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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: mojo555 on 05 June 2012, 09:59
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http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/scoop/new-golf-gti-gets-260bhp
Sorry if already posted but did look and can't see anything...
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260bhp :shocked: very doubtful tho...
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260bhp :shocked: very doubtful tho...
There's more chance of it costing less than £20k than it having 260BHP
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Why won't the Mk7 have 260BHP ? The GTI needs to keep up with your VX's, Renault, Mazda, Beemers to name just a few!
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I don't VW think about keeping up with other marques, it'll have 220-225hp imo with the R coming later with 280ish although both should be lighter so should have a decent power to weight ratio.
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I think someone at Autocar misheard 216 for 260bhp :laugh:
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260bhp :shocked: very doubtful tho...
There's more chance of it costing less than £20k than it having 260BHP
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Those exhausts are smaller than on ours now!
If they gave it 260 hp the value of the current R would drop like a stone, can't imagine VW letting that happen!
The ED40 may have 260hp...220 as standard, 40 more for the special :smiley:
Also, what was the last 'scoop' that Autocar had that they were right with their predictions about!?
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It'll have 220bhp Or just under prolly 218..... I would bet money on this. There's more chance of me winning tonights 100million on the euro millions then the gti having 260bhp standard.
Sometimes I sit and wonder if the person writing these articles is in a special needs class at the time
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There was an article in auto express saying the bhp on the new GTI will be higher than first thought so it can compete with Ford and Vux
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There was an article in auto express saying the bhp on the new GTI will be higher than first thought so it can compete with Ford and Vux
Again I don't believe this either. Since when have VW chased the BHP of its competitors? The VXR is going to be a torque steering monster and the ST is going to be quicker but what do VW care?
The GTI will have less power than them all but it won't stop the likes of us getting one as GTI owners want an all rounder.....
Jim
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There was an article in auto express saying the bhp on the new GTI will be higher than first thought so it can compete with Ford and Vux
Again I don't believe this either. Since when have VW chased the BHP of its competitors? The VXR is going to be a torque steering monster and the ST is going to be quicker but what do VW care?
The GTI will have less power than them all but it won't stop the likes of us getting one as GTI owners want an all rounder.....
Jim
^^ +1
I was just about to post on this, but then you just said it all.
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I agree about extra power in the mk7.I have yet to push mine to anywhere near its full potential so would never be tempted to go for a Ford or Vauxhall because they are faster,it's the all round package and heritage of being the original hot hatch that the other makes only dream of.I never look at one of these wishing I had one.
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Also don't forget the manufacturers have to limit CO2 emissions from 2015 to 130g/km, otherwise they will pay a lot of money as a penalty (90 euro for each gram above that for each car). 260 bhp will produce a lot more CO2 than 220...
R with 270 bhp (with an old engine) makes 190 g/km, that's 5400 euro per car.
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The GTI will have less power than them all but it won't stop the likes of us getting one as GTI owners want an all rounder.....
Wrong - it WILL put me off because I'll have got to the point when I'm no longer convinced of the "value" of a near £30k VW "hot" hatch when there's far better/classier machinery around for the same money.
See previous discussion on the BMW 135, for example.
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VW will price the GTI just right. They always do.
Herr/Frau VW ain't daft.
Targeted above Ford/French/mainstream Japanese/Opel and below other German marques.
Better and classier machinery around? You'll be very interested come 2013/14.
135 :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
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VW will price the GTI just right. They always do.
Herr/Frau VW ain't daft.
Targeted above Ford/French/mainstream Japanese/Opel and below other German marques.
Better and classier machinery around? You'll be very interested come 2013/14.
135 :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
+1
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The GTI will have less power than them all but it won't stop the likes of us getting one as GTI owners want an all rounder.....
Wrong - it WILL put me off because I'll have got to the point when I'm no longer convinced of the "value" of a near £30k VW "hot" hatch when there's far better/classier machinery around for the same money.
See previous discussion on the BMW 135, for example.
Whilst I wrote that quote, I also agree with you. I for one will not be getting a MK7 GTI, M135i seems to be a massive amount of fun/power for your money.
