seat leon cupra r = 1376 kg.
mk4 golf 1.8t = 1238 kg

Just make sure youve got a skinny girlfriend then

with my looks mate i can only attract the fat birds  :kiss:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: JimBR on 17 June 2012, 20:01
They all need loving
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 17 June 2012, 20:06
lol more cushin for the pushin :laugh:


what has this thread turned into?
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: barrym381 on 17 June 2012, 20:19
lol more cushin for the pushin :laugh:


what has this thread turned into?
2 guys talkin about fat chicks thats worse that sayin cornerin in a mk4s great  :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: richw911 on 17 June 2012, 20:23
So is a remapped 1.8 turbo actully fast ? I know it wouldn't be as quick as modern day hot hatches at focus vxr astra ect

Reason i ask is because I used to own a 306 gti-6 and I'd like that power again but want more refinement.

time to buy and map a diesel then  :wink:

I know  :cry: :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Rhyso on 17 June 2012, 20:26
So is a remapped 1.8 turbo actully fast ? I know it wouldn't be as quick as modern day hot hatches at focus vxr astra ect

Reason i ask is because I used to own a 306 gti-6 and I'd like that power again but want more refinement.

time to buy and map a diesel then  :wink:

I know  :cry: :grin:

This  :evil:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: richw911 on 17 June 2012, 20:29
So is a remapped 1.8 turbo actully fast ? I know it wouldn't be as quick as modern day hot hatches at focus vxr astra ect

Reason i ask is because I used to own a 306 gti-6 and I'd like that power again but want more refinement.

time to buy and map a diesel then  :wink:

I know  :cry: :grin:

This  :evil:

I really thought the day would never come, so did Alan Dell  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 17 June 2012, 21:03
lol more cushin for the pushin :laugh:


what has this thread turned into?
2 guys talkin about fat chicks thats worse that sayin cornerin in a mk4s great  :grin:

spat my brew everywhere lol
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Wayne on 17 June 2012, 21:44
I find mine more than quick enough with a remap.
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: JC on 17 June 2012, 21:46
So is a remapped 1.8 turbo actully fast ? I know it wouldn't be as quick as modern day hot hatches at focus vxr astra ect

Reason i ask is because I used to own a 306 gti-6 and I'd like that power again but want more refinement.

time to buy and map a diesel then  :wink:

I know  :cry: :grin:

This  :evil:

I really thought the day would never come, so did Alan Dell  :grin: :grin: :grin:

oh he did, even admitted it when he drove that saab  :lipsrsealed:

 :wink:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Tezmax on 17 June 2012, 21:47
Even with a fat bird in it? :wink:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: richw911 on 17 June 2012, 22:07
So is a remapped 1.8 turbo actully fast ? I know it wouldn't be as quick as modern day hot hatches at focus vxr astra ect

Reason i ask is because I used to own a 306 gti-6 and I'd like that power again but want more refinement.

time to buy and map a diesel then  :wink:

I know  :cry: :grin:

This  :evil:

I really thought the day would never come, so did Alan Dell  :grin: :grin: :grin:

oh he did, even admitted it when he drove that saab  :lipsrsealed:

 :wink:

 :laugh: Alan Diesel  :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: dan2252 on 17 June 2012, 22:56
So it woundnt be quick as a gti-6? Don't suppose you've driven one though

My mate had a gold pug GTI 6 and we found it slow.... compaired to my Suzuki Swift GTI which was standard at the time of test (100bhp) the pug couldnt keep up

 id say a decent map on a mk4 1.8T would be quicker however the mk4 is a bit lardy..

if you have a mk4 with the K0s3 turbo, and have that mapped, the pug would have no chance, even more so if you fit a K04

