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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: mkviken on 06 June 2012, 20:29
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Don't think there are any suspension comparison threads on here so decided to start one.
whats your set up your running?
how does it feel/look/compare to standard or any other kits you tried?
any photos and descriptions of whats fitted would be good.
i'll start by showing off My Bilstein B12 kit came this afternoon. I got cracking fitting the rear end tonight. will be fitting the fronts tomorrow if its dry.
First impressions are pretty damn good. the quality of the bilstein struts is superb and you can't go wrong with eibach from my experience. You can tell they're a top piece of kit. can't wait to test drive them once fitted.
(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h456/elbowsg450x/d73a43dc.jpg)
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will post some photos when the fronts are fitted and its had a chance to settle.
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Yes top piece of kit the Billy's :smiley:
I have the Ps10s fitted and it hugs the road so much better than the KWs I had on,
You'll love em :wink:
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looking forward to getting some miles on them and getting the alignment sorted as my whittling bump steer kit as thrown my alignment out a lot.
once this is done (WALK, WL BS kit and B12) it should be a damn fine handling car.
maybe a WL rear sway bar on the cards too and then that will be it sorted. just the brakes to take care of now
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looking forward to getting some miles on them and getting the alignment sorted as my whittling bump steer kit as thrown my alignment out a lot.
once this is done (WALK, WL BS kit and B12) it should be a damn fine handling car.
maybe a WL rear sway bar on the cards too and then that will be it sorted. just the brakes to take care of now
and then stage 2 :cool: 2+
where does it stopppppppp!
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maybe just maybe i may get a down pipe to go with my cat back if i can be arsed one day but the outright power isn't really an issue for me - i think stage 1 is enough without ruining the cars usability/quietness etc.
i just wanted a more involving car to drive which is why I've invested a lot in suspension.
i know what your saying thought theres always something to bolt on.
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Where will it all end :laugh: :grin:
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with a BIG credit card bill, a car I'm bored with then a search for something new probably.... :rolleyes: :laugh:
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The kit looks the nuts, be good to see it once it's settled a little.... :cool:
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front fitted today. p!ssed down all afternoon but got there in the end!
WALK and bump steer kit
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some poor iPhone photos. can't really get a proper idea from these but will take some more with a real camera.
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took it for a test drive once sorted (despite the rain! :angry:) and first impressions are the damping is excellent, the initial turn in is much better and sharper, the ride is no worse than standard - its firm cut very well controlled where i found the OEM suspension a bit crash, especially the rear. i will stick another 100 miles or so on it then get the alignment done and get a proper idea of the changes
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Very nice.
That fine rain this afternoon was a pain I had the contents of the home garage and container on the drive to sort it all out this morning, A lot of its wet now :angry:
Your cars far too clean underneath lol. :cool:
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some better pictures. got around 150 miles on the car now so it seems to have settled.
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That car looks very wet , just saying like :grin:
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yep pretty much the first time ever ever had to use the wipers. don't worry i will jack it up at the weekend and clean under it
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Looks like a small prang there on the wing ? :undecided:
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think your mistaken
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She sits so proudly now on the monza's(http://www.websmileys.com/sm/fingers/fing32.gif)
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i wanted to change them for some OZ superturismo LM's or ultraleggeras or something but just can't bring myself to remove the monza's!
they weigh a fricking tonne but look too nice to swap :undecided:
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i wanted to change them for some OZ superturismo LM's or ultraleggeras or something but just can't bring myself to remove the monza's!
they weigh a fricking tonne but look too nice to swap :undecided:
Sorry, I don't think you spoke clear english with that last remark! :laugh:
What! Getting or even thinking on getting rid is just madness and cus it's a friday are presume you've been drinking.. :laugh:
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:laugh: just a few light ales :wink:
i agree though - IMO a GTI isn't a GTI unless it has monza's (sorry to all the glendale brigade :rolleyes:)
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they weigh a fricking tonne but look too nice to swap :undecided:
Took mine off to clean the inside and nearly gave myself a hernia :grin: you're not wrong they are bloody heavy!
Suspension mods look good, has it made the ride crashy at low speeds?