Jim
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I won't be gettig a mk7. No way. I like my car but it's not worth £27300. Can't help but feel I could have done ALOT better for the money.
They're going in the right direction if they make it 100kg lighter but they can't justify the price they're asking. The competion is moving forward at a quicker pace now in terms of quality, value and driving/ownership.
Ford are right on the money recently and the new ST will take some beating for value/build/performance and drive. the new clio sport is due, a new megane sport won't be far behind that, BMW m135i is excellent value and will be a real performance car as well as practical.
I wouldn't be laying IRO £30k for a hatch back again in a hurry but if I do it will be the Beemer or save myself £15k and get another Clio or 2.
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I agree about extra power in the mk7.I have yet to push mine to anywhere near its full potential so would never be tempted to go for a Ford or Vauxhall because they are faster,it's the all round package and heritage of being the original hot hatch that the other makes only dream of.I never look at one of these wishing I had one.
I must be different. Every time I see a RS265/RS250 or focus RS I always think to myself he's having more fun than me for less money. :huh:
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I agree about extra power in the mk7.I have yet to push mine to anywhere near its full potential so would never be tempted to go for a Ford or Vauxhall because they are faster,it's the all round package and heritage of being the original hot hatch that the other makes only dream of.I never look at one of these wishing I had one.
I must be different. Every time I see a RS265/RS250 or focus RS I always think to myself he's having more fun than me for less money. :huh:
Pre-map this was my thought but after remapping my GTI I was very pleased with it.
However, I reckon that the cat has already been (to some extent) pulled out of the bag. The forthcoming Polo WRC (which I believe is to be a stage below the forthcoming Polo R) was previewed at Worthersee with the 2.0 engine from the Golf GTI. At first this might not seem too strange or unusual or indeed relevant - except that the engine is a 225bhp 2.0 TSI (Turbocharged and Supercharged) lump.
For me this is the strongest indication thus far concerning the forthcoming Mk7 GTI. The Polo WRC is too insignificant a model for VW to research and develop a twin-charged 230bhp engine. I reckon that this lump may find it's way under the Mk7 GTI's bonnet.
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You will probably find that performance wise there will not be much between the std cars (all the hot hatch range). But economy will be huge factor in peoples choices.... this is how the GTI will ensure it remains top of the tree.
As penguin said above... I expect vw to use some clever technology to ensure the GTI remains the best allrounder rather than the quickest as previously. Lets just hope they dont continue to lock ecu's or will see a large number of followers move to used rather than new cars.
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IMO the turbo/supercharger combined engine is asking for trouble. i wouldn't dare own one after the warranty runs out. i really hope the next GTI doesn't have that engine.
if they can knock 100kg off and make the car IRO 1300kg then it will be a good improvement even with the current model engine and it will improve MPG and co2 etc.
instead of fannying around with daft engine aspiration configurations they could much easier and cheaper save some weight and improve every aspect of the car.
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Yes VW will carry on with having the best all rounder and best on fuel etc and anyone who wants a car thats one of the best round a track go elsewhere as the GTI has never been a great track car without mods. Its just a great allrounder.
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IMO the turbo/supercharger combined engine is asking for trouble. i wouldn't dare own one after the warranty runs out. i really hope the next GTI doesn't have that engine.
if they can knock 100kg off and make the car IRO 1300kg then it will be a good improvement even with the current model engine and it will improve MPG and co2 etc.
instead of fannying around with daft engine aspiration configurations they could much easier and cheaper save some weight and improve every aspect of the car.
I know exactly where you're coming from, I'd be hard pushed to keep this car after warranty with the trouble I've had already, let alone bolt a supercharger on there as well to go wrong :sad: asking for trouble, when they could easily produce 230 without a charger with a slightly larger turbo (de-tuned K04?)