1+ i agree. a saxo vts isnt much slower than a gti6 1.8ts arnt too bad! there torquy which is what every1 forgets. just chavvy french owners love bhp! haha id happly race a gti 6 in mine and mines roughly around 200 bhp, dare i say a standard mk4 1.8t would have a chance against a gti6
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: turbokid23 on 17 June 2012, 23:07
Them sh!tty French things,, on way home from Drayton manor to day and a 106gti kick the sh!t out my golf but I was 4up,, stops and askd him Wots in that and he done a mi16 track 106 was rapid
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 17 June 2012, 23:21
Them sh!tty French things,, on way home from Drayton manor to day and a 106gti kick the sh!t out my golf but I was 4up,, stops and askd him Wots in that and he done a mi16 track 106 was rapid

!esaelp hsilgnE
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: moby on 17 June 2012, 23:45
i had a saxo vtr before me 1.8t n it was nifty dey are, it will leave a remapped golf in its dust on the straight n if deres corners no chance for the german shopping cart  :evil: but now i got a golf i see its all bout stickers slammin rubbin den takin loadsa pictures of your own cars but i aint got a camera yet  :cry:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Kus on 17 June 2012, 23:51

 id say a decent map on a mk4 1.8T would be quicker however the mk4 is a bit lardy..

if you have a mk4 with the K0s3 turbo, and have that mapped, the pug would have no chance, even more so if you fit a K04
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1+ i agree. a saxo vts isnt much slower than a gti6 1.8ts arnt too bad! there torquy which is what every1 forgets. just chavvy french owners love bhp! haha id happly race a gti 6 in mine and mines roughly around 200 bhp, dare i say a standard mk4 1.8t would have a chance against a gti6
[/quote]

Go to YouTube type gti-6 top gear that's all thank you

 :grin: I really hope you come across one

Could you take a pic of your face after you've raced one?
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: dan2252 on 18 June 2012, 00:17
you tube isnt real life :) ive done one better... as i said a saxo vts isnt much slower i was in the saxo. and that same saxo off the lights upto 40 is half a car lenght or maybe a full car behind my golf but once its going it has no chance, if you think a gti6 pulls like a train. honestly drive a 1.8t with around 200 bhp and i promise you, the gti6 will feel like a 1.0 litre corsa il take a pic of the gti6 drivers face when he looses with his 167 bhp and no torque and then his gay rear axle falls off..
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: daz veedub on 18 June 2012, 00:25
illl smoke ya gti6 all day
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: barrym381 on 18 June 2012, 00:27
illl smoke ya gti6 all day
me too while towin a 106  :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: optispart on 18 June 2012, 00:49
haha whilst towing 106 quality lol
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 18 June 2012, 01:31
wasnt it kus who started a thread on the gti6 last time or was it someone else hmmmmm  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: turbokid23 on 18 June 2012, 10:35
French cars am sh!t iv had 2, saxo vtr turbo, Reno 21turbo,, thay am quicker than the golf Untill I get it down r-tech
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Rhyso on 18 June 2012, 10:46
Pah

This will have the lot of your sh!t boxes  :evil:





















(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/fd67472d.jpg)

Cos you'll all be stopping for fuel  :kiss: :tongue: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 18 June 2012, 11:30
probably handles better to  :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Rhyso on 18 June 2012, 11:35
probably handles better to  :grin:

You're not far wrong; its a bit rolly but its a stubborn little thing in the corners; the Clio was much the same!
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 18 June 2012, 11:42
loved my old clio the under steer was quite scary in the wet though  :laugh:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: scarr89 on 18 June 2012, 11:51
loved my old clio the under steer was quite scary in the wet though  :laugh:

Conversion in car with your Mrs in awful condition.

'Cully darling are you actually going to turn for this corner or just drive head on?!'

'Honey I f**king am turning its the damn understeer!!!!'

*Crash in a ball of flames*
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: 1 gti on 18 June 2012, 11:52
I got a golf Anni which is 180 as standard. I had a dabble the other day and I was about 1 car length in front of the Gti-6. Very very similar powerwise though  :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 18 June 2012, 12:42
loved my old clio the under steer was quite scary in the wet though  :laugh:

Conversion in car with your Mrs in awful condition.

'Cully darling are you actually going to turn for this corner or just drive head on?!'

'Honey I f**king am turning its the damn understeer!!!!'