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Cheers
No I can definately say there's is no worse than standard. It's just as firm but not as crashy as standard and not as bouncy at the rear
The main reason I we t for this kit was for real world performance and comfort. It is very good so far I'm well pleased
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I take it by changing the suspension this would negate the ACC? If I was to get a decent set up like this would there be any coding I would need to sort out or would I just have to leave the button alone?
I must say I think going from the Clio 197 with cup springs I think the Golf is like driving on a cloud especially when stuck in comfort mode.
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I came from a clip 197 also and Im the same. I feel the GTI is extremely vague in comparison.
Off you have ACC you can still fit suspension kits. Some kits are specific for ACC cars so I guess they must come with a plug for the worse going to the shocks or something
I'm waiting for my whiteline anti roll bar to arrive to hopefully sharpen the GTI up a bit more. I can't help this niggling feeling I should have bought the megane instead.
You will be pleased with the difference the suspension kit makes though if you fit it
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Im sure you would be disappointed with the megane as the build quality is no where near the level of the golf. Power is immense but again the ride is so hard and race tuned that it doesnt make for an all round epic car.
Could you change the anti roll bars and buy things like strut braces to try and tighten the whole ride up or would it just feel the same?
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ride quality isn't really affected by anti roll bars too much.
im 100% happy with the cars ride and comfort with the bilsteins. they are on a different planet compared to the crashy OEM suspension. i can't recommend them enough.
the standard sway bars are very soft - the rear feels especially soft and just gets dragged round by the front. its not very mobile at the rear. the golf does lean a hell of lot, even with better suspension so stiffer bars should sharpen things up nicely i hope. i went for 3 way adjustable type so i can try and suit it to what I'm after better.
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ride quality isn't really affected by anti roll bars too much.
im 100% happy with the cars ride and comfort with the bilsteins. they are on a different planet compared to the crashy OEM suspension. i can't recommend them enough.
the standard sway bars are very soft - the rear feels especially soft and just gets dragged round by the front. its not very mobile at the rear. the golf does lean a hell of lot, even with better suspension so stiffer bars should sharpen things up nicely i hope. i went for 3 way adjustable type so i can try and suit it to what I'm after better.
I find that ACC in 'Sport' makes the rear come alive...you can really make it move. Add to this the more aggressive steering and it really livens up the chassis. But, it makes the ride a shade too firm on all but the smoothest roads.
I can see how a decent rear ARB would give the same effect, but without the ride harshness.
I think for my set-up, a bigger rear ARB, ACC in 'Normal' and some means of having the 'Sport' steering setting in 'normal' would be ideal.
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fitted the whiteline rear anti roll bar today. a very well made kit including lateral lock system and poly bushes etc
I've set it on soft which is around 60% stiffer than standard.
very easy to fit - put it on ramps (so wheels were weighted) and it was very straight forward. end links look more suited length for medium position but i think medium will be too sharp.
initial impressions are good. the car is just as compliant and comfortable to drive but has much less initial understeer.
i had a mess around on a few wet roundabouts to try it out and the tail is a lot more playful but in no way snappy so I'm very pleased. my clio 182 back end was pretty knife edge especially in the wet but this is not where near that sharp so the car has kept its grown up character just made slightly more interactive.
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Nice one. I've been considering ARB's for a while. Trying to decide whether to go front and rear, like I had on my A3, or just rear
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I've gone for just the rear for now. will fit a front one if i ever drop the subframe in the future. its not a job i fancy doing on the driveway to be honest and I've just had my wheel alignment done so in no hurry to be honest..
so far I've found rear only on soft (23mm equivalent) is not a drastic change and feels just fine with the OEM front.
the standard rear is equivalent to 20.45mm solid bar.
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anyone care to update this thread?
Obviously people on here are running all different makes of kits and some have gone further than others with modifications.
Would be good to see different suspension set-ups all in one place to compare them.
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What was the cost of all this my friend? Had a scan couldn't see a price :whistle:
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of the top of my head
WALK - £150 ish
bump steer kit £130 ish
B12 kit £630
sway bar £160 ish
alignment £70