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i think they're going in the right direction with the aluminium roof and bonnet etc.
remember stuff like impreza's (old ones) only weight 1250kg or something and were like sh!t off a stick with just 200bhp so if the golf can shed that weight it will be pretty quick and better handling, better economy, better tyre and brake wear etc etc
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the fact that its pretty slow to start off with makes it a great project for modding also... :grin:
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the fact that its pretty slow to start off with makes it a great project for modding also... :grin:
Yeah but if the ECU's are locked then it's not exactly the most encouraging start :roll eyes:
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I must be different. Every time I see a RS265/RS250 or focus RS I always think to myself he's having more fun than me for less money. :huh:
True...
And one of the reasons I'll be looking at the new Astra VXR.
It looks pretty good, it'll drives very well (based on the lesser 'new' Astras), has more power than a remapped GTI, Xenons standard, adjustable damping standard, Recaro seats standard, a proper LSD, torque-steer limiting front suspension (lacking on a GTI!)...and for less than a GTI.
I bet it's paint doesn't fall off if you look at it, either.
Hmm...
If it doesn't look too 'Chavvy' in the metal...then I'll be having a close look.
It'll be a lot of car for the money.
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As a GTD driver, I would like to point out that not everyone is after ultimate performance. There are are other factors :wink:
If they make the MK7 100kg lighter and add another 20 horsies and 10% more MPG - then I will definitely consider buying another MK7 GTD :evil:
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I've made up my mind already as I want a convertible GT loaded up so will be trading in my GTI or selling later this year.
Have read that the man responsible for Fords sport models is now working at VW and has had a big say on it's development. - Edit ( on the GTI model )
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As a GTD driver, I would like to point out that not everyone is after ultimate performance. There are are other factors :wink:
If they make the MK7 100kg lighter and add another 20 horsies and 10% more MPG - then I will definitely consider buying another MK7 GTD :evil:
Nobody's saying it is all about performance but to be honest it is all about performance. I'm not talking 0-60 but performance of the package as a whole.
Take this response:
I must be different. Every time I see a RS265/RS250 or focus RS I always think to myself he's having more fun than me for less money. :huh:
True...
And one of the reasons I'll be looking at the new Astra VXR.
It looks pretty good, it'll drives very well (based on the lesser 'new' Astras), has more power than a remapped GTI, Xenons standard, adjustable damping standard, Recaro seats standard, a proper LSD, torque-steer limiting front suspension (lacking on a GTI!)...and for less than a GTI.
I bet it's paint doesn't fall off if you look at it, either.
Hmm...
If it doesn't look too 'Chavvy' in the metal...then I'll be having a close look.
It'll be a lot of car for the money.
Ess_Three's not looking at the VXR because of the quicker 0-60 time (although it is a factor) but instead because the Astra might well hit more bases than the GTI as an overall package. Mechanically it looks to be better equipped, more powerful, more purposefully set up and still cheaper.
Going back to what you've said:
If they make the MK7 100kg lighter and add another 20 horsies and 10% more MPG - then I will definitely consider buying another MK7 GTD :evil:
These aren't bad things, but the issue seems to be that the competition is doing more than just 10% improvements.
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I wouldn't be seen dead in a VXR, i don't care if the GTI has less power or costs more, id rarther keep the car ive got than get a VXR. Vile cars Astras imo. If power and price is what its all about what the hell did mk6 GTI owners buy their car for when they could have bought a vxr with 240 ps for a lot less than a mk6 GTI.
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I wouldn't be seen dead in a VXR, i don't care if the GTI has less power or costs more, id rarther keep the car ive got than get a VXR. Vile cars Astras imo. If power and price is what its all about what the hell did mk6 GTI owners buy their car for when they could have bought a vxr with 240 ps for a lot less than a mk6 GTI.
It's a fair point but when the Mk6 was released the Astra VXR was already a little bit long in the tooth and only offered a 27bhp increase over the GTI. Fair enough the VXR had been released long enough to offer some pretty discounts but when I personally bought my Mk6 the MK6 GTI was a £20k+ car rather than a 'just under £30k' car.
The Mk6 also followed closely enough from the Mk5 to enjoy some time near the top of the hot hatch table. It was never the most powerful but it's power deficit was not enough to alienate it from the competition.