*Crash in a ball of flames*

oh it was shocking anything over 15mph in the wet was proper scary  :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 18 June 2012, 12:45
loved my old clio the under steer was quite scary in the wet though  :laugh:

Conversion in car with your Mrs in awful condition.

'Cully darling are you actually going to turn for this corner or just drive head on?!'

'Honey I f**king am turning its the damn understeer!!!!'

*Crash in a ball of flames*

oh it was shocking anything over 15mph in the wet was proper scary  :grin:

Lol - as was in my old escort mk 5, came close to crashing once with my mate in the car he alreayd had his hands over his face when I looked over  :grin:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Kus on 21 June 2012, 16:33
illl smoke ya gti6 all day

If yours is 200bhp or more then you might beat one Just
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 21 June 2012, 16:51
a K03 remapped would do that
let alone supporting mods, K03s, K04
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 21 June 2012, 16:57

 id say a decent map on a mk4 1.8T would be quicker however the mk4 is a bit lardy..

if you have a mk4 with the K0s3 turbo, and have that mapped, the pug would have no chance, even more so if you fit a K04

1+ i agree. a saxo vts isnt much slower than a gti6 1.8ts arnt too bad! there torquy which is what every1 forgets. just chavvy french owners love bhp! haha id happly race a gti 6 in mine and mines roughly around 200 bhp, dare i say a standard mk4 1.8t would have a chance against a gti6
[/quote]

Go to YouTube type gti-6 top gear that's all thank you

 :grin: I really hope you come across one

Could you take a pic of your face after you've raced one?
[/quote]

yes seen you tube and that golf is a 2.0 not the 1.8t
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Kus on 21 June 2012, 17:46
Are you def? He says 1.8 litres 20 valves a turbo ect zzzz bore off
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Kus on 21 June 2012, 17:47
Not arguing was just asking if it was as quick so I'd think about getting one but the handling is to dreadful I think :/
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 21 June 2012, 17:48
yes its a 1.8t in standard form when you start adding maps and mods etc its a different ball game
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Kus on 21 June 2012, 17:51
It's ££ though ain't it! It's fookin sh!te as standard

Il quote Clarkson ... "abit like the old golf,and that was about as sporty as actually playing golf"
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 21 June 2012, 17:54
what car have you got ?
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 21 June 2012, 17:58
Are you def? He says 1.8 litres 20 valves a turbo ect zzzz bore off

sorry my mistake :embarassed:

but spend £150 getting it remapped and it would be a very different race.
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: golf-sib on 21 June 2012, 18:01
Map + coolies is how it should of come as stock, a different ball game altogether.

From stock setup, add FMIC, braided hoses, good disc pad and brake fluid and it track ready to handle a lot of abuse. When I took stock owners out they get a shock of how little body roll, improved acceleration and how well it brakes.
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Kus on 21 June 2012, 18:38
Fmic what's that?
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 21 June 2012, 18:53
Front Mount InterCooler
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 21 June 2012, 18:54
FRONT MOUNT INTER COOLER (fmic) :wink:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 21 June 2012, 18:55
beat you to it cully lol :kiss:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 21 June 2012, 18:56
 :angry:  :kiss:  :grin:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Kus on 21 June 2012, 19:01
So how much €$£ we looking at for one?
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: cullygti on 21 June 2012, 19:06
anything from £180-£650 new and depends what you want
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: DunnDeal12 on 21 June 2012, 19:06
cheap poorly fitting one from toyosports on ebay £200+  or good fitting one from forge, THS performance & pro alloy £500+
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: Dsport on 21 June 2012, 19:29
Personally its not about the car its the driver,  :shocked:
I woundnt drive any french cr@p but have had 2 Astra Vxr,s they are pretty nippy, my mate has a vectra Vxr and I can keep with him where we drive and Im running 221 against his 255
Title: Re: Remapped 20vt Quick or?!
Post by: JimBR on 22 June 2012, 06:47
Regardless of speed, a golf will be a much nicer car to be in than a 90's 306.