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Title: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: GUMBALL3000 on 03 June 2012, 18:16
I have just changed the clutch in my Mk3 1.8SE.. All back together.. started it up and its now making a noise as if the thrust bearing was broken, but it was fine before i replaced the clutch.. As soon as i apply preassure to the clutch it goes.. Drives fine etc, just this terrible rattle/knock noise on tick over.

Any help appreciated..

Thanks.
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: Screech16v on 03 June 2012, 18:29
Did you not replace the thrust bearing?
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: Luke1981 on 03 June 2012, 18:48
Did you not replace the thrust bearing?

I'm betting NO! :shocked:
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: GUMBALL3000 on 03 June 2012, 18:59
Well the kit didnt come with one, and there wasnt one on the input shaft.. where is the thrust bearing?
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: Gavv8 on 03 June 2012, 19:02
This is going to end in tears... :sad:
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: dubstar9 on 03 June 2012, 19:04
Ohhh dear!!!! :shocked:
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: liva2704 on 03 June 2012, 19:04
!!AAARRRGGGHHHH!!
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: dubstar9 on 03 June 2012, 19:12
This is the 3 piece clutch kit you should have been fitting to your 1.8, note - clutch cover, clutch plate and release bearing which fits on the input shaft and operated by the clutch lever through the bell housing.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-1-8-MK3-93-97-VECO-CLUTCH-KIT-/330660839766?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cfcec0156
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: GUMBALL3000 on 03 June 2012, 19:16
thats not the kit that went on or came off mine.. it had no thrust bearing on the input shaft.. it was a kit with a little round plate it a big metal ring that held the little round plate on
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: GUMBALL3000 on 03 June 2012, 19:18
this is the kit that came off and this is the kit that went on

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-Quality-2-Piece-Clutch-Kit-VW-Vento-Golf-Seat-Toledo-Ibiza-Cordoba-/330735095129?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AGolf|Plat_Gen%3AMK+III&hash=item4d01590d59
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: Bandit127 on 03 June 2012, 19:18
LOL - the release lever prongs are playing on the pressure plate springs like Liberace on the ivories...  :laugh:



Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: GUMBALL3000 on 03 June 2012, 19:27
Ok.. What could be causing this?? or has something been put on wrong?
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: Gavv8 on 03 June 2012, 19:28
I'd say, the lack of a functioning release bearing.
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: GUMBALL3000 on 03 June 2012, 19:38
right so it release bearing the same thing as the thrust bearing.. where is this on my model as its not on the input shaft.. It isthe new clutch thats made this problem worse
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: dubstar9 on 03 June 2012, 19:48
Hope this helps - http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_1.8_1995/p/car-parts/car-transmission/clutch-and-associated-parts/clutch-parts/?644440020&1&8059c4764ce62c108301119c87d084b6015f47df&000277
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: Bandit127 on 03 June 2012, 19:49
It is possible that the release bearing is still in there. It would have come away with the gearbox - attached to the release lever. You may not have noticed it because the rest of the clutch is on the engine side.

The symptoms you describe are classic for a knackered release bearing.

If the clutch is actually working (i.e. you can select first and drive away) it must still be in there. Liberace can thankfully stay in heaven...

Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: GUMBALL3000 on 03 June 2012, 19:54
Yeah it still drives fine.. gearbox is a little stiff though.. so could this just need a new release bearing not the whole clutch comin off again?? Is it the fact that i have fitted a new clutch and all it has done is amplified the problem?? will it still be ok to drive untill i can get it all apart again to replace the release bearing if i can find where it goes?
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: Gavv8 on 03 June 2012, 20:30
Not sure that's such a good idea.
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: Wayne on 03 June 2012, 20:33
will it still be ok to drive untill i can get it all apart again to replace the release bearing if i can find where it goes?

I would not be risking it.
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: GUMBALL3000 on 03 June 2012, 20:37
I've just taken it for a drive as the noise has gone and the clutch and gear box are working and the noise has gone and the gear box and clutch are working perfect again. But the oil light is flashing and beeping but it has oil n I have checked the sensors onto of the oil filter.
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: Gavv8 on 03 June 2012, 20:43
 :shocked:
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: Wayne on 03 June 2012, 20:45
But the oil light is flashing and beeping but it has oil n I have checked the sensors onto of the oil filter.

If all the plugs are ok on the filter housing check the sensor on the side of the cylinder head.
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: Bandit127 on 03 June 2012, 20:53
I've just taken it for a drive as the noise has gone and the clutch and gear box are working and the noise has gone and the gear box and clutch are working perfect again. But the oil light is flashing and beeping but it has oil n I have checked the sensors onto of the oil filter.

This is a new and different problem. Not due to the clutch itself - but maybe a wire got disturbed during the process.

Glad your clutch seems to be OK now but you do need to replace the release bearing ASAP. If it seizes it will just take your new pressure plate out if you are lucky. Personally I would use the car for only for necessary journeys from now and listen to the bearing for how it is doing. I would aim to replace it within days rather than weeks. Others will probably (and just as rightly) advise you not to drive it.

EDIT - consider the probability that it has gone quiet because it has now actually seized. That would change my advice to - do not drive it and get it done now...

 
Title: Re: HELP.. CLUTCH RELATED ISSUE!!
Post by: GUMBALL3000 on 04 June 2012, 00:09
Thanks for the advice people.. much appreciated.. My mate is going to have a look tomorrow morning, so hopefully all will be well.. Just got to try and sort out this bleeping and flashing oil light.. where about is the sensor on the cylinder head as i can not seem to find it.. Thanks.