Now however the game has changed significantly. The Mk6 is a 'just under £30k' car (£30k+ even depending on spec). I don't imagine the Mk7 will be much cheaper. In addition the competition has all stepped up. Don't get me wrong the GTI is still a potent performer and plenty capable but when it's up against competition with between 50-100bhp* more you have to wonder why VW is holding out.
*Of course some might argue that the more performance oriented hot hatches are not direct competitors to the GTI but the fact remains that they are still hatchbacks and that they are much hotter. Even the forthcoming Mercedes A Class AMG is potentially a rival to the GTI in that it offers serious pace, decent room and a bit of class for roughly the same money.
VW could end this thread (and the others like it) if they just gave the GTI the power it deserves from the factory.
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There's always Aldi for those who the badge means so much.
I even like the Megane. And it's French.
But then again...I bought a Skoda. And everyone knows thay are crap. Oh hang on...its paint was better than my Mk6 and the mats wore out less quickly. :lipsrsealed:
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There's always Aldi for those who the badge means so much.
I even like the Megane. And it's French.
But then again...I bought a Skoda. And everyone knows thay are crap. Oh hang on...its paint was better than my Mk6 and the mats wore out less quickly. :lipsrsealed:
Then theres the Yeti waiting list 11 months some people been waiting :sick: :sick:
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There's always Aldi for those who the badge means so much.
I even like the Megane. And it's French.
But then again...I bought a Skoda. And everyone knows thay are crap. Oh hang on...its paint was better than my Mk6 and the mats wore out less quickly. :lipsrsealed:
Then theres the Yeti waiting list 11 months some people been waiting :sick: :sick:
:lipsrsealed: :grin: :grin:
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i think they're going in the right direction with the aluminium roof and bonnet etc.
remember stuff like impreza's (old ones) only weight 1250kg or something and were like sh!t off a stick with just 200bhp so if the golf can shed that weight it will be pretty quick and better handling, better economy, better tyre and brake wear etc etc
My first imported Integra Type-R was 1060kgs and 197bhp, albeit it had been mildly modded too for a few more hp and it did feel very quick. I also had a supercharged Civic Type-R with a supercharger producing 285bhp with a 1260 kg weight, again ridiculously fast.
The Golf drew my in for exactly all the reasons a few others have said as its a brilliant all round car which my wife will happily drive as her daily, where the Hondas just made her moan :rolleyes:
I do feel it's slightly lacking performance wise in standard trim, but from what I have read the remap will change that, which is ideal.
If the Mk7 can build on the Mk6 with a reduced kerb weight I can't see it upsetting the enthusiasts who follow the marque, be interesting to see the differences made, I wonder if the new A3 will give any clues?
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My budget is, tops, about £25k so a new GTi will be out of the question for me next time. Nearly new is the best I will be able to hope for. Which also means I will look at nearly new other makes for £25k.
And therein lies the problem. Maybe I'm wrong but I always thought the Golf GTi was a sporty hatch for those who aspired to something a bit better than then norm but still needed a good all rounder. That's why I bought my first GTi (a Mk3) and have since bought 2 Mk4s a Mk6 and 2 Mk2s, the second of which (the 16v in my signature) I still think is a fantastic car. However, at nearly £30k the Golf GTi is no longer such a car - it's a very expensive high value car which competes directly with BMW, Audi, Mercedes et al. This has always been my beef with VW, mostly due to the fact that they have priced me out of a car I always loved. Which p****s me off!!!!!!
Also, as I've always said, I will look at the whole market when it comes to change. Unfortunately, it's several years off yet so I might not even be able to afford a nearly new GTi which is where the ST, VXR etc. will inevitably come in to the equation.
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It will be a mk7 gti for me, if over 26.5k i'll go the next class up to a BMW
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It will be over £26.5k. It's nearly that already!!!
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The GTI has one main problem, and its had the same main problem since 1992. It's called the VR or R model. The GTI is restricted power wise since the mk3 because of this model.
Vw will never give the GTI other model rival power because it has to allow for the R.
