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Title: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: nolandubholmes on 13 June 2012, 22:38
anybody got any links to a guide to building a VRT compressions and such wether u can do a straight bolt on just wanting to get as much info together as i can
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: leigh_harty on 13 June 2012, 23:12
Better of opening an overdraft and heading over to vr6oc they have alot of info  :smiley:
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: Wayne on 13 June 2012, 23:56
If your going to do it then do it right and it will not be cheap.
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 14 June 2012, 06:11
All you will ever need to know :)

http://www.vr6oc.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?139931
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: Len on 14 June 2012, 08:22
Usually supercharged rather than turbo'd, but then I havent bother to click on that link!
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2012, 09:04
Go turbo all day long. Supercharging is weak

 :smiley:
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 14 June 2012, 13:31
I do love the sound of a charger though.
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: Wayne on 14 June 2012, 13:47
I do love the sound of a charger though.

Agreed, they sound the nuts :cool:
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2012, 16:19
A lot of money to spend to  just to have a slipping fan belt noise  :laugh:

Good turbo set up sounds best but that's just my opinion  :nerd:
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: mrsaunders on 14 June 2012, 18:27
A lot of money to spend to  just to have a slipping fan belt noise  :laugh:

exactly my thought, can't stand the whining noise
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: tweed on 14 June 2012, 18:28
A vr6 turbo is by far a better sound than most cars in the world!
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=GB#/watch?v=FPJQVT4Ps2s (http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=GB#/watch?v=FPJQVT4Ps2s)
Go to 1.20
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2012, 18:37
A vr6 turbo is by far a better sound than most cars in the world!
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=GB#/watch?v=FPJQVT4Ps2s (http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=GB#/watch?v=FPJQVT4Ps2s)
Go to 1.20


here here  :smiley:
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: Dogbot on 15 June 2012, 09:13
Oh yes, An them is good for just under 500bhp on std internals, (according to Vr6oc)
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: Ess_Three on 15 June 2012, 10:26
Oh yes, An them is good for just under 500bhp on std internals, (according to Vr6oc)

Do you know anyone running anthing close to that on standard internals?

I have two mates with VR6Ts, one around 360BHP (FWD, in a Corrado), another over 480BHP (4WD in a Rallye)...both on forged pistons and rods, but a standard crank. Neither run spacer plates.
Neither would ever suggest you can get 500 BHP on standard pistons/rods.

Maybe you can...for a matter of minutes.

There is so much bullsh!t and 'apparently's on the internet...speak to those who have built them and it's neither easy or cheap.
But boy, are they quick once done.
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: Dogbot on 15 June 2012, 11:08
i Know someone running 320 on standard internals..... i wouldnt want to run more than that to be honest.....
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: F17BAD on 15 June 2012, 19:39
gonna have to agree with Ess_Three

id say any more than 300 is pushing it on standard
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: tweed on 16 June 2012, 17:23
They suffer from heat as it is!
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: leigh_harty on 16 June 2012, 17:44
My mate runs 340 low boost and thats how the car has been for the past 4-5 years. Standard engine but with spacer plate

Engine has only ever failed due to a broken pump fin blocking a vein.

How much you trust it is another thing....
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: 16valver dan on 16 June 2012, 22:35
Mines gonna be running around 325-350 on standard internals with plate and custom fan set up
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: nolandubholmes on 17 June 2012, 11:41
I'm going for 290-300 pointless anymore than that in a fwd car I used to have a 2.1 16v fiesta turbo that was mental and running 30psi and 328 hp but u just can't get the grip down even running slicks it would spin them up even with the extra weight of the vr over the front wheels I still think grip will suffer on another note who's the best mapper for all these vrts or are people running different management mega jolt mega squirt for ex
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: tweed on 17 June 2012, 13:01
I'm going for 290-300 pointless anymore than that in a fwd car I used to have a 2.1 16v fiesta turbo that was mental and running 30psi and 328 hp but u just can't get the grip down even running slicks it would spin them up even with the extra weight of the vr over the front wheels I still think grip will suffer on another note who's the best mapper for all these vrts or are people running different management mega jolt mega squirt for ex


Yep this is why I scrapped the idea of building one. If it was in a 4wd then go for big power but fwd is pointless fun  :grin:
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: 16valver dan on 17 June 2012, 15:32
I'm going for 290-300 pointless anymore than that in a fwd car I used to have a 2.1 16v fiesta turbo that was mental and running 30psi and 328 hp but u just can't get the grip down even running slicks it would spin them up even with the extra weight of the vr over the front wheels I still think grip will suffer on another note who's the best mapper for all these vrts or are people running different management mega jolt mega squirt for ex

I got told emerald management good value for product
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: jnufcuk on 17 June 2012, 16:07
Would love to turbo my vr but looking like it will b too expensive  :sad: engine has done 128k+ so prob not wise anyway.
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: nolandubholmes on 17 June 2012, 16:38
Ud prob be suprised just run in vrs at 100k haha I've seen a few turbod ones at 150k plus
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: Dogbot on 17 June 2012, 21:45
I've seen vr bores still showing the honing marks at 170k..... This 100k myth has to be the funniest thing still hanging around from the old engineering days, the tolerances and material quality has improved so much it's almost not worth worrying about provided its been serviced correctly
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: Wayne on 17 June 2012, 21:48
This 100k myth has to be the funniest thing still hanging around from the old engineering days

The main issue with VR's is the cam chains, they do seem to give issues around 100k.
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: Dogbot on 17 June 2012, 22:51
This 100k myth has to be the funniest thing still hanging around from the old engineering days

The main issue with VR's is the cam chains, they do seem to give issues around 100k.

Yes, you are obviously quite right, No dispute from me on that one! i just meant recently ive had this type of comment from a few people i know that have vag cars that are approaching the 100k mark, an they seem to be under the impression that they will just fail to work and go band... lol :laugh:
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: dubstar9 on 18 June 2012, 08:36
I still remember a Top Gear topic going back to the original Top Gear (before May and Hammond) where the compared two Golf Mk2 GTi's, one with delivery mileage and the other with 80k and both in standard spec. Sat them at the begin of a runway and the blasted them off the line and the 80k car was a whole lot quicker and Top Gear said stated that VW's of the time aren't really run in until 80k!!!
Title: Re: vr6 turbo ??
Post by: Ess_Three on 18 June 2012, 13:13
I'm going for 290-300 pointless anymore than that in a fwd car

I dissagree.
300+ is pointless in a car with a crap chassis and little ability to put the power down.

Put 300BHP+ into a Mk5/6 GTI and it will do a fine job of putting the power down.
In a Mk3...it will be hopeless.