If vw is playing twin charger its a waste a properly designed turbo engine can give you all you need other firms manage it a twin charger is just a fudge for poor design. It's also from what I hear not the most reliable design in the 1.4 so if they still cannot get that right...
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It will be over £26.5k. It's nearly that already!!!
True, i should have said around that price so i'll prob not bother, or keep the one iv'e got or go BMW
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I just saw this ?
The future generation of the Volkswagen Golf GTI will get an impressive 260 BHP from the 2.0 liter turbocharged petrol engine.
According to the guys at autocar.co.uk, the future generation of the Volkswagen Golf GTI will be lighter than the current one and the model will even drive around the Nurburgring faster than the current GTI even if the model won’t have any extra power. The Volkswagen Golf VII GTI will be more powerful than the current one and the model will get a 2.0 liter four-cylinder turbocharged petrol engine, which will generate a total output of 260 BHP, which is less than one of its main rivals, the Opel Astra OPC, with its 280 horsepower.
While the new Opel Astra OPC has 280 horsepower and front-wheel drive, the upcoming Volkswagen Golf GTI is expected to be more fun to drive and faster around the corners thanks to the 4MOTION all-wheel drive technology which will be fitted onto it. The Volkswagen Golf MK7 GTI will be the second model based on the company’s new MQB architecture, after the new Audi A3, and the model will be officially presented to the public during the 2012 Paris Motor Show in September, before hitting the market early next year. More details on the future Golf GTI will be announced in autumn, during the French automotive event.
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I just saw this ?
The future generation of the Volkswagen Golf GTI will get an impressive 260 BHP from the 2.0 liter turbocharged petrol engine.
According to the guys at autocar.co.uk, the future generation of the Volkswagen Golf GTI will be lighter than the current one and the model will even drive around the Nurburgring faster than the current GTI even if the model won’t have any extra power. The Volkswagen Golf VII GTI will be more powerful than the current one and the model will get a 2.0 liter four-cylinder turbocharged petrol engine, which will generate a total output of 260 BHP, which is less than one of its main rivals, the Opel Astra OPC, with its 280 horsepower.
While the new Opel Astra OPC has 280 horsepower and front-wheel drive, the upcoming Volkswagen Golf GTI is expected to be more fun to drive and faster around the corners thanks to the 4MOTION all-wheel drive technology which will be fitted onto it. The Volkswagen Golf MK7 GTI will be the second model based on the company’s new MQB architecture, after the new Audi A3, and the model will be officially presented to the public during the 2012 Paris Motor Show in September, before hitting the market early next year. More details on the future Golf GTI will be announced in autumn, during the French automotive event.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/scoop/new-golf-gti-gets-260bhp
Been said already Steve..OP, I remember someone saying " when was the last time Autocar rit something that was correct"
I remember cus it made me chuckle.. :laugh:
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Check out Autoexpress this week, it looks closer to the truth!!!!!
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I just saw this ?
The future generation of the Volkswagen Golf GTI will get an impressive 260 BHP from the 2.0 liter turbocharged petrol engine.
According to the guys at autocar.co.uk, the future generation of the Volkswagen Golf GTI will be lighter than the current one and the model will even drive around the Nurburgring faster than the current GTI even if the model won’t have any extra power. The Volkswagen Golf VII GTI will be more powerful than the current one and the model will get a 2.0 liter four-cylinder turbocharged petrol engine, which will generate a total output of 260 BHP, which is less than one of its main rivals, the Opel Astra OPC, with its 280 horsepower.
While the new Opel Astra OPC has 280 horsepower and front-wheel drive, the upcoming Volkswagen Golf GTI is expected to be more fun to drive and faster around the corners thanks to the 4MOTION all-wheel drive technology which will be fitted onto it. The Volkswagen Golf MK7 GTI will be the second model based on the company’s new MQB architecture, after the new Audi A3, and the model will be officially presented to the public during the 2012 Paris Motor Show in September, before hitting the market early next year. More details on the future Golf GTI will be announced in autumn, during the French automotive event.
In less words,
The Mk7 GTI will be essentially a Mk6 R with 5 hp less.
:rolleyes:
Not a chance.
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I just saw this ?
The future generation of the Volkswagen Golf GTI will get an impressive 260 BHP from the 2.0 liter turbocharged petrol engine.
According to the guys at autocar.co.uk, the future generation of the Volkswagen Golf GTI will be lighter than the current one and the model will even drive around the Nurburgring faster than the current GTI even if the model won’t have any extra power. The Volkswagen Golf VII GTI will be more powerful than the current one and the model will get a 2.0 liter four-cylinder turbocharged petrol engine, which will generate a total output of 260 BHP, which is less than one of its main rivals, the Opel Astra OPC, with its 280 horsepower.
While the new Opel Astra OPC has 280 horsepower and front-wheel drive, the upcoming Volkswagen Golf GTI is expected to be more fun to drive and faster around the corners thanks to the 4MOTION all-wheel drive technology which will be fitted onto it. The Volkswagen Golf MK7 GTI will be the second model based on the company’s new MQB architecture, after the new Audi A3, and the model will be officially presented to the public during the 2012 Paris Motor Show in September, before hitting the market early next year. More details on the future Golf GTI will be announced in autumn, during the French automotive event.
In less words,
The Mk7 GTI will be essentially a Mk6 R with 5 hp less.
:rolleyes:
Not a chance.
Yes it will sources across Europe are writing about the 260bhp GTI as well
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Well your gti's will suddenly be worth f**kall, and god knows what it'de do to the value of my R!
Not this side of Sunday I'm afraid... U think the new gti will gain 50bhp, the new S3 is rumoured to be 280bhp
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Check out Autoexpress this week, it looks closer to the truth!!!!!
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/284149/new_vw_golf_gti.html
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Goin off the pics in the article,it does nothin for me,looks like the latest cliosport IMO
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I just saw this ?
The future generation of the Volkswagen Golf GTI will get an impressive 260 BHP from the 2.0 liter turbocharged petrol engine.
According to the guys at autocar.co.uk, the future generation of the Volkswagen Golf GTI will be lighter than the current one and the model will even drive around the Nurburgring faster than the current GTI even if the model won’t have any extra power. The Volkswagen Golf VII GTI will be more powerful than the current one and the model will get a 2.0 liter four-cylinder turbocharged petrol engine, which will generate a total output of 260 BHP, which is less than one of its main rivals, the Opel Astra OPC, with its 280 horsepower.
While the new Opel Astra OPC has 280 horsepower and front-wheel drive, the upcoming Volkswagen Golf GTI is expected to be more fun to drive and faster around the corners thanks to the 4MOTION all-wheel drive technology which will be fitted onto it. The Volkswagen Golf MK7 GTI will be the second model based on the company’s new MQB architecture, after the new Audi A3, and the model will be officially presented to the public during the 2012 Paris Motor Show in September, before hitting the market early next year. More details on the future Golf GTI will be announced in autumn, during the French automotive event.
In less words,
The Mk7 GTI will be essentially a Mk6 R with 5 hp less.
:rolleyes:
Not a chance.
How do you know it wont have 260 because your going by the R ?
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Was there not a rumour of the next Golf R having 300bhp?
How would a 260bhp GTI put the power down through front wheel drive only?
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Goin off the pics in the article,it does nothin for me,looks like the latest cliosport IMO
It's a pants render... it won't look anything like that!
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How would a 260bhp GTI put the power down through front wheel drive only?
Volkswagen will look to a new type of front differential to keep the power boost from making the GTI too much of a handful. The differential, dubbed VAQ, is an electronically controlled clutch-type unit, and is similar to those employed in a Haldex all-wheel-drive setup in cars like the Golf R
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the key is without doubt making it lighter and improving handling... :cool:
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I just saw this ?
The future generation of the Volkswagen Golf GTI will get an impressive 260 BHP from the 2.0 liter turbocharged petrol engine.
According to the guys at autocar.co.uk, the future generation of the Volkswagen Golf GTI will be lighter than the current one and the model will even drive around the Nurburgring faster than the current GTI even if the model won’t have any extra power. The Volkswagen Golf VII GTI will be more powerful than the current one and the model will get a 2.0 liter four-cylinder turbocharged petrol engine, which will generate a total output of 260 BHP, which is less than one of its main rivals, the Opel Astra OPC, with its 280 horsepower.
While the new Opel Astra OPC has 280 horsepower and front-wheel drive, the upcoming Volkswagen Golf GTI is expected to be more fun to drive and faster around the corners thanks to the 4MOTION all-wheel drive technology which will be fitted onto it. The Volkswagen Golf MK7 GTI will be the second model based on the company’s new MQB architecture, after the new Audi A3, and the model will be officially presented to the public during the 2012 Paris Motor Show in September, before hitting the market early next year. More details on the future Golf GTI will be announced in autumn, during the French automotive event.
In less words,
The Mk7 GTI will be essentially a Mk6 R with 5 hp less.
:rolleyes:
Not a chance.
How do you know it wont have 260 because your going by the R ?
Because numerous sources have already suggested the next S3 will have in the region of 270-280bhp. There's very little chance that the boffins in Germany will let the VW R steal the thunder of the hot Audi so I'd imagine the R will be very similar if not slightly less. And there's even less chance that the boffins will let the GTI steal the thunder of the R so the GTI will be pitched a good bit below both the R and Audi models.
As much as I'd like the GTI to have 260hp I think to expect such would be unrealistic. The 240bhp suggested by the article mentioned above is much more likely and, IMO, actually more appropriate for the GTI.
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Goin off the pics in the article,it does nothin for me,looks like the latest cliosport IMO
It's a pants render... it won't look anything like that!
Yep, the worst bit about that article is the proposed look of the car. Looks like an early 00's Hyundai or Kia
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Goin off the pics in the article,it does nothin for me,looks like the latest cliosport IMO
It's a pants render... it won't look anything like that!
Yep, the worst bit about that article is the proposed look of the car. Looks like an early 00's Hyundai or Kia
Like the back end of the current Kia Venga :lipsrsealed:.. Hidious
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It will be a mk7 gti for me, if over 26.5k i'll go the next class up to a BMW
The problem we have is that BMW don't do practical hatchback. If I were to get a one series, I would probably go for the saloon version as the hatchback is so compromised.
In our Mk5 gti we can easily fit two bicycles inside the car (wheels off, of course) and luggage for 2 for a week, and yet the car is short and easy to park in London. BMW doesn't have a vehicle that does that job, which is a bit odd in my opinion.
So, we're holding out till the Mk7 comes along, then we'll decide. So far, the Mk5 (5 years old and still trouble free) is doing well, so just another year or so to go...
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In our Mk5 gti we can easily fit two bicycles inside the car (wheels off, of course) and luggage for 2 for a week, and yet the car is short and easy to park in London. BMW doesn't have a vehicle that does that job, which is a bit odd in my opinion.
So, we're holding out till the Mk7 comes along, then we'll decide. So far, the Mk5 (5 years old and still trouble free) is doing well, so just another year or so to go...
Added to that the GTI can hoon round a track or B-road whenever the driver fancies and your post pretty much sums up the appeal of the GTI. :smiley:
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It will be a mk7 gti for me, if over 26.5k i'll go the next class up to a BMW
The problem we have is that BMW don't do practical hatchback. If I were to get a one series, I would probably go for the saloon version as the hatchback is so compromised.
In our Mk5 gti we can easily fit two bicycles inside the car (wheels off, of course) and luggage for 2 for a week, and yet the car is short and easy to park in London. BMW doesn't have a vehicle that does that job, which is a bit odd in my opinion.
So, we're holding out till the Mk7 comes along, then we'll decide. So far, the Mk5 (5 years old and still trouble free) is doing well, so just another year or so to go...
Just shows how what a great allrounder the GTI is, i think it would be a new 3 series (i don't really need the practicallity of a hatch) if i were to go BMW but it doesn't look that great in the flesh if im honest, it looks like a real life bad photoshop job , maybe it will grow on me.